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Found this slide on ebay, thought it was interesting. The original orion i prototype built in 1976, and sold to G&G tours. According to this wiki page, this was the first bus ever built by or

I'm not sure who even owns the rights to the brand and name, Daimler AG? NFI? I doubt the name would return after 6 years of rest, and it's even less likely the VII3G+E would be revived and developed.

I spotted this slide for sale on eBay by googilycub.  I've seen Thomas-branded SLF235 buses and Dennis Dart buses, but I've never seen one of these buses with Orion branding before. 😮 

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Does anyone know when Orion started offering a stainless steel frame? Was it an option for awhile or was all production switched to stainless only?

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The Orion V became available with a stainless steel frame around late 1999.

The Orion VII had a standard stainless steel frame for a little while into production, and carbon steel became an option after a while and still is.

To go even further, much of the Orion II body was constructed of stainless steel, but not all of it so I am not sure if that counts towards the answer you are looking for.

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The Orion V became available with a stainless steel frame around late 1999.

More specifically, GO's first order for Orion Vs - both transit and suburbans - were the first vehicles delivered with stainless steel frames. It seems that they were only offered once GO signed up for them.

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(Was there supposed to be more questions given the thread byline?)

The Orion V became available with a stainless steel frame around late 1999.

The Orion VII had a standard stainless steel frame for a little while into production, and carbon steel became an option after a while and still is.

To go even further, much of the Orion II body was constructed of stainless steel, but not all of it so I am not sure if that counts towards the answer you are looking for.

It's an open forum for discussing Orion in the good old days, from I to VI.

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Does anyone have any info about the Orion IV that was sold to NYC for their emergency medical service? It would be the only IV to be sold to anyone other than the Niagara Parks Commission (NPC).

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Does anyone have any info about the Orion IV that was sold to NYC for their emergency medical service? It would be the only IV to be sold to anyone other than the Niagara Parks Commission (NPC).

What exactly? Serial number is 2B1484C74H5001567, Built 1987...:)

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Does anyone have a list of transit systems with Orion II buses still in service? So far I've seen the following in the last year or two:

TTC in Toronto (saw one this past Thursday!)

Cornwall [ON] Transit

RTS in Rochester NY, in paratransit service

EMTA in Erie PA

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Does anyone have a list of transit systems with Orion II buses still in service? So far I've seen the following in the last year or two:

TTC in Toronto (saw one this past Thursday!)

Cornwall [ON] Transit

RTS in Rochester NY, in paratransit service

EMTA in Erie PA

Others I can add are:

Clinton MTA in Clinton, IA

Cambus - Iowa City, IA

OTS - Owensboro, KY

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Based on Orion's production records These agencies should still have some (built 2000 and after)

Fort Worth Transit Authorioty (Fort Worth TX)

Butler County Transit Authority (Butler PA)

Area Transit Authority of North Central Pennsylvania (Johnsonburg PA)

Uppsala Lokaltrafik (Sweden)

Laguna Hills Transit (Laguna Hills CA)

Rochester Service (Rochester MN)

Mankato Authority of Urban Transportation (Mankato MN)

Butte-Silver Bow Transit (Butte MT)

Cleveland RTA (Cleveland OH) - Not sure about these ones, if they still use them in paratransit or if it's another agency in the Cleveland area

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With the Orion 1 becoming rare, has anyone made an effort to preserve an Orion 1? Plently of fishbowls are saved and a few D800s.

didnt OC tranpso preserve one of theirs? i doubt orion 1s (whatever is still running) would get preseved they werent the greatest buses ever made, fishbowl is one thing, they were an interesting design, but the orion 1 i dont know, its like orion 5s being preseved, that wont happen either

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With the Orion 1 becoming rare, has anyone made an effort to preserve an Orion 1? Plently of fishbowls are saved and a few D800s.

Chicagoland Museum has preserved an Orion I (ex-PACE) as has Commonwealth Coach and Trolley (Ex-DASH).

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didnt OC tranpso preserve one of theirs? i doubt orion 1s (whatever is still running) would get preseved they werent the greatest buses ever made, fishbowl is one thing, they were an interesting design, but the orion 1 i dont know, its like orion 5s being preseved, that wont happen either

Incorrect - the New York City Transit Authority has already preserved their first Orion V, #101.

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didnt OC tranpso preserve one of theirs? i doubt orion 1s (whatever is still running) would get preseved they werent the greatest buses ever made, fishbowl is one thing, they were an interesting design, but the orion 1 i dont know, its like orion 5s being preseved, that wont happen either

That Orion 1 for OC has long been scrapped.

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didnt OC tranpso preserve one of theirs? i doubt orion 1s (whatever is still running) would get preseved they werent the greatest buses ever made, fishbowl is one thing, they were an interesting design, but the orion 1 i dont know, its like orion 5s being preseved, that wont happen either

Saving vehicles, or acquiring a historic fleet, has nothing to do with saving the "best" vehicles, or interesting designs.

I've argued for a while that if a museum is going to save a New Look that they also need to save some of their contemporaries - a D700 or D800, Gillig Phantom, Flexble New Look, Orion I, etc. - because only then can you really compare and contrast the difference between the different vehicles, and why one agency would order one type and another would order a different one.

Dan

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