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  1. Similar to the GM fleet reminiscing, I created this thread to share the memories and photos of your experience with the TTC's non-GM Fishbowl fleet prior to 2002 such as Classics, Flyers, New Flyers, Orions (I, II, III, V, VI and pre-refurbished VII), and NovaBUS RTS. If anyone has photos prior to December 31, 2016, feel free to post your old photos from old shoe boxes, slides, even library microfiche or whatever is there. Just don't claim that they are your own if they are not. The following photos are sampled below from my collection: Thanks to @Grapejuice for this
  2. http://www.angelfire.com/ca/TORONTO/builders/orion1.html I'm hoping we can create a database of complete serial numbers for the 1982-84 Orion I deliveries. These serial numbers have the line sequence number representing characters 12-14 in the VIN number, which started at serial no. 457 (C5356457 goes to Markham Transit #2016, delivered 5/1982) and ended at serial no. 999 (E5563999 goes to Whitehorse Transit #14, delivered 7/1984). The first U.S.-built Orion I carried the serial number C6001449 (goes to Pacific Transit System #D10, delivered 7/1982). However, the 1982 Orion Is delivered to T
  3. Apparently Clallam Transit got some new Hybrid mini buses according to this article and I wonder if #629 is one of them in the attached image....: http://www.clallamtransit.com/news.html . I would guess 629 is one of them as there are photos of #624 in the above link. Also, during my recently visit to Port Angeles last month, I found some Gillig Low Floors numbered 611 up to 615 which are not listed on the Wiki. I visited Port Angeles back in September of 2012 as well and did not see any Gilligs numbered higher than #608 which is also the highest listed on the Wiki page. So if anyone has
  4. I have a question: were there any U.S. transit agencies who ran their Orion I's, V's and/or New Flyers with the Detroit Diesel 6V92TA engine and Voith transmission? This was the powertrain of choice in Canada for the following: YORK REGION TRANSIT (MARKHAM TRANSIT) (MARKHAM, ON) 2033-2036 - 1988 Orion I 01.508 2044-2047 - 1989 MCI Classic TC40-102N 2048-2052 - 1990 MCI Classic TC40-102A 2053-2054 - 1991 Orion V 05.501 YORK REGION TRANSIT (RICHMOND HILL TRANSIT) (RICHMOND HILL, ON) 511-524 - 1989 New Flyer D40 (T-drive) (renumbered 8911-8924 by YRT) YORK REGION TRANSIT (EX-GO TRANSIT) 1130-
  5. Could you please verify all five of these VIN numbers for these Orion I's that were operated by Clallam Transit (Port Angeles, WA)? 581 (1984 Orion I 01.504): 2B1129277E6894990 (if 6V71N engine) or 2B1129776E6894990 (if 6V92TA engine) 582 (1984 Orion I 01.504): 2B1129273E6895991 (if 6V71N engine) or 2B1129772E6895991 (if 6V92TA engine) 583 (1990 Orion I 01.507): 2B1139779L6002595 584 (1992 Orion I 01.508): 2B1169777N6003125 585 (1992 Orion I 01.508): 2B1169779N6003126 Thank you, Ben
  6. Is it true that the CyRide 1983 Orion I 01.506 numbered 1408 (later 908) had the Detroit Diesel 6V71TA engine and Allison HT740 transmission? According to the engine code in its VIN number (1) that you have here, it did. All other Orion I's in the CyRide fleet had the naturally-aspirated 6V71N (rather than the 6V92TA), even through as late as 1988. 1=Detroit Diesel 6V71TA 2=Detroit Diesel 6V71N 7=Detroit Diesel 6V92TA ~Ben
  7. This will be a tough question to answer, and here it goes: were there any Orion I's built in 1984 and 1985 that used the Voith D863 transmission behind the Detroit Diesel 6V92TA engine (a la AC Transit's 1984 Gillig Phantoms numbered 1469 to 1483)? They can be model 01.502 (30 ft), 01.507 (35 ft) or 01.508 (40 ft). ~Ben
  8. Does anyone know of any Orion I 01.502 (30 foot) buses with the Cat 3208 diesel engine in them? I know the 1989 version of the Orion I 30-foot brochure does catalog that in the options list. ~Ben
  9. Although Zack Willhoite's website says that the transmission used on Intercity Transit's (of Olympia, WA) 1986 Orion I's is the Renk-Doromat (MAN Group) 874B automatic transmission (the same kind used in MAN articulated buses), somehow because it sounds uncannily like a Voith transmission, then I wonder how many other Olympians who rode those buses back in the day say the transmission is instead a Voith DIWA D863? The engine is a Detroit Diesel 6V92TA MUI. The buses are numbered 501-510. To get the idea what they would sound like, just listen to an Orion I that was operated by the likes of B
  10. Were there any Orion I's produced from 1982 to 1986 (when specified with the Detroit Diesel 6V92TA engine and the Allison MT644, HT740 or HT747 transmission) that sounded closer to a Gillig Phantom built in those same years mentioned? They can be of any length (30' for 01.502 or 01.503, 35' for 01.506 or 01.507, and 40' for 01.508 or 01.509). ~Ben
  11. http://cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php?title=Kingston_Transit_8382 When I entered that VIN for this 1983 Orion I, as typed (2B1129573D5509770), the VIN Decoder website says the check digit is incorrect. Therefore, I must now submit to you whether or not which of these two VINs is actually the correct one. Is it either 2B1129273D5509770, or 2B1129579D5509770? As the 6V53 was not used in the Orion I after 1982 save for the last OC Transpo 30-foot models (8371 to 8392), then I can only guess at whether or not Kingston's 8382 had the 6V53 (according to the typed VIN there) or if it had the 6V71N like m
  12. This question is for the experts of the GATRA bus fleet: is it true that the 1982 and 1983 Orion I's they ran (8217-8219 from 1982, 8320-8322 from 1983) came with Detroit Diesel 6V92TA engines? If yes, then the transmission behind them would be the Allison HT740 (8217-8219) or the HT747 (8320-8322). ~Ben
  13. I am wondering if Nolan (Stalwart23) or anyone else might be able to clue me in about the GATRA Orion I VIN numbers? They are listed below for you to see. 8217 01.504 2B1129774C6000532 8218 01.504 2B1129776C6000533 8219 01.504 2B112977XC6000535 8320 01.506 2B1129771D6000750 8321 01.506 2B1129775D6000752 8322 01.506 2B1129779D6000754 8923 01.502 2B1119772K6002264 8924 01.502 2B1119774K6002265 8925 01.502 2B1119776K6002266 8926 01.502 2B1119778K6002267 9127 01.507 2B1139770M6002910 9128 01.507 2B1139772M6002911 9129 01.507 2B1139774M6002912 9130 01.507 2B1139770M6002955 9131 01.507
  14. Here's some Orion I VIN numbers from this link: http://notes.brandon.ca/tenders.nsf/0965fee38275b21186256ab0006ab633/2a3410cb38be0308862575080075ff51/$FILE/For%20Sale%20by%20Tender%20-%20Transit%20Buses.pdf #34 - 2B1129274C5414536 Model: 01.504 (35 foot) Year: 1982 Delivered: 11/1982 Engine: Detroit Diesel 6V71N Transmission: Allison MT644 #35 - 2B1169K74K5001955 Model: 01.508 (40 foot) Year: 1989 Delivered: 7/1989 Engine: Detroit Diesel 6V92TA Transmission: Allison HTB748 Other: Initially delivered to Toronto Transit Commission as #9360 with Cummins L10G CNG engine and ZF ECOMAT 4HP500 tr
  15. Did any of the Fairfax Connector 1985 Orion I's (the agency's first buses ever) get saved in the years past 2007? These are units 7700-7732, with a 36-foot length. The powertrain on these 33 buses is a Detroit Diesel 6V92TA DDEC engine (they originally came with 6V71N engines) mated to the Allison MT644 transmission. The last of these buses to have an audio recording was of 7703 (inside) and 7732 (outside), both recorded by Trevor Logan, Jr. in 2007 on the eve of these buses being retired. But did anyone record and/or film videos of these buses besides unit 7701 (which Chris Der made an audio
  16. ALEXANDRIA TRANSIT COMPANY (VA) DASH ORION I VINs Units: 1-17 Model: 01.502 Delivered: 1/1984 Engine: Detroit Diesel 6V71N Transmission: Allison MT644 1: 2B1119273D6756817 2: 2B111927XD6757818 3: 2B1119274E6758819 4: 2B1119275E6759820 5: 2B1119273E6760822 6: 2B111927XE6761823 7: 2B1119276E6762824 8: 2B1119272E6763825 9: 2B1119279E6764826 10: 2B1119277E6765828 11: 2B1119273E6766829 12: 2B1119274E6767830 13: 2B1119270E6768831 14: 2B1119277E6769832 15: 2B1119273E6770833 16: 2B1119271E6771835 17: 2B1119278E6772836 For pages: http://cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php?title=Orion_Bus_In
  17. FAIRFAX CONNECTOR ORION I VINs LIST 7700-7732 Delivered: 7/1985 Engine: Detroit Diesel 6V71N (later changed to 6V92TA DDEC) Transmission: Allison MT644 7700: 2B1139270F6001167 7701: 2B1139272F6001168 7702: 2B1139274F6001169 7703: 2B1139270F6001170 7704: 2B1139272F6001171 7705: 2B1139274F6001172 7706: 2B1139276F6001173 7707: 2B1139278F6001174 7708: 2B113927XF6001175 7709: 2B1139271F6001176 7710: 2B1139273F6001177 7711: 2B1139275F6001178 7712: 2B1139277F6001179 7713: 2B1139273F6001180 7714: 2B1139275F6001181 7715: 2B1139277F6001182 7716: 2B1139279F6001183 7717: 2B1139270F60
  18. Can anyone identify if this 1983 Orion I 01.502 owned by Roy McCullough is an ex-Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport Transportation bus? It sounds like it has a Detroit Diesel 6V92TA engine and Allison HT740 transmission. Thank you, Ben
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