wt_enthusiast_photos Posted May 15 Report Share Posted May 15 4 hours ago, 2044 said: Matches older photos too. Fixed. I would of make the changes myself but just wanted to make sure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board Admin A. Wong Posted August 15 Board Admin Report Share Posted August 15 Quote 08.14.24 Press Releases New Flyer hybrid-electric buses to include next-generation BAE Systems propulsion system BAE Systems’ next-generation component offers improved reliability and serviceability for New Flyer’s advanced hybrid-electric transit bus St. Cloud, Minnesota, USA – August 14, 2024: (TSX: NFI, OTC: NFYEF, TSX: NFI.DB) – New Flyer of America Inc. (New Flyer), a subsidiary of NFI Group Inc. (NFI) and a leader in zero-emission electric mobility solutions, today announced the addition of BAE Systems’ Gen3 modular power control system (MPCS) and traction motor as an available powertrain option for Xcelsior® hybrid-electric transit buses built from model year 2025 onward. The next-generation system from BAE Systems is smaller and lighter than the previous generation product. The reduced number of components, cables, and connections in the MPCS works in conjunction with hardware and software improvements to provide more reliability, more efficiency, and a better total cost of ownership over the life of the bus. The system features two energy storage options, including a 12-year-life ultracapacitor or a part-time electric, geofencing-capable solution, all supported by BAE Systems’ extensive North American service network. BAE Systems’ Gen3 system represents progress gained across more than 27 years of innovation and improvement, built off lessons learned from across 18,000 fielded electric propulsion systems. “At New Flyer, we are working continuously to integrate new parts and technologies, and with each new inclusion we aim to strike a balance between products that are innovative and reliable,” said Ian Macpherson, Vice President, Engineering Services, New Flyer and MCI. “We believe offering this new MPCS option is an important next step in our continuing mission to provide our customers with a more reliable, efficient and sustainable product.” “Our next-generation electric drive system harnesses our commitment to continued innovation, enhancing the proven benefits of hybrid-electric technology in transit,” said Rob Dykema, Senior Director of North American Transit Accounts for Power & Propulsion Solutions at BAE Systems. “This system improves hybrid-electric bus efficiency, lowering fuel use and emissions to advance sustainable public transportation.” New Flyer has a wide variety of propulsion options across its Xcelsior family of heavy-duty transit buses, including battery-electric, fuel cell-electric, and hybrid-electric options. Hybrid-electric vehicles can often serve as a low-emission steppingstone for agencies before they transition to zero-emission options. The implementation of these vehicles allows time for necessary support elements, such as infrastructure, to be implemented while still immediately reducing an agency’s greenhouse gas (GHG) contributions. “New Flyer understands that our position as a leader in sustainable transit makes it necessary for us to meet communities where they are as they work towards their emission reduction goals,” said Jennifer McNeill, Vice President, Public Sector Sales & Marketing, New Flyer and MCI. “For many agencies, hybrid-electric buses are the option best suited to their current circumstances and a first step towards fleet decarbonization.” Today, NFI supports growing North American cities with scalable, clean, and sustainable mobility solutions through its mobility solution ecosystem, which includes buses and coaches; infrastructure; parts and service; technology; workforce development and training; and vehicle financing. NFI also operates the Vehicle Innovation Center (VIC), the first and only innovation lab of its kind dedicated to advancing bus and coach technology and providing workforce development. Since opening in late 2017, the VIC has hosted over 400 interactive events, welcoming 9,000 industry professionals for EV and infrastructure training. About NFI Leveraging 450 years of combined experience, NFI is leading the electrification of mass mobility around the world. With zero-emission buses and coaches, infrastructure, and technology, NFI meets today’s urban demands for scalable smart mobility solutions. Together, NFI is enabling more livable cities through connected, clean, and sustainable transportation. With over 8,750 team members in ten countries, NFI is a leading global bus manufacturer of mass mobility solutions under the brands New Flyer® (heavy-duty transit buses), MCI® (motor coaches), Alexander Dennis Limited (single and double-deck buses), Plaxton (motor coaches), ARBOC® (low-floor cutaway and medium-duty buses), and NFI Parts™. NFI currently offers the widest range of sustainable drive systems available, including zero-emission electric (trolley, battery, and fuel cell), natural gas, electric hybrid, and clean diesel. In total, NFI supports its installed base of over 100,000 buses and coaches around the world. NFI’s common shares are traded on the Toronto Stock Exchange (TSX) under the symbol NFI and its convertible unsecured debentures are traded on the TSX under the symbol NFI.DB. News and information is available at www.nfigroup.com, www.newflyer.com, www.mcicoach.com, nfi.parts, www.alexander-dennis.com, www.arbocsv.com, and carfaircomposites.com. About New Flyer New Flyer is North America’s heavy-duty transit bus leader and offers the most advanced product line under the Xcelsior® and Xcelsior CHARGE® brands. It also offers infrastructure development through NFI Infrastructure Solutions™, a service dedicated to providing safe, sustainable, and reliable charging and mobility solutions. New Flyer actively supports over 35,000 heavy-duty transit buses (New Flyer, NABI, and Orion) currently in service, of which 8,600 are powered by electric motors and battery propulsion and 1,900 are zero-emission. Further information is available at www.newflyer.com. Forward-Looking Statement This press release may contain forward-looking statements relating to expected future events and financial and operating results of NFI that involve risks and uncertainties. Although the forward-looking statements contained in this press release are based upon what management believes to be reasonable assumptions, investors cannot be assured that actual results will be consistent with these forward-looking statements, and the differences may be material. Actual results may differ materially from management expectations as projected in such forward-looking statements for a variety of reasons, including market and general economic conditions and economic conditions of and funding availability for customers to purchase buses and to purchase parts or services; customers may not exercise options to purchase additional buses; the ability of customers to suspend or terminate contracts for convenience; production may be delayed or production rates may be decreased as a result of ongoing and future supply chain disruptions and shortages of parts and components, shipping and freight delays, and disruption to and shortage of labor supply; and the other risks and uncertainties discussed in the materials filed with the Canadian securities regulatory authorities and available on SEDAR at www.sedarplus.ca. Due to the potential impact of these factors, NFI disclaims any intention or obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise, unless required by applicable law. For investor and media inquiries, please contact: Stephen King P: 204.792.1300 Stephen.King@nfigroup.com Source: https://www.newflyer.com/2024/08/new-flyer-hybrid-electric-buses-to-include-next-generation-bae-systems-propulsion-system/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
981 Posted August 18 Report Share Posted August 18 Bye bye to the XDE60, XDE35, and XN35 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyerD901 Posted August 18 Report Share Posted August 18 38 minutes ago, 981 said: Bye bye to the XDE60, XDE35, and XN35 Either Cummins is still working on something behind the scenes. But after the last time when Cummins didn't have a hybrid engine ready, I think this time it's finished. The problem is, I doubt most transit agencies that have hybrid artic's will jump to an all electric. So they'll have to accept diesel buses , or risk jumping to EV artic's. An agency like TTC , from a political pressure will probably jump right into all electric artic order with zero regard. I look forward to that. Or just simply order 40ft hybrids equivalent. Nova could possibly use a Volvo engine for the hybrid application. But I'm not familiar with that application. And now that I think about, if it were possible to use their own instead of another company like Cummins for the hybrid application, it would have been done already. Only hope is for EPA to be eliminated or severely crippled. I can't blame engine manufacturers for not being bothered with these new regulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
981 Posted August 18 Report Share Posted August 18 11 minutes ago, FlyerD901 said: Either Cummins is still working on something behind the scenes. But after the last time when Cummins didn't have a hybrid engine ready, I think this time it's finished. The problem is, I doubt most transit agencies that have hybrid artic's will jump to an all electric. So they'll have to accept diesel buses , or risk jumping to EV artic's. An agency like TTC , from a political pressure will probably jump right into all electric artic order with zero regard. I look forward to that. Or just simply order 40ft hybrids equivalent. Nova could possibly use a Volvo engine for the hybrid application. But I'm not familiar with that application. And now that I think about, if it were possible to use their own instead of another company like Cummins for the hybrid application, it would have been done already. Only hope is for EPA to be eliminated or severely crippled. I can't blame engine manufacturers for not being bothered with these new regulations. Don't quote me on this, but there is RUMOURS that Volvo is ALLEGEDLY working on an engine to fill that gap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyerD901 Posted August 19 Report Share Posted August 19 29 minutes ago, 981 said: Don't quote me on this, but there is RUMOURS that Volvo is ALLEGEDLY working on an engine to fill that gap This will determine if Volvo really invest in Novas. Lol. Again, if these allegedly rumours are true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonov AN-225 Mriya Posted August 19 Report Share Posted August 19 6 hours ago, 981 said: Don't quote me on this, but there is RUMOURS that Volvo is ALLEGEDLY working on an engine to fill that gap Volvo Already have D8 engine, if they want maybe B8 engine in Nova? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
981 Posted August 19 Report Share Posted August 19 3 minutes ago, Antonov AN-225 Mriya said: Volvo Already have D8 engine, if they want maybe B8 engine in Nova? There's also the D9B engine, honestly I think it's 50/50 between those two IF THESE ALLEGED RUMOURS ARE TRUE i personally want to see them shoehorn a big old D17 into the back of an LFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonov AN-225 Mriya Posted August 19 Report Share Posted August 19 6 hours ago, FlyerD901 said: Either Cummins is still working on something behind the scenes. But after the last time when Cummins didn't have a hybrid engine ready, I think this time it's finished. The problem is, I doubt most transit agencies that have hybrid artic's will jump to an all electric. So they'll have to accept diesel buses , or risk jumping to EV artic's. An agency like TTC , from a political pressure will probably jump right into all electric artic order with zero regard. I look forward to that. Or just simply order 40ft hybrids equivalent. Nova could possibly use a Volvo engine for the hybrid application. But I'm not familiar with that application. And now that I think about, if it were possible to use their own instead of another company like Cummins for the hybrid application, it would have been done already. Only hope is for EPA to be eliminated or severely crippled. I can't blame engine manufacturers for not being bothered with these new regulations. The EPA2027 emissions standard appears to be more stringent than the Euro7 emissions standard. 8 minutes ago, 981 said: There's also the D9B engine, honestly I think it's 50/50 between those two IF THESE ALLEGED RUMOURS ARE TRUE i personally want to see them shoehorn a big old D17 into the back of an LFS In fact, Volvo Trucks and its MACK unit no longer sell D16/MP10 engines in the U.S. and Canada in 2016, and Volvo's new VNL and VNX rely entirely on the Cummins 15-liter ISX15 and X15. Currently, Volvo's largest engine in North America is the 12.8-liter D13. The latest version of the D13TC offers up to 500 HP and 1,950 IB-FT Volvo recently launched a new 17.3-liter in-line six-cylinder engine for FH16 and MACK plans to call it the MP11 and sell it in Australia and New Zealand. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
981 Posted August 19 Report Share Posted August 19 12 minutes ago, Antonov AN-225 Mriya said: The EPA2027 emissions standard appears to be more stringent than the Euro7 emissions standard. In fact, Volvo Trucks and its MACK unit no longer sell D16/MP10 engines in the U.S. and Canada in 2016, and Volvo's new VNL and VNX rely entirely on the Cummins 15-liter ISX15 and X15. Currently, Volvo's largest engine in North America is the 12.8-liter D13. The latest version of the D13TC offers up to 500 HP and 1,950 IB-FT Volvo recently launched a new 17.3-liter in-line six-cylinder engine for FH16 and MACK plans to call it the MP11 and sell it in Australia and New Zealand. Now shove that new D17 in the back of an LFS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus_Medic Posted August 19 Report Share Posted August 19 13 hours ago, FlyerD901 said: Only hope is for EPA to be eliminated or severely crippled. I can't blame engine manufacturers for not being bothered with these new regulations. I’m working on the assumption this is a satirical take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyerD901 Posted August 19 Report Share Posted August 19 2 hours ago, Bus_Medic said: I’m working on the assumption this is a satirical take. We all know they're not going anywhere. But I'm still going to rant. But I get the whole being sensitive to the environment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doppelkupplung Posted August 19 Report Share Posted August 19 11 hours ago, 981 said: Now shove that new D17 in the back of an LFS I mean you're most of the way there with every new Prevost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonov AN-225 Mriya Posted August 19 Report Share Posted August 19 1 hour ago, Doppelkupplung said: I mean you're most of the way there with every new Prevost. Prevost Offer VOLVO D13 for only engine since 2011, but if they Offer D17 780/3800NM engine for motorhome and specialty conversior could be a good options. Their is Rumor class A chassis factory such as Spartan is looking for even bigger horsepower engine options for Class A motorhome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus_Dealership Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 On 8/18/2024 at 7:40 PM, FlyerD901 said: Either Cummins is still working on something behind the scenes. But after the last time when Cummins didn't have a hybrid engine ready, I think this time it's finished. The problem is, I doubt most transit agencies that have hybrid artic's will jump to an all electric. So they'll have to accept diesel buses , or risk jumping to EV artic's. An agency like TTC , from a political pressure will probably jump right into all electric artic order with zero regard. I look forward to that. Or just simply order 40ft hybrids equivalent. Nova could possibly use a Volvo engine for the hybrid application. But I'm not familiar with that application. And now that I think about, if it were possible to use their own instead of another company like Cummins for the hybrid application, it would have been done already. Only hope is for EPA to be eliminated or severely crippled. I can't blame engine manufacturers for not being bothered with these new regulations. Honestly i really hope Volvo is making an engine for Novas as they already done it for the Prevost. On 8/19/2024 at 2:18 AM, 981 said: There's also the D9B engine, honestly I think it's 50/50 between those two IF THESE ALLEGED RUMOURS ARE TRUE i personally want to see them shoehorn a big old D17 into the back of an LFS They have the prototype bus in their st eustache so it might be either the 5th gen or a Volvo bus test for a new engine that novabus will use in the future instead of cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GZ6113PHEV5 Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 I am wondering anyone could give me a reference but is NewFlyer the company that produced the world’s first ever hydrogen fuel cell bus ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UprisingCanadian Posted October 9 Report Share Posted October 9 Not sure if I'm asking in the right spot, but I figured its better to ask than not to. Anyone know the status on that demonstrator D30LFR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wt_enthusiast_photos Posted October 9 Report Share Posted October 9 8 hours ago, UprisingCanadian said: Not sure if I'm asking in the right spot, but I figured its better to ask than not to. Anyone know the status on that demonstrator D30LFR? Scrapped. I do not know even. But I can say it’s scrapped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyerD901 Posted October 26 Report Share Posted October 26 NFI subsidiary New Flyer expands Winnipeg capability for all Canadian build of Xcelsior® Heavy-Duty Transit buses with funding support from the Government of Manitoba and PrairiesCan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyerD901 Posted October 26 Report Share Posted October 26 Great to see NFI expanding. Only trolley order in Canada they'll get will be Vancouver, but I guess they have to mention it to get funding for the facility expansion. I guess this is response or a better position for when/if Nova reduced production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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