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Let's try to update/fix the CTA "retired buses" roster:

Evanston Division 1-9, 21-25, 33-36, 40-64 should note returned to former numbers.

White 798s were in four distinct groups:

3401-3420 were wartime buses, delivered in ODT gray

3421-3495 were stick shift

3496-3597 were automatics

3598-3697 ordered by CTA

100-119, 130-131, 150-169 were only used for paratransit. 130 ex 3365. 150-169 were sent to.PACE after CTA paratransit service ended, used in regular service as 7150-7169.

Ex New Orseans buses 310-319 originally operated as 200-209

800-804, 3240-3244 were air conditioned, only ones in fleet before 1972 

Orions 4925-4927 never existed. PACE 2086,2105,2108 sold for scrap with those numbers

 

 

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On 11/10/2023 at 12:52 PM, andrethebusman said:

Let's try to update/fix the CTA "retired buses" roster:

Evanston Division 1-9, 21-25, 33-36, 40-64 should note returned to former numbers.

White 798s were in four distinct groups:

3401-3420 were wartime buses, delivered in ODT gray

3421-3495 were stick shift

3496-3597 were automatics

3598-3697 ordered by CTA

100-119, 130-131, 150-169 were only used for paratransit. 130 ex 3365. 150-169 were sent to.PACE after CTA paratransit service ended, used in regular service as 7150-7169.

Ex New Orseans buses 310-319 originally operated as 200-209

800-804, 3240-3244 were air conditioned, only ones in fleet before 1972 

Orions 4925-4927 never existed. PACE 2086,2105,2108 sold for scrap with those numbers

 

 

Nobody has been updating my CTA info either, im trying to correct the D40LF roster first with newly retired buses, and nobody has been pitching in. The last time someone pitched in was when I gave them information to the new buses in the 8350-8649 range, now nobody has been updating the D40LF’s. I’m going to see what’s going on, and see how I can help get this fixed out and I’ll also add your info to the roster once I figure out what is going on and get all this outdated mess fixed and back to date.

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12 hours ago, Erin Mishkin Jr. said:

Nobody has been updating my CTA info either, im trying to correct the D40LF roster first with newly retired buses, and nobody has been pitching in. The last time someone pitched in was when I gave them information to the new buses in the 8350-8649 range, now nobody has been updating the D40LF’s. I’m going to see what’s going on, and see how I can help get this fixed out and I’ll also add your info to the roster once I figure out what is going on and get all this outdated mess fixed and back to date.

You should try to become a wiki contributor and learn how to add information to the page yourself. It’s much easier that way. Nobody is doing this as a job, it’s a hobby. 

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On 11/16/2023 at 5:11 AM, ns8401 said:

You should try to become a wiki contributor and learn how to add information to the page yourself. It’s much easier that way. Nobody is doing this as a job, it’s a hobby. 

I have asked, nobody has ever responded. I do a lot of FOIA roster digging, could frequently add things if somebody would give me rights.

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Surprised this was missed, but nonetheless, a very bad situation.

If the final findings are as such, it'll be added to the list of Bombardier blunders.

https://www.wistv.com/2023/11/19/ntsb-investigators-focus-design-problem-with-braking-system-after-chicago-commuter-train-crash/?fbclid=IwAR0qS1jtN_9cB8WRWqoJm0AS1uaRwr7Vuqr98ZOKXM_hLsJsTXZ0X8A4_dg

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Boston's MBTA recently retired all of it's 2006 D40LF buses from their active fleet roster. Which means, Chicago's CTA is the last transit agency in America to actively have 2005-06 flyers but that could change thanks to funding from the bipartisain infrastructure bill and I hear like many other public transport systems across the nation, they wanna go electric.

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CTA will still have them for quite a while. They're planning on keeping and rehabbing ~430 of the D40LF fleet, and are likely going to keep the older buses as the 2008-9 models use carbon steel frames that are corroding much faster.

Edit: steel not fiber

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On 2/10/2024 at 12:36 PM, chasbo2 said:

Boston's MBTA recently retired all of it's 2006 D40LF buses from their active fleet roster. Which means, Chicago's CTA is the last transit agency in America to actively have 2005-06 flyers but that could change thanks to funding from the bipartisain infrastructure bill and I hear like many other public transport systems across the nation, they wanna go electric.

There is one more 2006-2007 D40LF bus that is in actual operation - 0610, which is operating out of Fellsway garage.  The remainder, save a few for work buses, three sent to Martha's Vineyard, and three possibly being used as museum buses, have been sent to the scrapper.

ETA: 0610 is now retired, and the 2006-2007 D40LFs are now officially retired from service.

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On 4/7/2024 at 4:29 PM, bjcolby0015 said:

There is one more 2006-2007 D40LF bus that is in actual operation - 0610, which is operating out of Fellsway garage.  The remainder, save a few for work buses, three sent to Martha's Vineyard, and three possibly being used as museum buses, have been sent to the scrapper.

ETA: 0610 is now retired, and the 2006-2007 D40LFs are now officially retired from service.

What is CTA getting as far as new buses go in the long-term? XE40s? XDE40s? XD40s even?

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CTA still has about 280 Nova LFS buses to enter service over the next year or so. 

The D/DE60LFR fleet is going through a renewal process right now.

The board approved a contract for 45 additional Proterra buses, no word on what is going on there. 

The 208 DE60LF buses are anticipated to be replaced with electric buses. Same for the 430 D40LF buses that will remain after all the Novas are in. These contracts haven't come up for bid yet.

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26 minutes ago, Tcmetro said:

CTA still has about 280 Nova LFS buses to enter service over the next year or so. 

The D/DE60LFR fleet is going through a renewal process right now.

The board approved a contract for 45 additional Proterra buses, no word on what is going on there. 

The 208 DE60LF buses are anticipated to be replaced with electric buses. Same for the 430 D40LF buses that will remain after all the Novas are in. These contracts haven't come up for bid yet.

How many New Flyer D40LFs are left in service currently?

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3 hours ago, New Yorker 2001 said:

How many New Flyer D40LFs are left in service currently?

Approximately 750-780. CTA has said that only 430 D40LF buses will be overhauled in the latest capital plan.

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Just yesterday, a bill was introduced to merge all transit systems into one entity. 

So my question is, if this were to pass, could we see D40LF and DE60LF buses in the chicago suburbs? 

I guess that would be kinda cool but it might take years before it actually happens

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Honestly the _LF units may possibly be retired by the time they ever got to that point. With bureaucracy and politics, the time from a bill being introduced to the point where former Pace and CTA fleets might be mixed together in certain cases or certain routes get reassigned from one system to the other could be several years. That said if this goes though, potentially you could see some former CTA equipment running in the suburbs or some ex-Pace in the city depending on how much reorganization takes place.

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17 hours ago, chasbo2 said:

Just yesterday, a bill was introduced to merge all transit systems into one entity. 

So my question is, if this were to pass, could we see D40LF and DE60LF buses in the chicago suburbs? 

I guess that would be kinda cool but it might take years before it actually happens

Hmm, kinda sounds similar to how the New York MTA was created. If the MMA actually comes into existence, that would mean that Metra would be the Commuter rail branch, CTA Subway would be the Subway branch, and it's bus operations would be merged with Pace to form the bus branch with more than 2600 units. It's combined bus fleet would make it the 4th largest in North America (after NY MTA/NICE, LACMTA, and NJT).

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On 5/1/2024 at 2:58 PM, chasbo2 said:

So my question is, if this were to pass, could we see D40LF and DE60LF buses in the chicago suburbs? 

Even if CTA bus operations are merged with Pace, I doubt there will be any major realignment of bus assignments within a combined fleet. The systems' existing garages, equipment, and mechanics are probably well-tailored to the fleets they already serve (particularly the southern Chicagoland Pace divisions that use CNG-powered ElDos), and I doubt agency leadership will make any major changes.

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On 6/11/2024 at 5:35 PM, Glennwood Road Ent. said:

Alert Alert

Unit 1331 was involved in front end accident.

There was a bus in a worse accident than this last year and has been repaired. The buses (1363 and 1588) that hit big poles are not coming back. Buses in car accidents like these are potentially coming back, 1185 has been in a worse accident and got a whole new front end and was back in service 2 months later. 1331 might be the same way as 1185 as if it gets a new front end it can come back. 

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Unit 8741 was spotted last week in Plattsburgh 

https://www.instagram.com/p/C_Mbm1aOJ53/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

And here's my 2 old photos

taken in April 1987

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This CTA bus is seen on an express bus line. Retired in 2004.

Operator: Chicago Transit Authority (#4221)

Model: M.A.N. SL-40102N (1985)

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April 1977

A CTA GM "fishbowl" bus is seen operating in Chicago in this 1977 photo.

Operator: Chicago Transit Authority (# 9169)

Model: General Motors Corp.

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