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That's the standard configuration that Valley Metro uses on most of their New Flyer 40' low floors. In fact, the only New Flyer low floors that do not have that door configuration are the ex-airport C40LFs, the 2006 C40LFRs, and the 2007 D40LFRs. The 1994 D40LFs, 1996 D40LFs, 2007 D40LFs, 2008 C40LFRs, 2009 C40LFRs, and 2010 L40LFRs all had/had the door after the second window on the passenger side.

Remember, Phoenix was the first operator of the NABI 40-LFW, so they derived that design in part from the design of the 1994 and 1996 D40LFs that Valley Metro had.

Some of OCTA's old New Flyer D40LF's had that configuration.

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Some of OCTA's old New Flyer D40LF's had that configuration.

But they still have rear ramp operate for wheelchair, but noticed there's no front ramp installed.

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But they still have rear ramp operate for wheelchair, but noticed there's no front ramp installed.

True, most of OCTA's fleet has the wheelchair ramp equipped in the rear, even the newest ones

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Hey guys, I'll try and get pictures ASAP but it looks like the Tempe fleet have started to receive the rest of their L40LFR's.. I saw 6670 yesterday in the older Valley Metro livery on service 72!

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The following are the vins and corresponding fleet numbers for the 2007 New Flyer D40LF and D60LF buses for Valley Metro of Phoenix, AZ.

2007 D40LFs:

7C031404-31442 6501-6539

7C031724-31780 6540-6596

2007 D60LFs:

7C032047-32076 8021-8050

If anyone has info on the VIN numbers for the L40LFR buses in the Phoenix area, that would be helpful.

Stalwart23

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The following are the vins and corresponding fleet numbers for the 2007 New Flyer D40LF and D60LF buses for Valley Metro of Phoenix, AZ.

2007 D40LFs:

7C031404-31442 6501-6539

7C031724-31780 6540-6596

2007 D60LFs:

7C032047-32076 8021-8050

If anyone has info on the VIN numbers for the L40LFR buses in the Phoenix area, that would be helpful.

Stalwart23

That's good info to know. There are some very subtle differences that I've noticed between 6501-6539 and 6540-6596.

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That's good info to know. There are some very subtle differences that I've noticed between 6501-6539 and 6540-6596.

Would you mind sharing these differences with us?

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I saw 6669 yesterday, in a color scheme modified from what is on 6667/6668. Also, I am pretty sure I have seen 6648 as a 2009 C40LFR.

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You are right about seeing 6648 as a 2009 C40LFR. I've seen it before on an express run in Ahwatukee and it has the CNG tank on the top of the bus.

The VIN for this bus is: 5FYC5FB1X9C035132

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Has anybody seen these L40LFR's on anything but the 72 and 81? I rarely see them on the 72 which leads me to believe that maybe they're making their way onto the other Tempe routes...

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For anyone who wants to know, the vin for Valley Metro 6669 is:

5FYC5FB1X9C036457.

Now most of you think the fourth digit is supposed to be an L for LNG, this was an error for New Flyer Industries as C is for CNG.

Stalwart23

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The following are the vins and corresponding fleet numbers for the 2007 New Flyer D40LF and D60LF buses for Valley Metro of Phoenix, AZ.

2007 D40LFs:

7C031404-31442 6501-6539

7C031724-31780 6540-6596

2007 D60LFs:

7C032047-32076 8021-8050

If anyone has info on the VIN numbers for the L40LFR buses in the Phoenix area, that would be helpful.

Stalwart23

A minor correction to make with these serial numbers for Valley Metro.

The 2007 D40LFs are as follows after some researching:

7C031404-31446 6501-6543

7C031728-31780 6544-6596

These buses are powered by a Cummins ISL engine.

As for the D60LFs, it is unknown if they are powered by the same engine or a Catterpillar C9.

Stalwart23

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Valley Metro has a large LNG, CNG, and Diesel fleet.

Yes, I didn't realize know that. Why Valley Metro can't have get rid of the older buses? Because the older buses should be phase out. When they will accepted delivery sometimes in early 2011. Last time that I heard Valley Metro is suffers loss $22 millions dollars and some of those routes is eliminated & changes the routes due to struggling economy. So that's why it was not good enough at all.

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And here's 6673

Wow!! Cool! Thanks for sharing the photos. They don't have one here on routes 44 yet.

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Well I heard from a friend that the Phoenix division now has some L40LFR's because they were spotted on the 0. I havn't had chance to check this out for myself yet, but it would make sense because Valley Metro have recently sold about 15 Phoenix NABI's through an online auction site.

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Yesterday afternoon, I was lucky enough to be at a public ceremony for the unveiling of the new LINK service along the Arizona Avenue corridor in Chandler. The event took place in downtown Chandler.

They had one of the new buses on display that are going to be used on this line. THis bus was one of the first New Flyer D40LFA buses to be built. It is numbered 7003.

The ribbon cutting ceremony had the mayors of Gilbert, Mesa and Chandler; as well as the ex-mayor of Chandler, and other people that work for Valley Metro.

This line will start at Main St. & Sycamore in Mesa and run to a park & ride just east of Germann Rd. & Arizona Ave.

In fact, I also got a chance to view the interior of the bus, in which the seats are made out of recyclable materials.

The builders plate states that the bus was built in April 2010, and its vin number is 5FYD7FV18AC037055.

Here is a photo of the new D40LFA bus that was on display.

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Well I heard from a friend that the Phoenix division now has some L40LFR's because they were spotted on the 0. I havn't had chance to check this out for myself yet, but it would make sense because Valley Metro have recently sold about 15 Phoenix NABI's through an online auction site.

I didn't know that. From what I've noticed, the 1998 NABIs are still in fairly good condition. I've looked around the 0 and have only seen NABIs. If there are L40LFRs I'd love to check them out.

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I didn't know that. From what I've noticed, the 1998 NABIs are still in fairly good condition. I've looked around the 0 and have only seen NABIs. If there are L40LFRs I'd love to check them out.

6113 now up for auction....latest bid is $2275.

But I'd be surprised to see L40LFR on Phoenix Transit routes. The New Flyer order was for Valley Metro (RPTA), on which Tempe would piggy back. Phoenix was going to order El Dorados, until the sales tax revenues went south. It wouldn't be impossible for Phoenix to "lease" buses from Valley Metro, but I haven't seen any paperwork to that effect (usually takes at least an intergovernmental agreement).

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Today was the first day that the Arizona Avenue Link buses ran in service. I went out to Mesa to get a ride on one, here's 7009:

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I also saw 7007 running in service.

The bus behind it is an older D62LFA running the Main Street Link.

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I havn't seen any in Phoenix for myself either, so I can't verify that there are any over there but then again I don't get over there very often.

The following NABI's have been sold online: 6007 6008 6014 6103 6105 6109 6119 6106 6110 6126 6096 6118

and as mentioned above, 6113 is currently up for sale.

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I havn't seen any in Phoenix for myself either, so I can't verify that there are any over there but then again I don't get over there very often.

The following NABI's have been sold online: 6007 6008 6014 6103 6105 6109 6119 6106 6110 6126 6096 6118

and as mentioned above, 6113 is currently up for sale.

Phoenix appears to have had what seems to be a surplus of buses ever since the large New Flyer order came in back in 2007 (with the 96 D40LFs and 30 D60LFs). The 20 2008 D60LFs combined with the service cuts probably allowed them to begin to retire a portion of the non-rehabbed 1998 NABIs. From the numbers above, it appears that most of the retired buses were based at the South Division (which also houses all of the 2002 NABIs, 2004 D60LFs, and 2008 D60LFs).

Well I heard from a friend that the Phoenix division now has some L40LFR's because they were spotted on the 0. I havn't had chance to check this out for myself yet, but it would make sense because Valley Metro have recently sold about 15 Phoenix NABI's through an online auction site.

Your friend very well could have spotted a L40LFR in Central/Downtown Phoenix. The Tempe division operates express route 512 (which goes down Central Ave).

6113 now up for auction....latest bid is $2275.

But I'd be surprised to see L40LFR on Phoenix Transit routes. The New Flyer order was for Valley Metro (RPTA), on which Tempe would piggy back. Phoenix was going to order El Dorados, until the sales tax revenues went south. It wouldn't be impossible for Phoenix to "lease" buses from Valley Metro, but I haven't seen any paperwork to that effect (usually takes at least an intergovernmental agreement).

Tempe appears to "lease" the mid-upper 663Xs-6647 from the RPTA for use on the 510, 512, 72, and 81. Also, the 4002-403X 1994 D40LFs were transferred from Phoenix to the RPTA back in the day.

However, there appear to only be 7 L40LFRs in the fleet (all owned by the City of Tempe).

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