BBC 9197 Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 Does anyone know when Orion started offering a stainless steel frame? Was it an option for awhile or was all production switched to stainless only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiExpress Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 Does anyone know when Orion started offering a stainless steel frame? Was it an option for awhile or was all production switched to stainless only? (Was there supposed to be more questions given the thread byline?) The Orion V became available with a stainless steel frame around late 1999. The Orion VII had a standard stainless steel frame for a little while into production, and carbon steel became an option after a while and still is. To go even further, much of the Orion II body was constructed of stainless steel, but not all of it so I am not sure if that counts towards the answer you are looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallspy Posted July 3, 2010 Report Share Posted July 3, 2010 The Orion V became available with a stainless steel frame around late 1999. More specifically, GO's first order for Orion Vs - both transit and suburbans - were the first vehicles delivered with stainless steel frames. It seems that they were only offered once GO signed up for them. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBC 9197 Posted July 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2010 (Was there supposed to be more questions given the thread byline?)The Orion V became available with a stainless steel frame around late 1999. The Orion VII had a standard stainless steel frame for a little while into production, and carbon steel became an option after a while and still is. To go even further, much of the Orion II body was constructed of stainless steel, but not all of it so I am not sure if that counts towards the answer you are looking for. It's an open forum for discussing Orion in the good old days, from I to VI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBC 9197 Posted July 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 Does anyone have any info about the Orion IV that was sold to NYC for their emergency medical service? It would be the only IV to be sold to anyone other than the Niagara Parks Commission (NPC). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiExpress Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 Does anyone have any info about the Orion IV that was sold to NYC for their emergency medical service? It would be the only IV to be sold to anyone other than the Niagara Parks Commission (NPC). What exactly? Serial number is 2B1484C74H5001567, Built 1987... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBC 9197 Posted July 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Any photos or info about it? Is it still around or was it sold or scraped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallspy Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 From this thread: http://www.cptdb.ca/index.php?showtopic=8037&hl=Orion4 http://www.flickr.com/photos/av8pix/257530...ddedcomment=1#/ Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsbuspage Posted November 21, 2010 Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 Does anyone have a list of transit systems with Orion II buses still in service? So far I've seen the following in the last year or two: TTC in Toronto (saw one this past Thursday!) Cornwall [ON] Transit RTS in Rochester NY, in paratransit service EMTA in Erie PA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris H Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 Does anyone have a list of transit systems with Orion II buses still in service? So far I've seen the following in the last year or two:TTC in Toronto (saw one this past Thursday!) Cornwall [ON] Transit RTS in Rochester NY, in paratransit service EMTA in Erie PA Others I can add are: Clinton MTA in Clinton, IA Cambus - Iowa City, IA OTS - Owensboro, KY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VIII Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 Blue Water Area Transit of Port Huron, MI, as well as Saginaw STARS of Saginaw, MI and Bay City Metro of Bay City, MI likely all still have at least some of their units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busfreak99 Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 Others I can add are:Clinton MTA in Clinton, IA Cambus - Iowa City, IA OTS - Owensboro, KY Waterloo Iowa Marshalltown Iowa Sioux City Iowa has 2 left. James Roach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCT-3122-D800-10240 Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 (edited) UTA - Salt Lake City dump all their Orion II's already? Edited November 22, 2010 by MBTA9244-9640b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiExpress Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 Based on Orion's production records These agencies should still have some (built 2000 and after) Fort Worth Transit Authorioty (Fort Worth TX) Butler County Transit Authority (Butler PA) Area Transit Authority of North Central Pennsylvania (Johnsonburg PA) Uppsala Lokaltrafik (Sweden) Laguna Hills Transit (Laguna Hills CA) Rochester Service (Rochester MN) Mankato Authority of Urban Transportation (Mankato MN) Butte-Silver Bow Transit (Butte MT) Cleveland RTA (Cleveland OH) - Not sure about these ones, if they still use them in paratransit or if it's another agency in the Cleveland area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
323 Surrey Ctrl Stn Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 UTA - Salt Lake City dump all their Orion II's already? I was just thinking of them, they did buy all the Ex. BC Transit units in the late 1990's. Chris Cassidy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom1122 Posted December 5, 2010 Report Share Posted December 5, 2010 With the Orion 1 becoming rare, has anyone made an effort to preserve an Orion 1? Plently of fishbowls are saved and a few D800s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pccstreetcar4549 Posted December 5, 2010 Report Share Posted December 5, 2010 With the Orion 1 becoming rare, has anyone made an effort to preserve an Orion 1? Plently of fishbowls are saved and a few D800s. didnt OC tranpso preserve one of theirs? i doubt orion 1s (whatever is still running) would get preseved they werent the greatest buses ever made, fishbowl is one thing, they were an interesting design, but the orion 1 i dont know, its like orion 5s being preseved, that wont happen either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Aquarius Posted December 5, 2010 Report Share Posted December 5, 2010 With the Orion 1 becoming rare, has anyone made an effort to preserve an Orion 1? Plently of fishbowls are saved and a few D800s. Chicagoland Museum has preserved an Orion I (ex-PACE) as has Commonwealth Coach and Trolley (Ex-DASH). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailBus63 Posted December 5, 2010 Report Share Posted December 5, 2010 didnt OC tranpso preserve one of theirs? i doubt orion 1s (whatever is still running) would get preseved they werent the greatest buses ever made, fishbowl is one thing, they were an interesting design, but the orion 1 i dont know, its like orion 5s being preseved, that wont happen either Incorrect - the New York City Transit Authority has already preserved their first Orion V, #101. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCT-3122-D800-10240 Posted December 5, 2010 Report Share Posted December 5, 2010 With the Orion 1 becoming rare, has anyone made an effort to preserve an Orion 1? Plently of fishbowls are saved and a few D800s. One 1980 Orion 01.501 is currently preserved by the MTHA in Winnipeg, Manitoba. It does have some fairly severe rusting issues and it may be determained that it is not worth being saved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pccstreetcar4549 Posted December 5, 2010 Report Share Posted December 5, 2010 Incorrect - the New York City Transit Authority has already preserved their first Orion V, #101. didnt know that, the first orion 5 ever made, or one of the first was sold off as a training bus for missauga fire dept sadly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general682002 Posted December 5, 2010 Report Share Posted December 5, 2010 didnt know that, the first orion 5 ever made, or one of the first was sold off as a training bus for missauga fire dept sadly The first Orion V for MTA in 1993. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
306 Carlton Posted December 6, 2010 Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 didnt OC tranpso preserve one of theirs? i doubt orion 1s (whatever is still running) would get preseved they werent the greatest buses ever made, fishbowl is one thing, they were an interesting design, but the orion 1 i dont know, its like orion 5s being preseved, that wont happen either That Orion 1 for OC has long been scrapped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. McConnell Posted December 6, 2010 Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 Incorrect - the New York City Transit Authority has already preserved their first Orion V, #101. Aren't they preserving #317, the first Orion V CNG, as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallspy Posted December 6, 2010 Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 didnt OC tranpso preserve one of theirs? i doubt orion 1s (whatever is still running) would get preseved they werent the greatest buses ever made, fishbowl is one thing, they were an interesting design, but the orion 1 i dont know, its like orion 5s being preseved, that wont happen either Saving vehicles, or acquiring a historic fleet, has nothing to do with saving the "best" vehicles, or interesting designs. I've argued for a while that if a museum is going to save a New Look that they also need to save some of their contemporaries - a D700 or D800, Gillig Phantom, Flexble New Look, Orion I, etc. - because only then can you really compare and contrast the difference between the different vehicles, and why one agency would order one type and another would order a different one. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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