edison Posted November 1, 2012 Report Posted November 1, 2012 Orion's current website... http://www.orionbus.com/. Kind of like what Neoplan did with Neopart after they stopped manufacturing buses. But Neoplan did end up selling Neopart.
BBC 9197 Posted November 1, 2012 Author Report Posted November 1, 2012 Orion's current website... http://www.orionbus.com/. Kind of like what Neoplan did with Neopart after they stopped manufacturing buses. But Neoplan did end up selling Neopart. That's a great website. Nothing like going out in style! Thanks Daimler, for nothing!
RailBus63 Posted November 2, 2012 Report Posted November 2, 2012 That's a great website. Nothing like going out in style! Thanks Daimler, for nothing! Daimler doesn't care about Orion or its history.
vivablue5215 Posted November 2, 2012 Report Posted November 2, 2012 Is it just me or is the front image not showing?
Board Admin A. Wong Posted November 2, 2012 Board Admin Report Posted November 2, 2012 Is it just me or is the front image not showing?Not showing for me either. Lots of broken links too (parts brochure PDF).Out of commission, just like the company.
MAX BRT Posted November 2, 2012 Report Posted November 2, 2012 Out of commission, just like the company. Yup. I think that was Edison's point.
MAX BRT Posted November 14, 2012 Report Posted November 14, 2012 Centro will discuss "Orion Bus Order" at its board meeting on November 16: http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2012/11/centros_board_agenda_for_next.html
RailBus63 Posted November 15, 2012 Report Posted November 15, 2012 Centro will discuss "Orion Bus Order" at its board meeting on November 16: http://www.syracuse....a_for_next.html That is just a status update on the order - they've been discussing that at every recent CNYRTA board meeting. Most if not all of the Syracuse units are here (I spotted #1255 in service earlier this week). Not sure about the Utica and Rome units.
busdude.com Posted November 17, 2012 Report Posted November 17, 2012 I wonder if they will sell their parts department off to another company, like Flxible did with MCI, or some smaller manufacturer did to Blue Bird (i think it was Optima). it was kinda a shame, i was expecting to See Orion Badged Merceedes Citaro buses. I hope so, i still buy parts from Orion for my Orion 1.
Shaun Posted November 17, 2012 Report Posted November 17, 2012 Did anyone buy the jigs or license to build the buses under a new name?
RailBus63 Posted November 17, 2012 Report Posted November 17, 2012 I wonder if they will sell their parts department off to another company, like Flxible did with MCI, or some smaller manufacturer did to Blue Bird (i think it was Optima). it was kinda a shame, i was expecting to See Orion Badged Merceedes Citaro buses. I hope so, i still buy parts from Orion for my Orion 1. If Daimler doesn't keep the parts department, they will make good money selling it to someone else. Selling replacement parts is a very lucrative business - many manufacturers have a higher profit margin on parts than they do on the original purchase.
miklin Posted November 17, 2012 Report Posted November 17, 2012 speaking of Orion, did any of you guys see the movie Argo? In it the Americans who hid at the Cdn Embassy end up on an Orion II (remember this was supposed to be during the Carter administration) going from the terminal in Tehran to the aircraft. Wondering if this part of the film was shot in Canada??????
general682002 Posted November 17, 2012 Report Posted November 17, 2012 speaking of Orion, did any of you guys see the movie Argo? In it the Americans who hid at the Cdn Embassy end up on an Orion II (remember this was supposed to be during the Carter administration) going from the terminal in Tehran to the aircraft. Wondering if this part of the film was shot in Canada?????? Don't think so. I saw the movie too and it was filmed somewhere in the US. Interior is all blue and the fact is 100% wrong. The story happened in 1980, Orion II didn't produced their vehicle until 1984!
Board Admin A. Wong Posted December 2, 2012 Board Admin Report Posted December 2, 2012 Some 3D frame of the Orion VII NG:
general682002 Posted December 4, 2012 Report Posted December 4, 2012 Some 3D frame of the Orion VII NG: http://vimeo.com/47313817#at=145 NYCMTA does have their signs on one of their models, don't remember which one!
wchu94 Posted December 5, 2012 Report Posted December 5, 2012 NYCMTA does have their signs on one of their models, don't remember which one! New Flyer XD40 and selected Nova RTS-06 buses. There are Orion VII buses have Hanover displays... Nassau County Inter-County Express buses on the newest batch.
BBC 9197 Posted December 10, 2012 Author Report Posted December 10, 2012 Nice video, they should consider an investment in their HVAC, look at all those office fans!
Board Admin A. Wong Posted January 10, 2013 Board Admin Report Posted January 10, 2013 Does anyone know what countries (if any) the Orion II was exported to? I noted in this thread about my sightings of one in the movie Argo. I know it's a movie, but wondered if that part was legitimate or just theatrical.
smallspy Posted January 10, 2013 Report Posted January 10, 2013 Canada, U.S., Norway, Sweden and Poland are the only ones that I'm aware of. Dan
Mike Posted January 10, 2013 Report Posted January 10, 2013 Â I noted in this thread about my sightings of one in the movie Argo. I know it's a movie, but wondered if that part was legitimate or just theatrical.Argo was filmed mainly in various parts of US, plus a few scenes in Istnabul.
anonymous guy Posted February 14, 2013 Report Posted February 14, 2013 Reading up on the BAE HybriDrive system. So to oversimplify, are the coaches propelled primarily by electric motor with the diesel engines working to provide charge? How does it operate at higher speeds, is the coach primarily propelled by the diesel engine at that point? How is it more efficient than conventional Hybrid coaches?
smallspy Posted February 15, 2013 Report Posted February 15, 2013 Reading up on the BAE HybriDrive system. So to oversimplify, are the coaches propelled primarily by electric motor with the diesel engines working to provide charge? How does it operate at higher speeds, is the coach primarily propelled by the diesel engine at that point? How is it more efficient than conventional Hybrid coaches? Same concept as a diesel locomotive - the diesel engine spins at a constant rate and is coupled to an alternator, which (eventually) gets to an electric motor which outputs to the final drive. There is no mechanical connection between the diesel motor and the electric motor. In theory it is quite a bit more efficient than a mechanical drive, but despite the concept being about 100 years old it isn't nearly as refined as it is in large-scale systems, and still suffers from its quirks. Dan
anonymous guy Posted February 15, 2013 Report Posted February 15, 2013 Thanks for the explanation. Hope to see other agencies deploy the technology with Orion out of the picture.
tomsbuspage Posted February 17, 2013 Report Posted February 17, 2013 How does it operate at higher speeds, is the coach primarily propelled by the diesel engine at that point? How is it more efficient than conventional Hybrid coaches? OC Transpo purchased 178 Orion VII NG hybrids with the BAE HybriDrive hoping to save a significant amount of fuel, but after operating the buses in BRT and expressway service found the results to be so disappointing that OC has no plans to buy any more hybrids for the foreseeable future. As far as most of the posts here indicate, series hybrids save the most fuel in stop-and-go service while parallel hybrids do better saving fuel at higher speeds.
ABQ RIDE Posted February 17, 2013 Report Posted February 17, 2013 OC Transpo purchased 178 Orion VII NG hybrids with the BAE HybriDrive hoping to save a significant amount of fuel, but after operating the buses in BRT and expressway service found the results to be so disappointing that OC has no plans to buy any more hybrids for the foreseeable future. As far as most of the posts here indicate, series hybrids save the most fuel in stop-and-go service while parallel hybrids do better saving fuel at higher speeds. I agree, a parallel hybrid would have been more appropriate in this case.
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