cleowin

I hope the Nova LFS 2nd gen's are the first to go, but it'll likely be the D/C40LFR's

Isnt RTC at capacity? I figured they can hold around 200 vehicles

These must be purely expansion since no d40lf’s are left in rtc

Surrey would be operating a small sub-fleet of Nova's, and Nova's are not expected to goto STC. I'd just simply move all 47 XN40's to STC which retires all the LF's I'd then send the remaining 29 LFS's to HTC in exchange for 29 HEV's.

That would make alot of sense actually, surrey is more flat than PTC area, so that's not a horrible idea

HTC will end up with about 95 HEV's by the end of all the transfers. About 59 XN40's / 95 HEV's. I'm not really sure what the plan is regarding the XN40 order slated for HTC originally. I guess they give HTC 47 2019 XN40's and then transfer out 47 older ones to STC to replace the remaining D40LF's?

with RTC officially without any D40LF's, HTC has about 16 left, and there still about 17 Nova HEV's left to enter service, so id say less than a month and HTC will be all HEV/XN40. The total # of hev's at HTC will probably be 96-97 once everything is said and done. With that being said, i think the 2019 XN40 order will goto STC. IF they goto HTC, then htc will probably transfer out 47 older XN40's to STC to retire the rest of STC's D40LF's, but D40LF's will be exclusive out of STC for a few months!

I saw 2275 parked at Metrotown Station, but it was strangely a E40LF.. with sweep livery , it displayed 19 Stanley Park on the front and Arbutus on the side.

I keep hearing surrey isnt getting nova’s, And richmond is getting flooded with them. also, vtc is slated to have no pure diesels left soon, so the 29 remaining lfs’s would likely goto RTC. What other vehicles apart from xn40’s are going to stc to replace the remaining 37 d40lf’s? My guess is artics & xd40’s its unlikely that htc transfers out existing xn40’s to stc, so xd40 to stc is really the only option also, having a small micro fleet of say 25-35 nova’s is impractical when its orions / new flyer vehicles at STC the only other option i can see is HTC swaps all of its HEV’s with STC’s d40lfr’s which would retire the remaining D40LF’s, and if one of HTC’s routes get upgraded to artics, then they could replace the 40 foot deficit with new artics coming in

Id upgrade the 119 to Artics and even the 130 if possible. Here's my new 'projected fleet summary' for end of 2019 if this is indeed true! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QATxfcSBCNxTo69ScBB5o1OXoG2Vt43TKmfDn0N5h_4/edit?usp=sharing

I heard the opposite, every route in the system is being trolleyized, and every artic route is being reduced to 40 footers and we're bringing back all the E901/2A's into service.. and we're retiring all of our Xcelsior buses!

See, this is why we need XD60's.... XDE60's shouldnt be the only vehicles TL orders

I'm going to guess these units will be slated for BTC, and the remaining DE60LFR's / 2015 / 2016 XDE60's will be shipped elsewhere?

I heard 9582 was transferred to STC, but when I went to look for it, it doesnt exist ; )

Isnt the plan to make VTC completely alternate energy? VTC is still going to have approximately 25-30 LFS left after the 2018 order is complete. SO why not send HTC HEV's to VTC to push out the rest of the LFS to RTC? RTC clearly is staying diesel for 40 footers. No plans to allocate any nova's to STC, so what options are there? I really dont see why they are even giving HTC the 2019 XN40 order when it would make more sense to simply assign the 2019 XN40 strictly to STC