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On ‎2018‎-‎02‎-‎10 at 10:43 AM, Orion V said:

KMB Route 872. Volvo Super Olypmian Wright Explorer.

To be specific, the vehicle series number is AVW78 (entered service in 2004-5) and its licence plate is LX9991.  Those who can read Chinese might want to check out the specs: http://www.buscess.com/chassis/view/LX9991/cp1

The crash took place on a rather straight section of Tai Po Road right besides Tai Po Kau Park, in a place that has seen its fair share of accidents. http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/2132874/passengers-claim-bus-driver-was-throwing-tantrum

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Another bus accident, now in Hong Kong Island: "Seven hurt in collision between a bus and a tram" http://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/component/k2/1381195-20180216.htm

 

Update on KMB:

Part-time driver in fatal Hong Kong bus crash did not drive route in training, KMB admits: https://www.hongkongfp.com/2018/02/16/part-time-driver-fatal-hong-kong-bus-crash-not-drive-route-training-kmb-admits/

KMB is now stopped offering shifts to part-time drivers after the deadly accident: http://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/component/k2/1381070-20180215.htm

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7 hours ago, Orion V said:

I know MTR is doing signal upgrades on some of the older lines to something similar to ATO (like TTC) so I'm wondering how do they do it without major closures like what TTC is doing almost every weekend?

perhaps different company doing the installation.  HOng Kong has Octopus card.  Their system works great and the Presto on the other hand.....

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Hong Kong can certainly look to nearby Singapore. It too is upgrading its oldest MRT lines from Westinghouse fixed-block to Thales SelTrac moving-block CBTC. Since SG has more English-speaking railfans than HK does, there are a bunch of excellent resources by which to keep informed, such as this one.

https://mothership.sg/2017/07/the-very-long-story-behind-why-there-have-been-will-still-be-so-many-delays-on-the-north-south-line/

The takeaway is that Thales does all its work for three hours every night. It is not hard to infer that they are doing the same to the MTR as they do to the MRT.

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17 hours ago, leylandvictory2 said:

perhaps different company doing the installation.  HOng Kong has Octopus card.  Their system works great and the Presto on the other hand.....

To be fair, the Octopus has 2 decades of history so all the clinks have been worked out.

 

17 hours ago, Transit geek said:

Hong Kong can certainly look to nearby Singapore. It too is upgrading its oldest MRT lines from Westinghouse fixed-block to Thales SelTrac moving-block CBTC. Since SG has more English-speaking railfans than HK does, there are a bunch of excellent resources by which to keep informed, such as this one.

https://mothership.sg/2017/07/the-very-long-story-behind-why-there-have-been-will-still-be-so-many-delays-on-the-north-south-line/

The takeaway is that Thales does all its work for three hours every night. It is not hard to infer that they are doing the same to the MTR as they do to the MRT.

So why does TTC have to close weekends to do the ATO when the others don't have to?

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On 2/25/2018 at 12:27 PM, Orion V said:

To be fair, the Octopus has 2 decades of history so all the clinks have been worked out.

 

So why does TTC have to close weekends to do the ATO when the others don't have to?

MTR for starters has a long down time than the TTC, that might give them a bit more time to work with

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Just heard from friends in HK that the oldest 3 MTR (ex-KCR lines excluded) lines have signal problems resulted in major delays of up to 40min.

Looks like age is catching up to one of the world most reliably heavy rail system! lol

The affected lines are red, green and blue which corresponds to the 3 oldest (original) MTR lines which probably shares similar technology and different than the other newer lines.

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Besides the B8L Gemini 3s, KMB got 2 more new models for their DD fleet.

B8L MCV and B9TL Gemilang.

Didn't know they still ordered B9TLs now that its replacement, the B8Ls are in full production.

http://www.orientalmodelbuses.co.uk/Xtra/HK-KMB-B8L-3.htm

http://www.orientalmodelbuses.co.uk/Xtra/HK-KMB-Volvo-Gemilang.htm

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Right now Hong Kong has a peak hour route that needs to take almost 2 hours for the entire trip and is unreasonably meandering.
The route is called E43 (Fanling (Wah Ming) - Tung Chung Development Pier)

I tried each direction once - and it's an awful experience.

In addition to its meandering routing (the fastest way should be going through Tai Lam Tunnel but instead, this route goes through Tolo Highway and Tsing Sha Highway), as well as frequent traffic congestion enroute during peak hours, that time I took 2hrs and 4 minutes for me to get from Fanling to Tung Chung. Even from the last stop in Northern District to Lantau Link Bus Interchange itself took over 90mins.

For the return trip, sometimes it can take nearly 150mins for the entire trip as it has to observe Tsing Yi Island where some stops are located there.

Such thing has already been posted on local news media and are now being complained by residents of Northern District.

Just gonna search "LWB E43" on Youtube - you'll gonna find some video footages of this route lasting for more than 2 or even 2.5hrs for the entire trip. (Link: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=LWB+E43 )

If you really wanna try this when you go to HK, remember to go to a toilet before boarding, and minimize the frequency of water-drinking onboard.

Total kind of poor route planning by the Transport Department (especially there're only about 10 passengers on each departure).

Attached is the route map of E43 for your reference.

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