Orion6025 Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 4 hours ago, doglover44 said: 2052 So all 2019s and the first 2 2020s are in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doglover44 Posted March 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 17 hours ago, Orion6025 said: So all 2019s and the first 2 2020s are in? Yes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doglover44 Posted March 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2020 On 3/11/2020 at 8:05 PM, Daytonbuses said: Thanks for the update. I've seen 1964 in revenue service. What are the fleet numbers of the Skodas still left in the barn? What happened to the others? The 5 Skodas left inside are 9802 9803 9809 9834 and 9835 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doglover44 Posted April 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 4 Skodas are left in the barn 9803 left yesterday on a truck going back to Europe 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doglover44 Posted May 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2020 9809 is headed to Illinois to the Illinois Railway Museum 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doglover44 Posted May 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 9803 went to a port in SC to go to Europe 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doglover44 Posted May 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 Update 5-28-2020 Next Gen 1951-1969 are in service 1970-2059 are on the property that's 31 already Skoda 9802 9834 and 9835 are still in the barn and some in another building across the street 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daytonbuses Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 14 hours ago, doglover44 said: Update 5-28-2020 Next Gen 1951-1969 are in service 1970-2059 are on the property that's 31 already Skoda 9802 9834 and 9835 are still in the barn and some in another building across the street That's good to hear that 31 Kiepe trolleybuses are on property! Thanks for keeping us up to date on what Skodas are left. I heard 9845 is in the building across the street. If I have this down correctly 9813, 9814, 9839, & 9844 should still be around. Unless they were sent off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doglover44 Posted June 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2020 On 5/29/2020 at 2:40 PM, Daytonbuses said: That's good to hear that 31 Kiepe trolleybuses are on property! Thanks for keeping us up to date on what Skodas are left. I heard 9845 is in the building across the street. If I have this down correctly 9813, 9814, 9839, & 9844 should still be around. Unless they were sent off. There in the coke building with 9845 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doglover44 Posted June 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 9803 made it safely to its destination to Europe ! 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doglover44 Posted June 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2020 Update 6-24-2020 Next Gen 1951-1971 are in service 1951-2060 are on the property only 10 more left ! Skoda 9802 9834 and 9835 are still in the barn and some in another building across the street 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doglover44 Posted July 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2020 Update 7-24-2020 Next Gen 1951-2052 are in service 1951-2063 are on the property only 8 more left ! Skoda 9802 9834 and 9835 are still in the barn and some in another building across the street 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin607 Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 I read somewhere that there may be an option to increase to up to 75 NexGen. Is this true and, if so, is it likely given the Covid 19 crisis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doglover44 Posted July 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2020 On 7/26/2020 at 2:20 PM, martin607 said: I read somewhere that there may be an option to increase to up to 75 NexGen. Is this true and, if so, is it likely given the Covid 19 crisis? Im not sure about that haven't heard anything. Where did you read it at ? Update 7/29/20 we got new 35 footers 2031-2037 I think 2035 is broke down in WY on the way from the factory 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin607 Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 On 7/29/2020 at 4:42 PM, doglover44 said: Im not sure about that haven't heard anything. Where did you read it at ? Sorry, I can't track it down at the moment. But presumably if there are any options available, they would need to be exercised fairly soon before the current production run ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doglover44 Posted August 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 On 8/1/2020 at 7:37 AM, martin607 said: Sorry, I can't track it down at the moment. But presumably if there are any options available, they would need to be exercised fairly soon before the current production run ends. What you mean ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doglover44 Posted August 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 Update 8-24-2020 Next Gen 1951-2056 are in service 1951-2065 are on the property Skoda 9802 9834 and 9835 are the only ones left. 9813 9814 9839 9844 9845 got stripped and sent for scrap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etbetb Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 The main Wiki page needs to be changed. There is no Kiepe 1972. The 1950 series Kiepe buses are 1951-1971. The 2050 Kiepe buses are 2051-2070. A total of 41 production buses, to go along with the 4 Vossloh-Kiepe demonstrators. All thru 2060 (as of Friday) have been on the street. And Doglover is indeed correct -- 9813, 9814, 9839, 9844, 9845 (it's not easy being green) are awaiting being towed away. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doglover44 Posted September 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 Update 9-24-2020 Well the last Kiepe trolley came today we officially have our new trolley fleet 1951-2070 plus demos 1401 and 1402 Diesel and 1403 and 1404 Battery 44 total ! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etbetb Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 44 are on site, 1 (1402) is off site being repaired after an accident. ================= Worth noting is that while 1401-1404 are Vossloh-Kiepe buses, 1951-1971 and 2051-2070 are Kiepe Electric buses. (Yes, they are built on Gillig gliders) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiepe_Electric "In December 2016, Vossloh AG announced that it was selling Vossloh Electrical Systems, of which Vossloh Kiepe was a part, to Knorr-Bremse,[12] and the sale was completed in late January 2017.[13] "In May 2017, new parent Knorr-Bremse announced the renaming of Vossloh Kiepe as Kiepe Electric,[14] a restoration of its pre-Vossloh name but using English spelling." 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin607 Posted October 23, 2020 Report Share Posted October 23, 2020 I wonder what is going to happen to the Kiepe factory now this order has been completed. I get frustrated with Kiepe, because they have a good product but they don't seem to do any promotion for the concept of battery-trolleybuses with in motion charging as an alternative to straight battery buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion6025 Posted October 23, 2020 Report Share Posted October 23, 2020 51 minutes ago, martin607 said: they don't seem to do any promotion for the concept of battery-trolleybuses with in motion charging as an alternative to straight battery buses. All electric buses are a much easier sell for agencies with zero trolleybus infrastructure, and there are only so many trolleybus operators around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin607 Posted October 24, 2020 Report Share Posted October 24, 2020 On 10/23/2020 at 7:12 PM, Orion6025 said: All electric buses are a much easier sell for agencies with zero trolleybus infrastructure, and there are only so many trolleybus operators around here. But Kiepe could do more promotion in Boston and Philadelphia. And there's no reason for not looking for new starts. With wiring only needed for 30% of a route. battery-trolleybuses are cost-competitive with battery buses for heavy duty applications. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion6025 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 20 hours ago, martin607 said: Boston Boston has been looking in favor of scrapping its North Cambridge system in favor of all electrics and the Silver line system in favor of all electrics or extended range hybrids. No where in the discussion for replacement vehicles for those routes have trolleybuses been a factor. Having wires up costs money through regular maintenance. It’s much easier to install chargers at the garage and maybe at one of the termini and calling it a day, especially when such chargers would be useful to all routes instead of just 3.. 20 hours ago, martin607 said: Philadelphia Philadelphia is in the process of slowly refurbishing their E40LFRs, they’re not replacing those soon. 20 hours ago, martin607 said: With wiring only needed for 30% of a route. battery-trolleybuses are cost-competitive with battery buses for heavy duty applications. Right if you want to live in a city covered with trolleybus wires and inevitability of getting detoured off the wired portion, then fine.. I’ll stick to battery electrics.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jova42R Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 On 10/24/2020 at 4:18 PM, martin607 said: But Kiepe could do more promotion in Boston and Philadelphia. And there's no reason for not looking for new starts. With wiring only needed for 30% of a route. battery-trolleybuses are cost-competitive with battery buses for heavy duty applications. And SF...they might be converting more routes to trolleybus operation. However... 3 hours ago, Orion6025 said: Right if you want to live in a city covered with trolleybus wires and inevitability of getting detoured off the wired portion, then fine.. I’ll stick to battery electrics This is correct. Trolleybuses just don’t make any sense in most cities. However, I’m all for converting EXISTING BRT routes into battery/trolleybus split operation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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