orionbuslover Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 On 3/20/2022 at 4:10 PM, RailBus63 said: According to the meeting minutes from the February 25th board meeting, the build for next order of new buses from Gillig was scheduled to begin on March 11th. This is ushering a new era for the fleet. They've always maintained a very diverse fleet. When the fleet was mostly Orions they still had Nova RTS's, New Flyers, and Gilligs. With the oldest Orions and MCIs to be replaced with Gillings, only the 2012 Orions would remain. The multi year contract with options for Gillig presumably means they'll have a 100% Gillig fleet in a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deandremouse Posted April 26, 2022 Report Share Posted April 26, 2022 On 3/20/2022 at 5:10 PM, RailBus63 said: According to the meeting minutes from the February 25th board meeting, the build for next order of new buses from Gillig was scheduled to begin on March 11th. This will be 18 40-foot CNG buses and 8 40-foot diesel buses for Syracuse, 4 35-foot diesels for Utica and 5 40-foot diesels with highback seats to begin replacing the MCI's, with delivery expected between late March and May. This will likely mean the end for the 2800's, 2900's and 1000's and the oldest MCI's (likely 2009 model buses 682-686), although it is always possible that some will end up as reserve fleet buses. Surprised New Flyer hasn't tried to sneak in and underbid Gillig to push the Xcelsior platform, seeing as Centro was a former New Flyer customer. They were purposely on a roll underbidding Gillig strongholds to push the Xcelsior line for the past couple of years. Interesting though Oh and if anyone hasn't seen it one of my friends owns the 9977 - It's still alive: Centro 9977 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion6025 Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 15GGD3114N3196969-72 so far for the 2022 40' order 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edison Posted May 15, 2022 Report Share Posted May 15, 2022 Just leaving Buffalo... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailBus63 Posted May 15, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2022 Nice catch. Should be interesting to see how the number series shakes out for the entire order, given the multiple size and powertrain configurations. The clock is ticking on 1000-1017 and good thing - those buses have served well but they are beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Yorker 2001 Posted May 16, 2022 Report Share Posted May 16, 2022 14 hours ago, RailBus63 said: Nice catch. Should be interesting to see how the number series shakes out for the entire order, given the multiple size and powertrain configurations. The clock is ticking on 1000-1017 and good thing - those buses have served well but they are beat. Yeah, IIRC Centro got their 2010 Orion 7.501 NG CNGs between NG CNG orders for MTA Long Island bus/NICE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edison Posted May 17, 2022 Report Share Posted May 17, 2022 On 5/15/2022 at 10:16 AM, RailBus63 said: Nice catch. Should be interesting to see how the number series shakes out for the entire order, given the multiple size and powertrain configurations. The clock is ticking on 1000-1017 and good thing - those buses have served well but they are beat. You kind of had me thinking of the 2017 order with the way those are numbered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailBus63 Posted May 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 3 hours ago, edison said: You kind of had me thinking of the 2017 order with the way those are numbered. There is now a photo of 2230 on Centro's Facebook page, so the number series for the CNG's appears to be 2230-2247. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orionbuslover Posted May 19, 2022 Report Share Posted May 19, 2022 On 5/15/2022 at 7:35 AM, edison said: Just leaving Buffalo... The remodeled CNG tank is a nice improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Yorker 2001 Posted June 10, 2022 Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 On 5/19/2022 at 1:53 PM, orionbuslover said: The remodeled CNG tank is a nice improvement. The Advantage seems to have several different CNG tank-cover styles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailBus63 Posted June 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2022 2210 and 2211 are now in service on the Oswego division. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion6025 Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 Centro G27B102N4: N3197009-N3197012 (4) Centro G31D102N4: N3196969-N3196986 (18) Centro G27D102N4: N3195601-N3195608 (8) For those keeping score, this is what i am aware of for 2022 serials as of today. Based on RailBus' information quoted below: On 5/17/2022 at 8:06 PM, RailBus63 said: There is now a photo of 2230 on Centro's Facebook page, so the number series for the CNG's appears to be 2230-2247. It looks like Syracuse's CNG batch seems to be complete. On 6/17/2022 at 10:47 AM, RailBus63 said: 2210 and 2211 are now in service on the Oswego division. I'd like to add 2213-2214 to that now-in-service report. I don't track Syracuse religiously nor do I live in Onondaga/Oswego Counties so I'm not sure about 2212, but it seems logical that it exists as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailBus63 Posted July 9, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2022 17 hours ago, Orion6025 said: I'd like to add 2213-2214 to that now-in-service report. I don't track Syracuse religiously nor do I live in Onondaga/Oswego Counties so I'm not sure about 2212, but it seems logical that it exists as well. The series appears to be 2210-2217. The 40-foot single-door diesels are 2250-2254 and the four 35-footers for Utica are numbered 2220-2223. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailBus63 Posted July 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 Seven buses up for auction on Public Surplus - Gilligs 2801, 2900, 2901 and 2904, MCI 683 and Orions 1000 and 1007. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Yorker 2001 Posted August 1, 2022 Report Share Posted August 1, 2022 On 7/26/2022 at 8:53 PM, RailBus63 said: Seven buses up for auction on Public Surplus - Gilligs 2801, 2900, 2901 and 2904, MCI 683 and Orions 1000 and 1007. The O7 NG CNGs are being retired now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orionbuslover Posted August 1, 2022 Report Share Posted August 1, 2022 4 hours ago, New Yorker 2001 said: The O7 NG CNGs are being retired now? That's how Centro rolls, 12 years and done. Some buses may last up to 15 years but rarely. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Yorker 2001 Posted August 1, 2022 Report Share Posted August 1, 2022 2 hours ago, orionbuslover said: That's how Centro rolls, 12 years and done. Some buses may last up to 15 years but rarely. I mean NICE bus is the same way. Most of their O7 NG CNG fleet got retired last year. Only a few dozen NG CNGs and 3G CNGs remain now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailBus63 Posted August 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2022 22 hours ago, orionbuslover said: That's how Centro rolls, 12 years and done. Some buses may last up to 15 years but rarely. Some of the 2005 New Flyers and 2008 Gilligs lasted beyond 12 years. And Orion V #9977 lasted 20 years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orionbuslover Posted August 2, 2022 Report Share Posted August 2, 2022 Oh how I miss the 9900s and their wacky Fuccillo wraps. RIP to them, Billy, and Tom! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCTransitFilms Posted August 2, 2022 Report Share Posted August 2, 2022 Is 2903 still active? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsbuspage Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 13 hours ago, RailBus63 said: Some of the 2005 New Flyers and 2008 Gilligs lasted beyond 12 years. And Orion V #9977 lasted 20 years! And 540 lasted 24 years. Here are photos I took in 2002: and in 2011: And despite its longevity, it looks as if I never managed to get a photo of 9977! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edison Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, tomsbuspage said: And 540 lasted 24 years. Here are photos I took in 2002: and in 2011: What are the half round things on the roof... Some type of vent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsbuspage Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 13 hours ago, edison said: What are the half round things on the roof... Some type of vent? Probably, though I'm not an expert here. They look a lot like the ones on the Yellow Coach and GM Old Look buses before the Thermo-Matic units were introduced in 1946. Looking through some older photos, the vents were also used on the Neoplan and Orion I buses from the 1980s, at least. Centro also had non-standard AC units their Orion I and V buses, as seen on the photos below: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailBus63 Posted August 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 19 hours ago, DCTransitFilms said: Is 2903 still active? All of the 40-foot 2900's are retired. Not sure if 2903 has been auctioned off yet. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion6025 Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 15GGD2714N3196987-N3196991 I am going to assume these are the suburbans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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