Search the Community

The OCTA and its articles are in a serious need for updates because the fleet info is incomplete particularly because there are shuttle buses used for OCTA ACCESS Service that are not in the fleet. I have lived in Orange County, California for almost my entire life and this is the bus system where I had my first bus rides in 2015! The following details that must be added to the OCTA and its articles are: The OCTA was established in 1991 from the Orange County Transit District OCTA units 8501-8599 are 2014-2015 Glaval Buses built on a Ford F-450 Chassis OCTA units 8601-8700 series are 2017 StarCraft buses built on a Ford F-450 chassis OCTA routes 20, 51, 145, 187, 188, 191, 193, 410, 411, 430, 464, 490, 757, and 758 are discontinued Add OCTA routes 53X, 57X, 64X, 150, Bravo 543, and Bravo 560 OCTA units 8301-8364 were 1999 ElDorado National Aerotech buses built on a Ford F450 chassis. These buses were retired in 2008. OCTA units 6301-6312, 6400s, 6500s, 6600s, 6700s, and 6800s have been retired. OCTA units 6341-6345 OCTA units 5122, 5675, and 7575 have Near Zero ISL-G engines All 2007 New Flyer C40LFRs (5502-5599, 5601-5674, 7501-7528) have Cummins Westport ISL-G engines OCTA C40LFR build dates: 5501: September 2006 5502: March 2007 5505-5508: April 2007 5510-5530, 5540, 7529: May 2007 5536-5539, 5541-5542: June 2007 7501-7528: January 2008 7572: July 2008 7592: May 2008 OCTA XN40 build dates: 5702: January 2015 5753-5761: July 2016 5765-5775: August 2016 5852-5856: January 2017 5858: February 2017 OCTA NABI 40-LFW build dates: 2117: July 2000 2144-2160: August 2000 2201-2215: July 2001 2217-2270: August 2001 2277-2320: September 2001 2323-2372: October 2001 Units 2209, 2214-2215, 2217-2218, 2222, 2228, 2232-2233, 2237, 2243, 2248, 2254-2255, 2263, 2270, 2278, 2280-2281, 2287-2288, 2296, 2311, 2313, 2317, 2324, 2340-2341, 2345, 2349, and 2357 are active. All other 2200s and 2300s are retired. 1100s series Flxible New Looks have Detroit Diesel Allison V730 transmissions OCTA units 6351-6364 have Hanover Monochrome LED signs New Flyer D40LF units 5302, 5306, 5331, 5335, 5342, 5353-5354, 5362, 5376, 5387-5388, 5401, 5403, 5406, 5408-5412, and 5416 are presumed to be active. 1987 OCTD SuperBuses: 7001-7002 (White Motor Company WX42 trucks), 7501-7502 (Capre SuperBus trailers) 1993 OCTA SuperBuses: 7101-7110 (WhiteGMC WX42 trucks), 7601-7610 (SuperBus Trailers) 1997 ElDorado National Aerotech buses built on Ford Econoline chassis: units 8101-8191 1995 New Flyer D40LF units 5208 and 5241 tested two separate experimental OCTA paint schemes in 1999. 5208 had the two-stripe orange and blue 'Millennium Look' livery while 5241 had a mostly blue and white OCTA livery. OCTA unit 6031 was a 2008 ElDorado National E-Z Rider II BRT originally intended to replace the 1997-1998 E-Z Riders, but it was rejected. This bus supposedly had a Cummins Westport ISL G with an Allison Transmission B300R and Transit Sales International is presumed to have this bus on their website.

I’ve grown up in the Bay Area and nearly every part of it around me has its government run transit company operate Gillig buses except San Francisco’s Muni and the same thing goes for like Sacramento and Monterey but yeah I get the fact that the same transit companies use articulated buses from new flyer but I’m talking 40 foot buses so why is it that most california transit companies operate Gillig?

I haven't been on here in awhile but here are a few updates going on with CAT: Retired Vehicles *0406 has been returned to Coach Crafters. *All 3000s have been retired except 3005, 3007, and 3027. Those 3 units along with ALL 0600s have been rehabbed by Coach Crafters USA. *1002T-1006T, 1110T-1115T, 1118T, 1122T-1123T (Paratransit Fleet) have been retired. New Bus Orders *Gillig 35' Advantages #1830-1849 (1846-1847 are 29' Gillig Trolley replicas branded for the DOT Express Shuttle) have been delivered and in active service. *Funds were reprogrammed to order 6 All-Electric Gilligs (three 35' & three 40') as opposed to the 8 that were supposed to be piggybacked off of Charlotte Area Transit System's order. *Paratransit: 28 new paratransit cutaways numbered 1801-1828. Built on a GMC 4500 chassis with a 6.0L Gas Engine and the bodies are Glaval Titan II bodies. Routes: *The 8 Liberty Shuttle has been merged with the DOT Express shuttle only making the 5D.

This content additions page includes the following info that is to be added to Los Angeles Metro Bus and Rail articles, the LACMTA diesel Orions, as well as the former SCRTD. The LACMTA articles are in need for a serious update as it lacks the Metro Rail fleet roster. The following info that needs to be added are: LACMTA units 5300-5414 VINs are to be linked to New Flyer's 2000 model C40LF 'Y' VINs article LACMTA units 5415-5522 VINs are to be linked to New Flyer's 2001 model C40LF '1' VINs article LACMTA units 7980-7999 have been retired as of September 2017, but they still remain in LACMTA's property Units 5312, 5314-5315, 5318, 5335, 5342, 5349, 5379, 5385, 5389-5390, 5404, 5407, 5414, 5425, 5453, 5457, 5476, 5487, 5502, 5513-5514, 5517, and 5520-5522 retain Detroit Diesel Series 50G engines Division 18 has units 5342, 5349, and 5521 Division 9 has units 5382, 5452, 7342, 7350, 7376, 7483, and 7930 Active units from LACMTA's current fleet roster can be used by putting the fleet numbers (3100-3149, 3850-4199, 5300-5522, 5600-6149, 7000-8099, 8100-8400, 8401-8491, 8500-8649, 9200-9594, or 11001-11067) into the LACMTA vehicles search bar at the bottom of this page: https://www.transsee.ca/routelist?a=lametro A new page for LACMTA units 3300-3714 and 1100-1189 should be created by taking the VINs from Neoplan's AN440 'D' (1983), 'E' (1984), and 'H' (1987) VIN articles, which list these units as SCRTD 3300-3714 and SCRTD 1100-1189 LACMTA units 3000-3019 are built in June 1998 The article for LACMTA units 7525-7599 should have their VINs added and linked to NABI's 2005 model 40-LFW '5' VINs article The article for LACMTA units 7300-7514 and 7600-7949 should have their VINs added and linked to NABI's 2001 model 40-LFW '1' VINs article The article for LACMTA units 7000-7214 should have their VINs added and linked to NABI's 1999 and 2000 model 40-LFW 'X' and 'Y' VINs article, respectively The article for LACMTA units 8000-8099 should have their VINs added and linked to NABI's 2003 and 2004 model 45C-LFW '3' and '4' VINs article, respectively http://www.rapidtransit-press.com/transitsystems.html: Info from this link must be sent to articles relating to SCRTD and LACMTA, especially the ex-SCRTD GMC and TMC RTS buses that went to Transit Systems Unlimited. http://www.rapidtransit-press.com/mta.html: Info from this link must be sent to articles related to the LACMTA. http://www.webring.org/l/rd?ring=001bus;id=150;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.oocities.org%2F~buslist%2Findex.html: VINs for LACMTA's 1980-1981 GMC T8J-204s, 1982 T7J-204s, TMC 1988-1989, 1992 RTS-06s, 1988-1990, and 1992 Flxible Metros are found in this link. The Metro Rail roster composes of: 1989 Nippon Sharyo P865: Rail cars 100-138 1990 Nippon Sharyo P865: 139-153 1994 Nippon Sharyo P2020: 154-168 1991-1992 Breda A650 with DC motors: 501-530 1996-2000 Breda A650 with AC motors: 531-604 1996-1999 Siemens P2000: 201-226, 227-250, 301-302 2006-2011 Ansaldo Breda P2550: 701-750 2014-2020s KinkiSharyo P3010: 1000-1235

These are the latest additions that need to be updated on TARTA's wiki articles: - Units 3901-3913 (Ex-Greater Dayton Regional Transit Authority 2300s) are 2003 New Flyer D40LF buses - Units 500-537 have Allison B300R 5-speed transmissions, Luminator Horizon signs, and American Seating 6468 seats - TARTA's 2001 Nova Bus LFS vehicles have Allison Transmission B400Rs, Luminator Horizon signs, and American Seating 6468 seats - The standard 2012 Gillig BRT diesels from TARTA have Allison Transmission B400Rs and Luminator Horizon signs - An upcoming order of 11 buses are to be delivered in June 2018 - All buses in TARTA's fleet run on biodiesel fuel - TARTA units 2901-2903 (Ex-Metro RTA 1300s) have Detroit Diesel Series 40 engines with Allison Transmission B400Rs and Luminator Horizon signs. VINs for Metro RTA units 1300-1312 are: 5FYD2LN102U023577-5FYD2LN172U023589 - TARTA units 1900-1920 (Ex-COTA 2100s) have Detroit Diesel Series 40 engines, Luminator Horizon LED signs, and 39 American Seating 6468 seats - TARTA unit 700 was damaged in a front-end accident The rest of the information has to be done by looking up the bus agency TARTA on the internet, going to TARTA's Central Garage with special permission for a tour around their base, taking a ride on every type of TARTA bus in the fleet, and taking photos of TARTA buses not listed in the fleet roster for TARTA's CPTDB wiki articles. -

Sept 8, 2014 The council approved buying four new fixed-route buses last week for just less than $400,000 each. They’ll use the same fuel as the rest of the fleet. The buses can carry twice as many passengers as the 1997 models they’re replacing. They’ll be used on some of the city’s busiest routes where buses are crowded at peak hours, transportation planner Sam Trebilcock said. The new buses are 35 feet, six feet longer than the old models, and with just five more seats but much more standing room, they can carry 87 people instead of 42. It will be a year until they’re ready for service. -- Per the website, SAM operates 12 fixed routes and 4 school tripper routes http://www.siouxfalls.org/sam/fixed-routes.aspx

I live in Orlando, home of Lynx, and have been wondering for quite a while about a certain sound some of our Gilligs make. I have only specifically noticed it from our 2013-2014 35-foot hybrids, which I think are BAE. Others may do it too. You know the normal brief hissing sound of excess air being let out of the system? They do that. But they also make a sound of similar duration that, while similar to the hiss, has more of a tone to it for lack of a better word. It's sort of a high pitched noise that goes up in pitch as it progresses. It happens every so often, with no rhyme or reason. Kind of like the normal air hiss sound. I wish I had a recorded example. Does anyone have any clue what I'm talking about?

Came across this while browsing Reddit: Pic I was immediately able to identify it as an early Advantage from the wheel arches, lack of steps, and low windows. However, it has seen heavy modification beyond the double deck conversion: it has a new front clip which takes some parts from a New Flyer LF and headlights from a Ford Econoline van I've obviously identified to all that this bus is an Advantage, but if I hadn't, could you tell what it was? Especially for those who rarely see Gilligs or have never seen one. I originally thought it was a heavily modified D40LF until I looked at the side. Then I thought it was a Phantom with the windows moved down since I had no idea the Advantage came with these half-octagon wheel arches.

I've been doing a few trips after school to areas where Dumbarton Express runs. The service connects areas such as Palo Alto, Fremont, and Union City via the Dumbarton Bridge. At one point the majority of the fleet consisted of "piggy back ordered" 1992 Flxible Metro "C" 40102-6C Suburbans. Those are all retired, but now the fleet consists entirely of Gillig Phantoms (for now). If you haven't noticed, I've already started a wiki page for this service. http://www.cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php?title=Dumbarton_Express 2002 Gillig Phantom C29D102N4 Suburbans: Ex-SamTrans 2003 Gillig Phantom C20D102N4 Suburbans: Ex-SamTrans 1998 Gillig Phantom C21D102N4 (same as my profile picture): Ex-LADOT, Exx-Hertz 1996 Gillig Phantom 40102TBS50:

Please let me know whether or not these TriMet Gillig Phantom VINs are correct. They are simpler (at least) to figure out than the Flxible Metro VIN codes. 1990 GILLIG PHANTOM 40102TBL10 (VEHICLE #s 1401-1463) (delivered 9-10/1990) (Cummins LTA10-270B engine / Voith D863.2 transmission) 1401: 15GCD1214L1083713 1402: 15GCD1216L1083714 1403: 15GCD1218L1083715 1404: 15GCD121XL1083716 1405: 15GCD1211L1083717 1406: 15GCD1213L1083718 1407: 15GCD1215L1083719 1408: 15GCD1211L1083720 1409: 15GCD1213L1083721 1410: 15GCD1215L1083722 1411: 15GCD1217L1083723 1412: 15GCD1219L1083724 1413: 15GCD1210L1083725 1414: 15GCD1212L1083726 1415: 15GCD1214L1083727 1416: 15GCD1216L1083728 1417: 15GCD1218L1083729 1418: 15GCD1214L1083730 1419: 15GCD1216L1083731 1420: 15GCD1218L1083732 1421: 15GCD121XL1083733 1422: 15GCD1211L1083734 1423: 15GCD1213L1083735 1424: 15GCD1215L1083736 1425: 15GCD1217L1083737 1426: 15GCD1219L1083738 1427: 15GCD1210L1083739 1428: 15GCD1217L1083740 1429: 15GCD1219L1083741 1430: 15GCD1210L1083742 1431: 15GCD1212L1083743 1432: 15GCD1214L1083744 1433: 15GCD1216L1083745 1434: 15GCD1218L1083746 1435: 15GCD121XL1083747 1436: 15GCD1211L1083748 1437: 15GCD1213L1083749 1438: 15GCD121XL1083750 1439: 15GCD1211L1083751 1440: 15GCD1213L1083752 1441: 15GCD1215L1083753 1442: 15GCD1217L1083754 1443: 15GCD1219L1083755 1444: 15GCD1210L1083756 1445: 15GCD1212L1083757 1446: 15GCD1214L1083758 1447: 15GCD1216L1083759 1448: 15GCD1212L1083760 1449: 15GCD1214L1083761 1450: 15GCD1216L1083762 1451: 15GCD1218L1083763 1452: 15GCD121XL1083764 1453: 15GCD1211L1083765 1454: 15GCD1213L1083766 1455: 15GCD1215L1083767 1456: 15GCD1217L1083768 1457: 15GCD1219L1083769 1458: 15GCD1215L1083770 1459: 15GCD1217L1083771 1460: 15GCD1219L1083772 1461: 15GCD1210L1083773 1462: 15GCD1212L1083774 1463: 15GCD1214L1083775 For page: http://cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php?title=Gillig_Phantom_%27L_VINs%27'>http://cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php?title=Gillig_Phantom_%27L_VINs%27 1992 GILLIG PHANTOM 40102TBL10G (LNG) (VEHICLE #s 1464-1465) (delivered 7/1992) (Cummins GLTA10-240B engine / Voith D863.2 transmission) 1464: 15GCD1212N1083776 1465: 15GCD1214N1083777 For page: http://cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php?title=Gillig_Phantom_%27N_VINs%27 1990 GILLIG PHANTOM 30102TBL10 (VEHICLE #s 1601-1630) (delivered 10/1990) (Cummins LTA10-240B engine / Voith D863.2 transmission) 1601: 15GCA1219L1083778 1602: 15GCA1210L1083779 1603: 15GCA1217L1083780 1604: 15GCA1219L1083781 1605: 15GCA1210L1083782 1606: 15GCA1212L1083783 1607: 15GCA1214L1083784 1608: 15GCA1216L1083785 1609: 15GCA1218L1083786 1610: 15GCA121XL1083787 1611: 15GCA1211L1083788 1612: 15GCA1213L1083789 1613: 15GCA121XL1083790 1614: 15GCA1211L1083791 1615: 15GCA1213L1083792 1616: 15GCA1215L1083793 1617: 15GCA1217L1083794 1618: 15GCA1219L1083795 1619: 15GCA1210L1083796 1620: 15GCA1212L1083797 1621: 15GCA1214L1083798 1622: 15GCA1216L1083799 1623: 15GCA1219L1083800 1624: 15GCA1210L1083801 1625: 15GCA1212L1083802 1626: 15GCA1214L1083803 1627: 15GCA1216L1083804 1628: 15GCA1218L1083805 1629: 15GCA121XL1083806 1630: 15GCA1211L1083807 For page: http://cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php?title=Gillig_Phantom_%27L_VINs%27 1991 GILLIG PHANTOM 30102TBL10 (VEHICLE #s 1631-1643) (delivered 3/1991) (Cummins LTA10-240B engine / Voith D863.2 transmission) 1631: 15GCA1211M1083808 1632: 15GCA1213M1083809 1633: 15GCA121XM1083810 1634: 15GCA1211M1083811 1635: 15GCA1213M1083812 1636: 15GCA1215M1083813 1637: 15GCA1217M1083814 1638: 15GCA1219M1083815 1639: 15GCA1210M1083816 1640: 15GCA1212M1083817 1641: 15GCA1214M1083818 1642: 15GCA1216M1083819 1643: 15GCA1212M1083820 For page: http://cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php?title=Gillig_Phantom_%27M_VINs%27 1997 GILLIG PHANTOM C21D102N4 (VEHICLE #s 2101-2165) (delivered 1/1998) (Cummins M11-280E Plus engine) 2101: 15GCD211XV1088036 2102: 15GCD2111V1088037 2103: 15GCD2113V1088038 2104: 15GCD2115V1088039 2105: 15GCD2111V1088040 2106: 15GCD2113V1088041 2107: 15GCD2115V1088042 2108: 15GCD2117V1088043 2109: 15GCD2119V1088044 2110: 15GCD2110V1088045 2111: 15GCD2112V1088046 2112: 15GCD2114V1088047 2113: 15GCD2116V1088048 2114: 15GCD2118V1088049 2115: 15GCD2114V1088050 2116: 15GCD2116V1088051 2117: 15GCD2118V1088052 2118: 15GCD211XV1088053 2119: 15GCD2111V1088054 2120: 15GCD2113V1088055 2121: 15GCD2115V1088056 2122: 15GCD2117V1088057 2123: 15GCD2119V1088058 2124: 15GCD2110V1088059 2125: 15GCD2117V1088060 2126: 15GCD2119V1088061 2127: 15GCD2110V1088062 2128: 15GCD2112V1088063 2129: 15GCD2114V1088064 2130: 15GCD2116V1088065 2131: 15GCD2118V1088066 2132: 15GCD211XV1088067 2133: 15GCD2111V1088068 2134: 15GCD2113V1088069 2135: 15GCD211XV1088070 2136: 15GCD2111V1088071 2137: 15GCD2113V1088072 2138: 15GCD2115V1088073 2139: 15GCD2117V1088074 2140: 15GCD2119V1088075 2141: 15GCD2110V1088076 2142: 15GCD2112V1088077 2143: 15GCD2114V1088078 2144: 15GCD2116V1088079 2145: 15GCD2112V1088080 2146: 15GCD2114V1088081 2147: 15GCD2116V1088082 2148: 15GCD2118V1088083 2149: 15GCD211XV1088084 2150: 15GCD2111V1088085 2151: 15GCD2113V1088086 2152: 15GCD2115V1088087 2153: 15GCD2117V1088088 2154: 15GCD2119V1088089 2155: 15GCD2115V1088090 2156: 15GCD2117V1088091 2157: 15GCD2119V1088092 2158: 15GCD2110V1088093 2159: 15GCD2112V1088094 2160: 15GCD2114V1088095 2161: 15GCD2116V1088096 2162: 15GCD2118V1088097 2163: 15GCD211XV1088098 2164: 15GCD2111V1088099 2165: 15GCD2114V1088100 (first 60 buses delivered with Voith D863.3 transmission; last 5 buses delivered with Allison B400R transmission) For page: http://cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php?title=Gillig_Phantom_%27V_VINs%27 ~Ben

Would anyone happen to know the exact VIN numbers for the Santa Barbara MTD Gillig Phantoms built in 1981 (units 242-256) and 1984 (units 257-276)? Units 242-256 are 1981 model 35/96T/6V92s while 257-276 are 1984 model 40TB/96/6V92s. ~Ben

According to the September 1985 issue of Bus Ride magazine (most of their September issues were about reviews of the latest buses and thus devoted specifications of them), Gillig had been commissioned by Britain's Leyland Bus (which had wanted to get its product sold in the U.S.) to market and perform final assembly of their popular Olympian double-decker bus for the North American market, but the deal didn't get very far. ~Ben

I note most of the rosters have the "generic" Gillig designations of "Phantom" for high floor and "Advantage" for low floor. Since figuring out Gillig "real" model designations is very easy from a VIN, such as "G27D102N4" for a 40-foot lowfloor, and tells what engine it has, why not use them when available? Here is how to decode: VIN is for Cyride (Ames IA) 0819: 15G - Gillig GD27 - G27D (lowfloor, (hifloor is "C"), 40 foot, (30 is A, 35 is B, 29 is E), ISM engine [need to look that up, but these numbers are the engine code! 30 is a hybrid]) Suffix N4 is air brakes, R2 is hydraulic (29-footers only) Anybody have any full serials for theold Spirits handy? Never have seen a proper model on them...

Were there any Orion I's produced from 1982 to 1986 (when specified with the Detroit Diesel 6V92TA engine and the Allison MT644, HT740 or HT747 transmission) that sounded closer to a Gillig Phantom built in those same years mentioned? They can be of any length (30' for 01.502 or 01.503, 35' for 01.506 or 01.507, and 40' for 01.508 or 01.509). ~Ben

Does anyone have some recent information about Mendocino Transit's (a.k.a. MTA) bus fleet? They bought a couple 1982 Gillig Phantoms when they were brand new, but that is all the CPTDB Wiki has to offer. There are a couple pictures online featuring some of the fleet, which are Gillig Phantoms with roll signs (unknown manufacturing dates), Gillig Advantages, and Ford's. They are located in Ukiah, CA.

Is there anyone out there who tried to use an 8V71N or 8V92TA engine in place of the 6V92TA in a 1981-1986 Gillig Phantom? The reason I'm asking this is because I know there actually were a few MCI MC-9 motorcoaches that used the 6V92TA engine originally and then later an 8V71N or 8V92TA is used as a replacement engine in those same coach(es). But what I want to know is if anyone tried to do the same thing in a Gillig Phantom. And if anyone has done this, I'd like to know whether or not such a wet dream as this has been successful. ~Ben

Some new VINs for you... and of the least likely of all buses... the Gillig Phantom Transit Coach school buses. Let's see if you can identify which school district (in San Jose, CA) operated these Gilligs bearing these VINs. Source: http://www.heavytruckparts.net/search.php?qsearch=TRUE&ManufMake=ALLISON&Model=HT747&PartID=4000 15GAD0915G1030032 (1986 model; DD 6V92TA engine and Allison HT747 transmission) 15GAD0915H1030243 (1987 model; DD 6V92TA engine and Allison HT747 transmission) 15GAD0912H1030247 (1987 model; DD 6V92TA engine and Allison HT747 transmission) 15GAD0919H1030262 (1987 model; DD 6V92TA engine and Allison HT747 transmission) 15GAD0912J1030383 (1988 model; DD 6V92TA engine and Allison HT747 transmission) 15GAD0914J1030384 (1988 model; DD 6V92TA engine and Allison HT747 transmission) 15GAD0918K1030423 (1989 model; DD 6V92TA engine and Allison HT747 transmission) ~Ben

New VINs to be added to these links: http://cptdb.ca/wiki...om_%27N_VINs%27 (Gillig Phantom "N" VINs) http://cptdb.ca/wiki...om_%27V_VINs%27 (Gillig Phantom "V" VINs) http://cptdb.ca/wiki...or_%272_VINs%27 (Gillig Low Floor "2" VINs) Here are some of those VINs, according to this source: http://torrance.gran...&meta_id=202991 445: 15GCD0919N1084620 446: 15GCD0910N1084621 449: 15GCD0916N1084624 451: 15GCD091XN1084626 455: 15GCD0911N1084630 457: 15GCD0915N1084632 459: 15GCD0919N1084634 460: 15GCD091XN1084710 463: 15GCD0911N1084725 464: 15GCD0913N1084726 468: 15GCD2016V1088018 469: 15GCD2018V1088019 470: 15GCD2014V1088020 471: 15GCD2016V1088021 472: 15GCD2018V1088022 490: 15GGD271621072761 ~Ben

Here's the list of Gillig Phantoms operated by Fresno Area Express (FAX) that could use some validity. 9101-9112 Model: 40102TB6V92TAC Engine: Detroit Diesel 6V92TAC Transmission: Voith D863.2 9101: 15GCD0912M1083887 9102: 15GCD0914M1083888 9103: 15GCD0916M1083889 9104: 15GCD0912M1083890 9105: 15GCD0914M1083891 9106: 15GCD0916M1083892 9107: 15GCD0918M1083893 9108: 15GCD091XM1083894 9109: 15GCD0911M1083895 9110: 15GCD0913M1083896 9111: 15GCD0915M1083897 9112: 15GCD0917M1083898 For page: http://cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php?title=Gillig_Phantom_%27M_VINs%27 9301-9320 Model: 40102TBL10E Engine: Cummins L10-280E CELECT Transmission: Voith D863.2 9301: 15GCD1214P1084818 9302: 15GCD1216P1084819 9303: 15GCD1212P1084820 9304: 15GCD1214P1084821 9305: 15GCD1216P1084822 9306: 15GCD1218P1084823 9307: 15GCD121XP1084824 9308: 15GCD1211P1084825 9309: 15GCD1213P1084826 9310: 15GCD1215P1084827 9311: 15GCD1217P1084828 9312: 15GCD1219P1084829 9313: 15GCD1215P1084830 9314: 15GCD1217P1084831 9315: 15GCD1219P1084832 9316: 15GCD1210P1084833 9317: 15GCD1212P1084834 9318: 15GCD1214P1084835 9319: 15GCD1216P1084836 9320: 15GCD1218P1084837 For page: http://cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php?title=Gillig_Phantom_%27P_VINs%27 9401-9412 Model: M11T40102 Engine: Cummins M11-280E CELECT Transmission: Voith D863.2 9401: 15GCD211XR1085529 9402: 15GCD2116R1085530 9403: 15GCD2118R1085531 9404: 15GCD211XR1085532 9405: 15GCD2111R1085533 9406: 15GCD2113R1085534 9407: 15GCD2115R1085535 9408: 15GCD2117R1085536 9409: 15GCD2119R1085537 9410: 15GCD2110R1085538 9411: 15GCD2112R1085539 9412: 15GCD2119R1085540 For page: http://cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php?title=Gillig_Phantom_%27R_VINs%27 9601-9606 Model: S50T40102 Engine: Detroit Diesel S50-275 DDEC Transmission: Voith D863.3 9601: 15GCD2019T1087023 9602: 15GCD2010T1087024 9603: 15GCD2012T1087025 9604: 15GCD2014T1087026 9605: 15GCD2016T1087027 9606: 15GCD2018T1087028 For page: http://cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php?title=Gillig_Phantom_%27T_VINs%27 9701-9714 Model: C21D102N4 Engine: Cummins M11-280E CELECT Plus Transmission: Voith D863.3 9701: 15GCD2115V1088297 9702: 15GCD2117V1088298 9703: 15GCD2119V1088299 9704: 15GCD2111V1088300 9705: 15GCD2113V1088301 9706: 15GCD2115V1088302 9707: 15GCD2117V1088303 9708: 15GCD2119V1088304 9709: 15GCD2110V1088305 9710: 15GCD2112V1088306 9711: 15GCD2114V1088307 9712: 15GCD2116V1088308 9713: 15GCD2118V1088309 9714: 15GCD2114V1088310 For page: http://cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php?title=Gillig_Phantom_%27V_VINs%27 Thank you, Ben

Here is a VIN for one of the Gillig BRT buses for TriMet. 2012 Gillig G27D102N4 BRT (3001-3055) 3001: 15GGD271XC1181001 If anyone has more info on the VINs for the Gillig BRT buses for TriMet, you're welcome to post it. Stalwart23 (aka Nolan Kolmel)

Would anyone happen to know all about the VIN system Gillig used for its buses since September 1, 1980? This includes the Phantom transit bus, the Phantom school bus (or "transit coach"), the older style "transit coach" (school bus, 1980-82 models), the Spirit midibus and the Advantage low-floor bus. 1ST DIGIT: COUNTRY OF ORIGIN 1 = United States of America 4 = same (incomplete vehicle) 2ND-3RD DIGITS: MANUFACTURER 5G = Gillig Corporation 6G = Gillig Corporation (incomplete vehicle) 4TH DIGIT: MODEL SERIES A = school bus (or "transit coach") B = utility bus C = Phantom, Spirit (transit bus) D = Phantom (suburban bus) E = incomplete vehicle F = shuttle bus G = Advantage (low floor) 5TH DIGIT: BODY LENGTH A = 30 foot B = 35 foot C = 37 foot (school bus) D = 40 foot (or incomplete vehicle) E = 27 foot (Spirit) 6TH-7TH DIGITS: ENGINE TYPE 01 = Caterpillar 3208NA (200 hp) (1980-1982, 1986-1990) 02 = Caterpillar 3208T (210 hp) (1986-1990) 03 = Caterpillar 3208T (225 hp) (1986-1990) 04 = Caterpillar 3208 (636 cu. in.) (1990-1991) 05 = Cummins NHHTCC (855 cu. in.) (1980-1982) 06 = DD 6-71N/T (426 cu. in.) (1980-1982) 07 = DD 6V53N & 6V53T (318 cu. in.) (1980-1984) 08 = DD 6V92TAC (552 cu. in.) (260 hp) (1981-1983) 09 = DD 6V92TA/TAC (552 cu. in.) (1982-1994) 10 = Chevrolet 427 (gas V8) (1982-1997) 11 = DD 8.2L "Fuel Pincher" (500 cu. in.) (1982-1990) 12 = Cummins L10, L10E & L10G (611 cu. in.) (1984-1998) 13 = Ford 460 (gas V8) (1984-1990) 14 = DD 6V71N/TA (426 cu. in.) (1984-1988) 15 = Caterpillar 3116 (403 cu. in.) (1990-1997) 16 = Caterpillar 3176 (629 cu. in.) (1990-1997) 17 = DD 8V92TA (736 cu. in.) (1990-1996) 18 = Cummins C8.3, C8.3E, C8.3G & ISC (504.5 cu. in.) (1990-2003) 19 = Cummins B5.9, B5.9G & ISB (359 cu. in.) (1990-2006) 20 = DD Series 50 & 50G (510 cu. in.) (1993-2004) 21 = Cummins M11E & ISM (661 cu. in.) (1994-2009) 22 = DD Series 40E (8.7 liter/530 cu. in.) (1995-2003) 23 = DD Series 60 (12.7 liter/778 cu. in.) (1996-2003) 24 = Caterpillar 3126 & C7 (439 cu. in.) (1998-2009) 25 = Caterpillar C12 (12.0 liter/729 cu. in.) (2001-2009) 26 = DD Series 40E (7.6 liter/466 cu. in.) (2001-2003) 27 = Cummins ISL (540 cu. in.) (2001-2003) 28 = electric motor/fuel cell 29 = Cummins ISL (330 hp) (2004-present) 30 = Cummins ISB (6.7 liter/409 cu. in.) (2007-present) 8TH DIGIT: BRAKE SYSTEM 1 = Air 2 = Hydraulic 10TH DIGIT: MODEL YEAR A = 1980 B = 1981 C = 1982 D = 1983 (and you know all the rest, skipping the letters I, O, Q and U) 11TH DIGIT: PLANT OF ASSEMBLY 1 = 25800 Clawiter Rd., Hayward, CA 94545 2 = 1010 Industrial Loop, Hillsboro, TX 76645 12TH-17TH DIGITS: SERIAL NUMBER BLOCKS 030000-037999 = school bus (class 7 or 8), utility bus Definition: School Bus Style (class 7 or 8) 038000-040000 = heavy duty chassis w/dual rear axle, w/9,072-20,412 KG (20-45,000 lbs.) suspension (incomplete vehicles) Definition: GVW 15,876 KG (35,000 lbs.) or over (class 8) 040001-050000 = heavy duty chassis w/single rear axle, w/9,979-11,340 KG (22-25,000 lbs.) suspension (incomplete vehicles) Definition: GVW 11,739 KG (25,880 lbs.) or over (class 6-8) 050001-059999 = medium duty chassis w/6,804-9,978 KG (15-21,999 lbs.) suspension (incomplete vehicles) Definition: GVW 8,618-15,422 KG (19-34,000 lbs.) (class 5-8) 060000-069999 = light duty chassis (incomplete vehicles) Definition: GVW under 8,618 KG (19,000 lbs.) (class 5) 070000-079999 = transit bus (low floor) Definition: 9.14 meters (30 feet) & over length (class 7-8), one step entry 080000-089999 & 110000-129999 = transit bus, suburban bus (except low floor) Definition: 9.14 meters (30 feet) & over length (class 7-8), three step entry 090001-090240 = shuttle bus (not low floor) Definition: Aluminum body structure (class 6-8), three step entry 090250-109999 = bus (low floor) Definition: Less than 9.14 meters (30 feet) length (class 6-8), one step entry CLASSIFICATION OF 4TH VIN DIGIT A = School bus. Sold for school bus usage. B = Utility bus. School bus style, but not used as school bus. C = City transit bus. Transit bus without high backed seats, not low-floor - 3 step entry (aluminum, steel or stainless body structure) D = City suburban bus. Transit bus with high backed seats, not low-floor - 3 step entry E = Incomplete vehicle. An assemblage consisting as a minimum of frame and chassis structure, powertrain, steering system, suspension system, and braking system. F = Shuttle bus. Bus used for shuttle service with aluminum body structure, not low-floor - 3 step entry G = City transit bus/low floor. Transit bus with or without high backed seats - low floor - 1 step entry EXAMPLE VIN: 15GCA121_L1083782 VIN: 1 5 G C A 1 2 1 _ L 1 0 8 3 7 8 2Value: 1 5 7 3 1 1 2 1 0 3 1 0 8 3 7 8 2Weight: 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 10 0 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2Products: 8 35 42 15 4 3 4 10 0 27 8 0 48 15 28 24 4The sum of all parts in this example is 275, so after dividing the sum by 11, the check digit is 0 which gives us a complete VIN of 15GCA1210L1083782. Using the above charts, these break down as: 15G = world manufacturer identifier (Gillig Corporation - bus) C = City transit bus A = 30 foot body length 12 = Cummins L10 engine (diesel) 1 = air brakes 0 = check digit L = model year 1990 1 = assembled in Hayward, CA 083782 = serial number (in block defining transit/suburban bus except low floor) Thank you, Ben Edge