DE40LFR Posted December 19, 2009 Report Posted December 19, 2009 Fianally got pics of the mystery bus in Winnipeg. They are putting this bus through lots of testing!!... i think they might me simulating the route 47 Transcona to test it. Sorry for bad quality!! D40LFX? .... D40XR?
Ber Posted December 19, 2009 Report Posted December 19, 2009 it looks like its only a regular D40LFR w/ EPA 2010 engine specs for the rear and 2009 onwards door config... not a new model...that box on the roof isnt part of the bus is it??? must a be a temp casing for the hvac if it is....
M. Parsons Posted December 19, 2009 Report Posted December 19, 2009 it looks like its only a regular D40LFR w/ EPA 2010 engine specs for the rear and 2009 onwards door config... not a new model...that box on the roof isnt part of the bus is it??? must a be a temp casing for the hvac if it is.... HVAC is likely required to be on the roof now if the DEF equipment needs extra space in the back, although, I'm sure they will come up with a new housing for the HVAC. It would seem engine comparment changes require the use of the Xcelsior rear passenger window with the slope in it. Perhaps that was why the Xcelsior was designed with that slanted window in the first place... in anticipation of EPA 2010. Those mouldings around the wheelwells look a bit different too. Could also just be because they contrast with the body, rather than being black.
new.flyer.408 Posted December 19, 2009 Report Posted December 19, 2009 Interesting rear cap on that bus. Those mouldings around the wheelwells look a bit different too. Could also just be because they contrast with the body, rather than being black. NFI buses with the side skirts use those mouldings.
AlexLy Posted December 19, 2009 Report Posted December 19, 2009 Fianally got pics of the mystery bus in Winnipeg. They are putting this bus through lots of testing!!... i think they might me simulating the route 47 Transcona to test it.Sorry for bad quality!! D40LFX? .... D40XR? The rear almost look like a 3rd gen. Nova to me....
Ber Posted December 19, 2009 Report Posted December 19, 2009 well all in all i kinda like the new design...a return to rear windows on buses like yesteryear b4 the days of AC....
M. Parsons Posted December 20, 2009 Report Posted December 20, 2009 well all in all i kinda like the new design...a return to rear windows on buses like yesteryear b4 the days of AC.... Well, not just AC but heating as well. Edmonton and others have a diesel operated heater where the rear window would be located.
DE40LFR Posted December 20, 2009 Author Report Posted December 20, 2009 Would anyone think that this bus is a new design from New Flyer for their way in buying back Ottawa as they awarded Ottawa with a dedicated fleet?? Ottawa purchased the INvero's from New FLyer in previous years, as the INvero was the "above LF bus" and so do you think this is the "above LFR bus" that Ottawa will purchase?
M. Parsons Posted December 20, 2009 Report Posted December 20, 2009 Would anyone think that this bus is a new design from New Flyer for their way in buying back Ottawa as they awarded Ottawa with a dedicated fleet?? Ottawa purchased the INvero's from New FLyer in previous years, as the INvero was the "above LF bus" and so do you think this is the "above LFR bus" that Ottawa will purchase? Doubt it, after all, New Flyer already offers the BRT version which would be the next step up from the LFR, as the Invero was to the LF.
Ber Posted December 20, 2009 Report Posted December 20, 2009 yea... its more of a refreshment of the existing design just like cars...jus like honda does to its civics every 2 years....
BusRider Posted December 20, 2009 Report Posted December 20, 2009 I've been thinking. Might Winnipeg use it for their new "BRT"?
Canadian National Posted December 21, 2009 Report Posted December 21, 2009 Would anyone think that this bus is a new design from New Flyer for their way in buying back Ottawa as they awarded Ottawa with a dedicated fleet?? Ottawa purchased the INvero's from New FLyer in previous years, as the INvero was the "above LF bus" and so do you think this is the "above LFR bus" that Ottawa will purchase? Ottawa wont be buying any 40 footers soon. Only 60 Footers or 77 Double Deckers for the upcoming years.
2044 Posted December 21, 2009 Report Posted December 21, 2009 Would anyone think that this bus is a new design from New Flyer for their way in buying back Ottawa as they awarded Ottawa with a dedicated fleet?? Ottawa purchased the INvero's from New FLyer in previous years, as the INvero was the "above LF bus" and so do you think this is the "above LFR bus" that Ottawa will purchase? This bus is still an LFR. The design change is mainly meant to accomodate the 2010 EPA standards on diesel-powered buses. At the same time NFI updated the look of the bus.Alternative fuel-powered buses may get a similar restyle to match. It's the isame idea with MCI and the D coach in 2007.
stm_5307N Posted December 21, 2009 Report Posted December 21, 2009 A rear window now eh.. Maybe NFI wants to make a bigger push to enter the Quebec market in the near future. I know that one of the must have's for Quebec TA's was transit buses to have a rear window. Even with that though, NFI still has a lot to work on to meet the requirements and specs that Quebec TA's want.
Gerbil Posted December 21, 2009 Report Posted December 21, 2009 Quebec TA's (Ones in major citys) will never buy NFI, theres already Nova...
Ber Posted December 21, 2009 Report Posted December 21, 2009 i wonder...will the final orders for the normal LF have the epa 2010 design for the rear as well...tat would make an interesting look...
stm_5307N Posted December 21, 2009 Report Posted December 21, 2009 Quebec TA's (Ones in major citys) will never buy NFI, theres already Nova... I know, but there's nothing stopping NFI from at least trying to get into Quebec.
T6H-5307N Posted December 21, 2009 Report Posted December 21, 2009 Well I'm a big fan of rear windows Would be nice to see seamless side windows as a standard spec too...
DE40LFR Posted December 21, 2009 Author Report Posted December 21, 2009 I've been thinking. Might Winnipeg use it for their new "BRT"? I saw a pic of the new buses that they might use... it was an articulated Xcelsior, but it is a possibility!! http://myride.winnipegtransit.com/en/rapid-transit/vehicles/
R. McConnell Posted December 21, 2009 Report Posted December 21, 2009 I see they've gone back to the windshield with squared-off corners as originally seen on the LFR series. I hope they do something about the grey box on top. It looks awful!
Ber Posted December 21, 2009 Report Posted December 21, 2009 dont worry its only a test bus so for sure they will streamline the box next year... as for the squared off windows...i think this particular bus was a converted early 09 or earlier bus so it will prob be rounded off as well..
general682002 Posted December 23, 2009 Report Posted December 23, 2009 A rear window now eh.. Maybe NFI wants to make a bigger push to enter the Quebec market in the near future. I know that one of the must have's for Quebec TA's was transit buses to have a rear window. Even with that though, NFI still has a lot to work on to meet the requirements and specs that Quebec TA's want. Not only that, they also want one piece windshield rather 2 piece windshield due to visibility.
BusRider Posted December 24, 2009 Report Posted December 24, 2009 I saw the bus. I am clueless to what it is.
M. Parsons Posted December 24, 2009 Report Posted December 24, 2009 I saw the bus. I am clueless to what it is. If you read the rest of this thread, you would have discovered that is it probably a 2010 EPA test unit!
Ber Posted December 24, 2009 Report Posted December 24, 2009 i just noticed that there seems to be a trend shift in terms of door design...it seems like nowadays (2009 onwards) the major bus companies are favouring simple full pane or divided in the middle rectangular glass w/ no more curved edges...cost savings?? oya since the lfr will have xcelsior type doors now...are wide rear doors going to be std?
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