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    Gainesville Regional Transit System, Florida

    This was on sale https://www.ebay.com/itm/Gillig-/323796670130?oid=192476317375&nma=true&si=3Xcvo9k5Cqdj0w8ztIc2soBG1VQ%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 Gillig and Nova are both overdue for a facelift, but glad they still offer these old style low floors.
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    Sarasota County Area Transit

    Okay, time for me to usher in more information this time for SCAT in South Florida. Before I get into anything big, let me start with SCAT's preserved bus. The bus is 6403 (ex-1125 from City of St. Petersburg Municipal Transit System), a 1964 GMC TDH-4519. A picture of this bus does exist on the internet by the way. The Orion Is built in 1993 use Detroit Diesel Series 92 engines and likely Allison HT transmissions. I found a video showing all three of these buses in action along with the Orion Vs. The 1991s (30 footers) most likely used the same engine and transmission setup. The 1994 Orion Vs also used the Detroit Diesel Series 92 engines and the same Allison transmissions the Orion Is have. The Orion Vs are numbered 9401-9407 and just like 9301-9303, they were also 35 feet long. SCAT also had 1997 35 foot Gillig Phantoms numbered 9720-9730 (around 12 of these were built, so I'm not sure if it's 9731 or 9719). These buses used Cummins M11 engines and Allison B400R transmissions. The Orions and the 1997 Phantoms used American Seating 6468 seating and have wheelchair lifts. I'm not sure what destination signs they used, but the Orion Is, Vs, and the 1997 Gillig Phantoms were retrofitted with TwinVision destination signs (likely the TwinVision Amber LED). I'm not sure what destination signs they used before being retrofitted. This is all for now. Hope this helps improve things for that page.
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    Votran Update

    A little update for Votran in Volusia County, Florida. Votran did in fact have 40 foot Flyer D901A-10240s. Numbered 301-305, these were 1981 air conditioned models. I don't know what powertrain they had, but I assume they had 6V92TAs and Allison V730 transmission. I don't know when the 6V92TA was introduced, but it does seem it was available back then. They were retired in 1997 by the Nova RTS buses that came in. They were actually retired in 1994, but reactivated several times, because of service increases. These articles from the Orlando Sentinel talks about them to some degree. http://articles.orla...buses-new-buses http://articles.orla...mmittee-florida http://articles.orla...buses-new-buses All of the Flxibles built in 1983 had 6V92TAs and Allison V730 transmission. The 1990 Flxibles is the same story except they had Allison V731 transmissions. The 1994s had Detroit Diesel Series 50 engines and Allison V731s.
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    Metro Transit

    I added information on buses that were retired and auctioned off by MTC in 1985 and 1988. Yeah I do have sources to support what I posted via Google links (for the 1985 auction) and a magazine that I have which has an ad for buses going up for auction on February 3, 1988. I also added the renumbered buses that were rebuilt by Midwest Bus (which I found out the rebuilder was originally suppose to be Dickenson Lines and it was for 175 buses; 82 GMCs and 93 Flxible New Looks). Several AMGs and 1974 Flxibles were painted in the new paint scheme in the 80s, but were not rebuilt. Just painted to look good and same story for the 1966 TDH-5303s, which were not part of the rebuild, just 82 1963-1965 TDH-5303s and 58 1971 Flxibles (15 D6-1s and 43 D5-1s). Red colored buses were still running into the early 90s, with the remaining red buses being mostly AMGs, 1974 Flxibles, and some 1971-72 Flxibles that weren't replaced between 1985-1989. Also found out the 1971 Flxibles that had 6v71s used VH-9s. The rebuilt buses had power steering, what I assume are Vultron destination signs, body work done on them, overhauled or new power packs, and working AC (for the Flxibles only). All of these buses retired between 1994-1995 by the Gillig Phantoms, but I have a feeling some were still running as late as 1996 wearing RTB logos on them for contract services. Also the 1994 New Flyer D60s replaced all 20 1978 AMG/MAN artics.
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    Chicago Area Random Transit Buses

    208 is Ex-656 from Lynx. It was auctioned off in 2017 missing it's ZF transmission. 166 came from Palm Tran and it's 1999. The serial number on the Gillig next to 166 is 15GGD2111X1070870, indicating it's also a 1999 Advantage from Palm Tran.
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    The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    Those shots are awesome showing the good times.
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    Palm Tran update

    The roster needs a bit of an update, so here is what I got. The Flxibles Palm Tran bought new, including the 1982 Grummans all made it into the Palm Tran era. The TMC Citycrusiers were built between 1979-1980. 800-805 were built in December of 1979, while 806-814 were built in January of 1980, 815-828 were built in February of 1980, and finally 829-839 March of 1980. http://www.oocities.org/~buslist/TMC_TC30/TMC_T30.html These buses used 6v53T engines and Allison MT-643s. The City Birds were built in 1982 and had the same engine and transmission set up as the TMC Citycrusiers. Both the TMCs and City Birds made it into the Palm Tran era, but were fully retired in 1996 by the Gillig Phantoms.
  8. I'm not sure if anyone is aware of this, but this is an old ABC Companies inventory that lists all the buses they had for sale back in 2008 via the wayback machine. https://web.archive.org/web/20080829205409/http://www.abc-companies.com:80/inventoryResults.asp The MC-12's VINs have all been added already. The majority of these buses for sale on this list are Van Hools and a small number of MCIs.
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    Palm Tran update

    Just another example why I'm not active on transit forums, cause of individuals who think Wikipedia is all correct, individuals who outright don't listen the first few times after being told something, and some who are straight up inept. Arguing with men in their 20s-50s with massive egos isn't healthy and can make your hairline recede. Moving away from the trash that I don't care about, Palm Tran sold all, but 960 to Gainesville in early 2005. Those 1995 Flxible Metros. The buses were out of service by late 2004, so they only had a 9 year career there. 960 joined its sisters in 2007 along with the 30ft Phantoms. Amazingly, the 30ft Flxibles Palm Tran sold to Puerto Rico may still be kicking around.
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    Palm Tran update

    Considering some of the stuff I've been hearing about certain individuals who post over there, Subchat is tolerable as the trolls that were once there are gone. I won't go into details about what I've been finding out as it's pretty off topic as it is, but I'm glad the shenanigans are limited to mostly the northeast and a few individuals across the country. Melvin Bernero shot of an Ex-Palm Tran Advantage operating from Aries. They have several of these buses, including 40ft units from the 9900 series, which replaced the used Grummans Palm Tran had.
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    Palm Tran update

    Unfortunately yes. I normally don't go off topic, but the only good things that came out of me being there. One I met some really cool guys and two I learned a lot about people too. Things that I didn't need to know that is.
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    Palm Tran update

    How is he wrong, when he and a few users have already pointed out that Palm Tran isn't investing in CNG buses? What part of that is there not to understand? Plus I ride Lynx and the CNG tag is on those buses, so they're CNG. I see no CNG tag on Palm Tran's units, so they for the last time are not CNG.
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    Palm Tran update

    Are you going to stop making meaningless posts across the forum, when the answers to your questions are already in the thread and on the wiki itself? If so, the answer to your question is no they're not getting Advantages for the time being.
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    Chicago Area Random Transit Buses

    You did a really good job finding out where those buses went and who owned them originally. I also discovered a few more buses that went to Aires as well, via license plates. I got the serials from them. 129 is Ex-Palm Tran 029 and 163 is Ex-Palm Tran 9915. I also have VIN numbers for 142 and 144. I also can confirm there is indeed a 202 for the Ex-Lynx BRTs, as I had to really look closer to make sure for the images on the Chicago Transit Forum.
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    Palm Tran update

    Seeing Palm Tran retire all those Advantages and BRTs so soon. Reminds me of when they had all those used Flxibles, along with the Flxibles they bought new under Cotran. They ran those buses for almost 15-20 years. A contrast to what Palm Tran use to do back then. The TMC Citycrusiers built 1979-1980 lasted until 1996 running on the Tri-Rail shuttles. 16 of those buses were rehabbed for the service in 1990, after Cotran fired Holland Industries due to poor reliability of their buses on the shuttle service. https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1290&dat=19900907&id=l_hTAAAAIBAJ&sjid=TY0DAAAAIBAJ&pg=3894,2489741&hl=en
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    The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    You also gotta thank Bob Hussey and Dave Colton as well. Bob took the shots and Dave uploaded them onto that site. Complete Coach Works in California did the refurbishment on those Flxible New Look buses between 1983-1985. They look smart in that new scheme too.
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    The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    I hope this gives you guys something to talk about without this thread going quiet. https://public.fotki.com/esbdave/us-transit/hawaii-transit-agencies/honolulu/
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    Gainesville Regional Transit System, Florida

    Must of sucked to lose those two artics. Had they arrived, they would of lasted a little longer compared to their brief service life with Miami. Yeah ISL/L9 are the only engines availble unless you consider Volvo D13 or DD13s (Mercedez Benz engine with Detroit Diesel badge), but those are for motorcoach applications and I'm sure Gainesville has no routes that are good for motorcoaches as far as I know. As far as I know, all of Lynx's Phantoms from 1994-2005 used Thermo King. Lynx learned it's lesson after issues with Sutrak AC on the Orion IIs and Vs and they've never gotten anything else since then.
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    Gainesville Regional Transit System, Florida

    Were these the buses in question that were wrecked? I wonder if this is the only time Gainesville ever bought buses from Miami?
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    Gainesville Regional Transit System, Florida

    Did not know they purchased two MDT American Ikarus artics only for them to get in an accident. Then again that's Miami for you lol. Any idea on the exact units? It's too bad they didn't get them intact, cause they would of been of use to Gainesville. Buying used artics would probably make sense, but I'm not sure how Gainesville would do with handling old Series 50 engines which are on their way out as we know. They could get Neoplan artics from Bee-Line or NJT, but once again a few problems. One you have to consider parts for Neoplans will be tough to find (company has been gone for 12 years), two well Caterpillar or Series 60 engines aren't really tough to maintain but are new to Gainesville though, and the operation issues with artics as both of you have outlined is present. As for Lynx, they're strange in their own ways when it comes to bus retirements. Before they use to sell off the best performing buses and kept the poor performers (with exceptions like 381-394 which were all lemons to Lynx and they got retired after just 8 years two of which didn't make it to 8 years). You also have to consider that Lynx might end up retiring just 29ft and 35ft buses rather then 40ft buses, since they have stated they planned on keeping 40ft buses a little longer. Some of the 35ft buses look tired inside (cracked rear floors, worn out seats, body damage from vehicles on the outside) and others look good. Have not ridden a 29ft bus yet, but they're hardly used on most routes these days except for Link 6. Most of the time, the 29ft buses are in training service or driver shuttles from LCS to LOC. I caught two 29ft buses on the 436S not too long ago, much to my shock and everyone else.
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    Disney Transport general discussion

    I hope you're enjoying retirement and doing well for yourself. Disney hasn't placed an order for new buses for some time now, but as you know they have new monorails from Bombardier coming in. Everything else with other projects they're doing is happening.
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    Disney Transport general discussion

    I took this in the 2D view for Google Maps.
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    Disney Transport general discussion

    Since my curiosity irked today and just for old times sake, I decided to check out Disney's bus depot via Google Maps. From what I can see, they still have several RTS buses parked there. Their numbers have been marked off and the Disney logos removed. What their physical and mechanical condition is I have no clue, but they're still there. Why they're still, only the drivers and Disney themselves know.
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    Gainesville Regional Transit System, Florida

    Not sure when, but the New Flyers may arrive early the next year, just like the 2016 Gilligs did. As for which buses will retire, it really depends on which bus is performing poorly when it comes to MDBF (yeah Lynx has those as I've found that out several years ago). Has Gainesville given any consideration to articulated buses? I'll won't be surprised if the two NABiI artics end up surplus in the near future, since they are hardly seen nowadays.
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    Metro Transit

    I'm not sure if anyone knows about this, but here is a long gallery of bus shots posted by Esbdave during the MTC era in 1987 and a few shots taken in 1991. Most of the vintage shots (like 99% of them) were taken by Bob Hussey. I hope these pictures helps out the wiki to the fullest extant when it comes to the retired stuff. https://public.fotki.com/esbdave/us-transit/minnesota-transit-a/minneapolis/
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