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1 hour ago, 3we said:

121 XN40s + options, 20 XN60 + options

That is more than enough buses to replace the 2008/2009 C40LFRs and 2010 L40LFRs, however, perhaps the 2006 C40LFR replacement has been moved into this contract instead of the Gillig contract.  Is the RPTA not satisfied with Gillig?

As for the 20 XN60s perhaps they will replace both the 2008 D60LFAs and the 2010 D40LFAs.  Interesting they are going with CNG for their replacements though.  

However, for replacing the 2007 D40LFRs the RPTA is forced to go with diesel since the ValuTrans/Total Transit facility is not equipped for CNG (that is assuming they keep the contract).  I wonder if those for the West Valley will be in standard transit, semi-suburban, or full suburban configuration.

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The replacements for the John Deeres are programmed for the upcoming fiscal year. The proposed XN40 schedule calls for 11 in FY18 and 51 in FY20. I can't see RPTA pushing the replacements back two years. It did push back some expansion buses, but some will be needed for this fall.

The XN60s are 3 in FY20 and 17 in FY22.

Now that I've thought about it, won't the 51 in FY20 cover 6597-6647?

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6 hours ago, 3we said:

The replacements for the John Deeres are programmed for the upcoming fiscal year. The proposed XN40 schedule calls for 11 in FY18 and 51 in FY20. I can't see RPTA pushing the replacements back two years. It did push back some expansion buses, but some will be needed for this fall.

The XN60s are 3 in FY20 and 17 in FY22.

Now that I've thought about it, won't the 51 in FY20 cover 6597-6647?

That makes sense.  However, when including the replacements for 6648-6668 (2009 C40LFR) and 6669-6675 (2010 L40LFR), that leaves 42 more buses ordered (not including options).  Where the total seems to add up is if the replacement includes Tempe's 2011 C40LFRs and the RPTA's 2012 Express C40LFRs, which totals exactly 121 buses, however, the latter won't be 12 years old within the contract range and I don't think they will have enough mileage since they sit in the yard most of the day.

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Maybe the 21 in FY21 are 6648-6668, the 38 in FY22 are 6669-6697 plus 7001-7009, and the 17 XN60s in FY22 are 8065-8081.

So that would leave 11 expansion XN40s in FY18 and 3 XN60s in FY20. Plus whatever Gilligs are leftover. Plus the XN60s replacing 8501-10. 8511-20 not accounted for.

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