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Don't get me wrong, it's a good looking bus but Rims are missing which ake feel like its incomplete and why not center the M and remove the "Metro" from the front? And shouldn't the word "Local" look biger than that? I think Metro just doesn't want contracted buses to look nice lol.

Well looks fine to me given that it's a 31-foot bus, if anything that paint scheme looks perfect on it to me

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Does anyone know if LACMTA is currently getting another delivery of NABI Metro45Cs? I thought I saw one with a fleet # in the mid 8400s the other day? On the Wiki site it says 8401 and up are currently being delivered. BTW, someone keeps editing the fact that the Metro45Cs go from 8100-8399 instead of 8400. Unit 8400 already is on the road and has been since the last delivery. I hope LACTMA gets more of the hybrid 42BRTs sooner than later. Those are slick looking buses!

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Does anyone know if LACMTA is currently getting another delivery of NABI Metro45Cs? I thought I saw one with a fleet # in the mid 8400s the other day? On the Wiki site it says 8401 and up are currently being delivered. BTW, someone keeps editing the fact that the Metro45Cs go from 8100-8399 instead of 8400. Unit 8400 already is on the road and has been since the last delivery.

8400 might be part of the second Metro 45C order, not the first. I believe the initial Metro 45C order was for 300 buses, which covers everything between 8100 and 8399. 8400 and up are probably part of a separate order.

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Does anyone know if LACMTA is currently getting another delivery of NABI Metro45Cs? I thought I saw one with a fleet # in the mid 8400s the other day? On the Wiki site it says 8401 and up are currently being delivered. BTW, someone keeps editing the fact that the Metro45Cs go from 8100-8399 instead of 8400. Unit 8400 already is on the road and has been since the last delivery. I hope LACTMA gets more of the hybrid 42BRTs sooner than later. Those are slick looking buses!

I've seen 8400 and 8402 in service on the Silver Line already...

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Do these buses also have Digital Recorders annunciators? Digital Records annunciators are often bundled with TwinVision signs since they are owned by the same company, even though they can also interface to Luminator and Vultron signs.

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The 8400 runs out of Div 18, It's part of those out of number sequence metro 45-C's(8360-840?) which came out at the end of last year. Div 15 got 8300 a few weeks ago and the date of manufacture is March 2010. The last 70 metro45-C in the original sequence have a debossed Metro logo. I've also been noticing that Metro has been installing these new smartcam's in other divisions.

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I don't think Metro uses Digital Recorder on thier buses. They use someone else for AVL and usually announcements are tied into that.

Actually, I know some of the Neoplans use Digital Recorders. A few also use Clever Devices. However, it seems that most of the newer buses use Orbital. However, the reason why I am curious about the new NABI buses with the TwinVision signs is because Digital Recorders annuciators are often bundled with TwinVision signs as they are owned by the same company. Since LACMTA already has some experience with Digital Recorders, I wouldn't be surprised if these buses have it.

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Ah okay, I thought they were standardized. Well, it'd make sense if these were different because the announcement systems on the new 45C's do act differently and seem to screw up a lot as well (basically not being sure where it is).

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Ah okay, I thought they were standardized. Well, it'd make sense if these were different because the announcement systems on the new 45C's do act differently and seem to screw up a lot as well (basically not being sure where it is).

The ones on the new 45Cs are Orbital.

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For my grand finale and the reason for this trip…Welcome to the Los Angeles County Metropolitan Transit Authority, the second largest transit system in the United States. For those who don’t know, LACMTA also has the “Nation’s Largest Clean-Air Fleet” comprised of Neoplan AN440 CNG Buses, NABI 40LFWs, New Flyer C40HF & C40LFs as well as NABI 60BRT artics and assorted other equipment mostly operated by contractors. LACMTA also has five rail lines, several dozen “rapid” lines, three BRT lines & a few scattered limited services.

To start, here is NABI 40LFW 7873 arriving at Patsaouras Transit Plaza next to Union Station for the Dodger Stadium Express:

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5074, one of 223 New Flyer C40HFs purchased by MTA in 1999-2000 is seen here on 5th & Grand on Line 16 to famous Cedars-Sinai Hospital. All active C40HFs have been repowered to ISL-G engines.

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Accompanying this order was 223 New Flyer C40LFs in 2001. Here is 5335 assigned to Line 55 re-painted and repowered:

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7375 still in the “Yellow Jacket” scheme also on 5th assigned to Line 55:

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11021, one of 67 Orion VI Diesel buses owned by MTA and run by contractors is seen at the Long Beach Transit Mall on Line 232 that winds between Long Beach and LAX City Bus Center:

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Because of MTA’s method of branding services (Local, Rapid, Express) sometimes these buses will end up on odd lines like in the case of 8392, a local branded bus operating on the Sliver line, a BRT style line that uses several buses painted in a special sliver scheme but not today:

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6546, part of the second batch of Neoplan AN440s photographed in Black & White has a odd distinction of having white front numbers and black rear numbers:

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Of the 28 or so Rapid lines, none are busiest than Line 720, running from Santa Monica through Downtown LA to Commerce. Here is NABI 60-BRT #9309 in Downtown on a Sunday Afternoon:

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NABI being the preferred model in LA, MTA has almost every low floor version manufactured by the company included 100 45 foot Compobuses purchased in 2004 painted in the Metro Rapid Livery. These buses operate on Rapid Lines 705, 711, 715, 734, 745, 750, 780, and 794. Here is NABI 45C #8045 at Warner Center on Line 750, across from the end of the Orange Line:

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8400, the first of 300 NABI 45C Compobuses is seen in Downtown LA operating on the Sliver Line:

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With the delivery of the 8400s, this will allow for the rest of the first generation Neoplan AN440s to be retired. Here is 4749 on borrowed time at North Hollywood Red Line Station on Line 224:

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In 2005, MTA ordered their first Articulated buses since SCRTD purchased MAN artics in 1978. Ironically the number currently used mirrors the MANs numbers (9200-9229). These 9200s are used only on the Orange Line BRT service from North Hollywood to Warner Center. Here is 9208 at Warner Center:

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NABI 40LFW #7168 on Line 577 Express: Detroit Diesel Series 50G/Allison B400R:

New Flyer C40LF #5390 on Line 450 Express: Detroit Diesel Series 50G/Allison B400R:

Now retired Neoplan AN440 #4666 on Line 224: Cummins L10-G/Allison B400R:

NABI 45C Compo bus #8228 on Line 150: Cummins ISL-G/Allison B400R:

NABI 45C #8045 on Line 750 Rapid:

NABI 42 BRT Gasoline Electric #4203 on Line 485: Ford Trition V10/ISE Thundervolt:

Orion VII #11031 on Line 130: Detroit Diesel Series 50/Allison B400R:

NABI 60BRT #9208 on the Orange Line: Cummins L-Gas Plus/Allison B500R:

Hear the engines roar with this video:

My Music Video:

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Nice photos.

The Silver Line actually doesn't use silver buses -- most of its fleet is composed of orange NABI Metro 45Cs, with the occasional Neoplan or NABI 40-LFW filling in as well. The silver Metro 45Cs operate only on rush hour express line 910.

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Nice photos.

The Silver Line actually doesn't use silver buses -- most of its fleet is composed of orange NABI Metro 45Cs, with the occasional Neoplan or NABI 40-LFW filling in as well. The silver Metro 45Cs operate only on rush hour express line 910.

910 is the Silver Line, I think you're thinking of 902

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Here's some of my own shots, taken at the corner of 5th and Olive in Downtown LA:

(Edit: I retouched my photos and reattached them to this post, plus I threw in an extra shot)

Gas Electric Hybrid NABI 42-BRT #4205 on Express Line 485

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NABI 45C-Metro #8387 on the Silver Line

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Plus here's a shot I took while I was on the 10 Freeway next to the Division 9 Yard

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Here's some of my own shots, taken at the corner of 5th and Olive in Downtown LA:

(Edit: I retouched my photos and reattached them to this post, plus I threw in an extra shot)

Gas Electric Hybrid NABI 42-BRT #4205 on Express Line 485

Plus here's a shot I took while I was on the 10 Freeway next to the Division 9 Yard

I like those NABI Metro 45C with Cummins ISL-G because they sound quieter and awesome.

Also the first few gasoline-electric hybrids that they acquired, was it used for evaluation before ordering more? Looks like they're introducing another new technology propulsion to its fleet.

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Did LACMTA make changes to their bus service on July 1st along with the fare increase?

I ask this because yesterday in the early evening I noticed that all of the NABI 60 ft buses were missing from line 4. Instead, MTA was using a mix of neoplans, 40 and 45 ft NABIs. The rapid line 704 was still operating with the 60 ft NABIs. Another thing I noticed is that a couple of the buses operating on line 4 were out of division 6 (at least that's what was on the window) and line 4 usually only operates out of division 10.

Additionally, line 333 was running 60 Ft NABI in the metro local livery (the 9400s), but now that line 333 became rapid 733, NABI 60 ft in rapid livery are being used (9300s).

All of this begs of one question: Where did all of the 9400s go? Are they just sitting at division 10 not in use or have they been transferred elsewhere? Or will some of them become red rapid buses?

I find it interesting that they pulled all the 60 footers off line 4 since that is usually a busy route (in fact, it's busier than the 704 I think, which is still using the 60 footers).

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Did LACMTA make changes to their bus service on July 1st along with the fare increase?

I ask this because yesterday in the early evening I noticed that all of the NABI 60 ft buses were missing from line 4. Instead, MTA was using a mix of neoplans, 40 and 45 ft NABIs. The rapid line 704 was still operating with the 60 ft NABIs. Another thing I noticed is that a couple of the buses operating on line 4 were out of division 6 (at least that's what was on the window) and line 4 usually only operates out of division 10.

Additionally, line 333 was running 60 Ft NABI in the metro local livery (the 9400s), but now that line 333 became rapid 733, NABI 60 ft in rapid livery are being used (9300s).

All of this begs of one question: Where did all of the 9400s go? Are they just sitting at division 10 not in use or have they been transferred elsewhere? Or will some of them become red rapid buses?

I find it interesting that they pulled all the 60 footers off line 4 since that is usually a busy route (in fact, it's busier than the 704 I think, which is still using the 60 footers).

Service changes happened on June 27th, I imagine a lot of shifting happened. Part of Art Leahy's plan for the agency is to get rid of divisions not helping each other run routes, so it may be that multiple divisions run routes now.

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Did LACMTA make changes to their bus service on July 1st along with the fare increase?

I ask this because yesterday in the early evening I noticed that all of the NABI 60 ft buses were missing from line 4. Instead, MTA was using a mix of neoplans, 40 and 45 ft NABIs. The rapid line 704 was still operating with the 60 ft NABIs. Another thing I noticed is that a couple of the buses operating on line 4 were out of division 6 (at least that's what was on the window) and line 4 usually only operates out of division 10.

Additionally, line 333 was running 60 Ft NABI in the metro local livery (the 9400s), but now that line 333 became rapid 733, NABI 60 ft in rapid livery are being used (9300s).

All of this begs of one question: Where did all of the 9400s go? Are they just sitting at division 10 not in use or have they been transferred elsewhere? Or will some of them become red rapid buses?

I find it interesting that they pulled all the 60 footers off line 4 since that is usually a busy route (in fact, it's busier than the 704 I think, which is still using the 60 footers).

Well, from my observations lately:

Line 30 has now stopped using the Neoplans

Line 66 is now using the 9400-Series NABI 60-BRT's

Line 81 has stopped using the NABI 40-LFW's

Line 252 has started to exclusively use the Neoplans

Line 439 has started to exclusively use the NABI 45C-Metro's in the lower 8300 Series

Line 751 has now stopped using the NABI 45C-LFW's

On a side note, the early generation of Breda A865's used on the Red and Purple Lines are now beginning to be rehabbed, the now feature new floors and new seat inserts...

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