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  1. Thanks for that. Nice video. I assume the machine at the top-right has a red filter to get the text to look that colour? I also noticed how quickly the numbers change without fading. I have never seen a Nixie tube display in person so I had no idea. Thought it would fade like a light bulb. I will definitely keep my eyes open on Kijiji or other places like estate sales if those are around. I don't have any electronics projects lined up (and haven't for years) but I'll find something if I can make use of a beautiful machine like that! Oh ok. I don't have any devices compatible with the X-10 (at least to my knowledge) so I wouldn't be able to test if this thing still works. It was a bit dirty when I got it. I wonder. How did they keep a machine like this from turning off your neighbours appliances? I see. You'd think instructors would simply ask the mechanics if there's something they don't know. LOL thanks for that info. I haven't been to HCRR in nearly 20 years. I rode a couple Witts there a few times but they never made that motor whining sound. Does that series-limit have to do with that? The montreal suburban car and the snow plow I rode there once were pretty fast. Hard to believe those were in series. I imagine they have the old style controller as well. Do they even bring those cars out to ride anymore, by the way? I also remember riding the Rail Grinder (the old single truck one) but that wasn't going very fast.
  2. Does that Philips multimeter work just as any old multimeter you'd buy at Canadian Tire or The Source? If so, I am DEFINITELY getting me one of those. That is the coolest thing I've ever seen. And you must have been running red lights to get that deal before someone else scooped it up. It looks like it's worth a lot more than just $10 bucks. Sad to think that if that went that cheap, then there must be countless other vintage gems out there that people just threw away because no one wanted them. I never heard of VFD. I always thought it was an early colour of LED but it has a very unique look to it. Is that the same thing that is on this X-10 unit? My friend's calculator may have been a SHARP brand, I can't remember. Basically the same display as an older printing calculator but without the printing. The buttons on those old calculators probably were designed to alert your teacher or professor if you were using one on a test when you weren't suppose to. They remind me of those old Jerrold converter box remotes. So tactile you need two fingers to depress the buttons. I never hooked up anything to the controller. In fact, I don't think anything is supposed to hook up directly to it. I think it sends signals to whatever device it is controlling through the power lines. I found it in a random box of stuff I bought for maybe $7. Just thought it looked cooler than my $40 Dream Machine LOL. Keeps time perfectly I might add. It actually sets time faster than any clock radio I have ever seen. LMAO touche. I see you've used a PCC streetcar reference next to electronic testing equipment. Pretty slick. Don't let anyone from HCRR see this post. Was that brake theory an actual foamer theory that you heard? Hopefully not from a mechanic.
  3. man that multimeter looks sweet. As for the foam, I'm guessing the "4500" on the calculator. Speaking of which, I think one of my classmates brought one of those old HP calculators to class but it had those old blue LEDs. Did HP make any like that? Maybe it was a different brand. I like that type of display as much as nixie tubes. I use an old BSR X-10 unit as a desk clock.
  4. That's some next level game right there.
  5. For those who don't know, he did the music for the Price Is Right, the old Chain Reaction (which was actually the theme from the defunct show Supertrain) and also the music for the original $25,000 Pyramid. RIP
  6. Come on, those are some solid pick up lines. -Girl you look so good you make it go from an L2 to an L3! -Girl you look so good I'd charter you just to get in your carhouse. -Girl if UTDC made anything prettier I hope they kept it for themselves.
  7. Some of these people demanding vehicles to be preserved would be better off putting the money up themselves and/or the wrench work in fixing them and machining unavailable parts if necessary. A transit systems job is to move people in exchange for money. The more fit, comfortable and up to date the vehicles are the more money it can earn. Historic vehicles are simply a treat and lose more money than what they could earn if what went into them went into a regular vehicle. I love old vehicles as much as the next fan and I can pick out more than a few vehicles I wish were preserved (Flyer D700, E700, D800 and even the Flyer D901 which I hated and loved at the same time). But let's be realistic here about what it takes to keep historic vehicles around. Fans should be VERY grateful.
  8. Said every leafs fan for the past 50 years. So that's what the hobby has come to, huh. We have to worry about the foam Taliban? Welcome to the millennium. Where customer service comes to die.
  9. Thanks for those photos. They're about as big as I thought they were but I thought they'd be heavier considering the vintage. The top photo on the left gives an idea of how thick the leather is. You don't get leather like that anymore LOL. I always wondered how devices this small could handle so much voltage without getting ridiculously hot or frying the components. So if a foamer wants to check if we're lying about there being 600V coming out of the 3rd rail, he can grab one of these and check it for himself? That's cool but I'd rather use this for home use. Especially since you said they don't need batteries. What were the batteries for then? Cool analyzer. I'd love to have a device like that to clean up my audio paths for my turntables for ripping. What's the floppy disk drive for though?
  10. Cool. I can't really tell by the pictures; How big are these two units and how heavy are they? Forgive my ignorance, but is it dangerous to test high voltages like 600 volts through those? Also could you see what brand those batteries were? Or were they just unmarked? Leaked batteries are the worst. My most recent victim of leaked batteries was a nice Minolta SLR (it was the first one with auto focus I believe and a bunch of other electronic stuff). The battery compartment was crusted over and that may have cause it to stop working. Thankfully with machines like yours, they're so robust that you can fix the contacts yourself. I wonder, is there any way to power it besides batteries? I have never seen a case like that roll-top before. What's it made of? Plastic? I also dig the old "chicken head" knobs on those. I am going to keep my eye out for something like this. I'd hate for an elegant device like this to go to waste.
  11. I see thanks for that. I'm gonna check out some more video on YouTube. I always liked those cars. That's true about NYC. Their car orders are HUGE. Like hundreds and sometimes over 1000 cars. So any way they can save money they will. Money that they would also need to maintain or repair infrastructure. But NYC for the most part kept their cars for about 50 years. Some even lasted 60+ years like the Q-Type. As for retired cars, will they dump those in the ocean again? They could probably make another borough artificially with all those. Nice piece. And I love the leather case. Simpson Logo almost looks like the department store logo. I wonder if there's a connection there. As for your question, that's a tough one. If it was built before Wabtec took it over then it has no historic foamer connection, but then again, I had a White Westinghouse fridge once and a Westinghouse clothes dryer. Both of which could be foamer approved (thank god they've long since been discarded lest I have photographers with huge zoom lenses trying to get shots of the logos through cracks in my doors and windows). My final verdict is NO seeing as that device can disprove many foamer-fables and foam-theory as you've demonstrated more than once.
  12. I believe that's what those are called, windscreens. Maybe there's another word for them but I do believe they're there to keep wind from blowing on people sitting either side of them. As for the material, again, a lot of furniture today is made the same way. Desks, dressers, etc. All particle board covered in vinyl. Our cupboards are basically the same and they haven't warped. They're in the same condition as when they were installed. Budapest I believe is the place. You just reminded me of it. Didn't know those cars were that popular. Interesting info. I guess it depends also on how much of a nostalgia culture the agency has. Of course a place like NYC is going to keep their trains around for a long time because the subway is a culture there. Other places probably just wanna justify their capital budgets.
  13. I see. The door panels (windscreens) are actually as I described before. I've seen damaged ones and that confirms it. It is some kind of hard pressed particle board or fiberglass. If they were solid plastic, those metal bars wouldn't last very long screwed into them as they wood with particle board anchors. The surface however is vinyl or plastic. Just like the DIY furniture today. My desk is actually the same and as about as thick as those screens. Also, if they were plastic they'd be considerably warped from years of heat. Think those old red slides they used to have at the pre-nanny state public jungle gyms. Yeah those cars H5-TR probably have similar panels. It's all about saving weight and thermal properties. Nice. Isn't there some other subway somewhere on the planet that has the EXACT same subway cars? I can't remember where but I think they were unpainted silver on the outside. I wonder if it is really cheaper to buy new cars instead of rebuild seeing as so many agencies have rebuilt and modernized their own cars. The TTC retires their subway cars very early comparatively.
  14. The Gloucesters were most definitely NOT of the plastic age. Those babies were mostly steel (except the G2s) and build in the 50s just before the plastic age came about. The walls inside were not plastic. I liked the lighting in those though. I compare it to the difference between using those CFL or LED bulbs without the yellow filter and bulbs and those newer LED ones that more resemble incandescent. Just had a nice warm feeling to them. Plus those seats were really plush. The door panels on the M1s were not plastic LOL. Where are you getting this info? They were aluminum. I got a pic of those doors from the inside if I can find them. The wind screens on all cars are not plastic. They're more a kind of fiberglass or really dense particle board with maybe a layer for the colour like todays furniture which is particle board underneath and vinyl for the pattern. That's the same material that was used for the ceilings in the Gloucesters and other wall panels. Same with the M1s (except the ceiling which was metal). The only plastic on the M1s was the window frames. See pics below. Those NYC cars, even though they are stainless steel instead of aluminum were built really well but to be fair, they went through two major overhauls. So that's why they're still around almost 60 years later. (R32). I guess it depends on what materials were available to them at build time and the objectives of their respective agencies. Early on the TTC wanted the lightest cars possible. They only went with the Gloucesters because the PCC subway cars were too expensive. I love those Moscow subway cars. They sort of look like half PCC/Half G2 Gloucester subway cars. The rebuild looks pretty nice too. Well if you wanna get anal. Cream would be more yellow as the surface vehicle version of "cream" paint. I'd still say it was white. Same shade they used on buses before the Novas. It wasn't as white as the Novas. Didn't know that. I've seen some fixtures for those at Lansdowne division and they looked like any other that was used system wide. About when did they remove the second row of lights? Maybe the colour scheme they used was to compliment that lighting which explains why those cars felt so dark inside. I don't really like the surgical lighting either. I guess they want decent lighting for the security cameras.
  15. You're right. I guess the best thing to do is to not share full resolution photo, watermark them and host them on a site that disables downloading (even though there are browser plugins that can undermine that).
  16. That's true. These newer vehicles just don't have the "soul" the older ones have. Plasticware for a plastic age. Here's the number shots. I see what you're saying. The H1 "white" wasn't snow white but it wasn't as "off white" as the H4 paint. The H1s were definitely the darkest inside (besides the Gloucesters). So dark that it was very difficult to take photos without flash in them. hell, even if you had flash it was still hard.
  17. I am positive you can take legal action. This is seriously making me reconsider uploading videos. I will never upload my photos again that's for sure. Transit Toronto stole a few of my scans and photos and made up some BS name until I made them credit me or cease and desist.
  18. 1. That would be my opinion actually. 2. Nope. The H1 walls are white while the H2's and 4s are more of an off-white cream colour. I have closeup number shots of both to prove this. 3. Agree. That coupled with the orange, white and brown and then later on the red velour must have been designed to break your spirit on the way to work. Can't believe I used to prefer those cars to all else because of that when I was a kid.
  19. Take a look at the R10, R12 and R14, then have a look at the camshaft cars. Even though ours had smooth rounded roofs, the "eyebrow" pattern follows the same shape as those "turtleback" cars. So, to me at least, on approach it kinda looks like one of those. I don't know of any NYC cars that had indented windows as our did. Those camshaft cars looked older than they really were. The R40s were probably the dumbest design though. Made even worse when they put new gates on them. That's the space-age thing in the 60s going too far to be practical (and safe). LOL I always liked the T1s and kept track of their delivery. But when they were building the Sheppard line there were times when the entire Y-U-S was T1 like on the weekend. That's the only time I was ever really sick of them. The H1 interior paint was more on the white side actually. The ceiling was grey though. The floor blue and the seats dark blue and grey. So maybe the grey ceiling made them appear dark but it was probably a combination of that and the state of the fluorescent light fixtures. I remember catching one at Queen's Park that was so dark it looked like it was on emergency lighting. The H4s were the same way until they rebuilt them around 2002. After that they were as bright as the 53xx T1s were at the time.
  20. LOL my bad. I always get telecine and kinescope mixed up. Thanks for that info! So you mean that the actual sound for a given picture is 19 frames away? I wonder how those ARRI cameras that had the built in optical sound recorder worked then since the audio is that far away from the actual image. I figured unions were the case and that could explain the fire that destroyed the ATO cars. I figure that even if the TTC were to go completely automatic they would still want to have an operator on board for security reasons. It's sad though that a lot of jobs will be lost to it. Yeah, apparently it took them a while to pay off the CLRVs. Didn't they lease them for years? Something like that. I can't believe those things had completely sealed windows when they were new. Did they really think that was a good idea to have a car with no fans or A/C and sealed windows? If I'm not mistaken, those Grey Line D901s were the first to have A/C but I actually didn't ride an A/C bus until the 91 Orions came in. That's true. There was also the 1984 "Year of celebration" which I wish I was older to see. It is my understanding that those old backlit street signs were from the centennial as well. I really wish they never got rid of those. They were really unique. Both Toronto and Montreal lost their charm a long long time ago. It's sad. LMAO. Yeah, I remember thinking how mysterious the RT seemed when I was living in Downsview as a kid. I didn't ride it until 1992 back when they still had 2-car trains. The door chimes, the weird seating pattern, strange starting noise and how fast they seemed to go was a new experience. All that "magic and wonder" died for me during the storm of 99 when day after day they broke down and had to be replaced with Orion IIIs on the 603 shuttle. That's when I started avoiding the line altogether. I haven't ridden the RT in years. Easily since before they change the colours. I just take the bus to STC when I need to go there. It really should never have been built. Yeah I liked the H5s when they had the orange seats though. Even the all brown seats. I think putting those red velour seats on those and especially the H6s were hideous. My favourite interior design was the H1s and M1s though. Especially the H1s. They were so dark inside, it had this real mellow atmosphere to them. The old RT seating pattern was a bit inefficient in my opinion because of those single seats at either end. During the storm of 99 there were times where they could only run one train and you wouldn't believe how packed those got. Those were my favourite seats though.
  21. The H5 retirement was a bit sad because those are the cars I remember most besides the H1s when I was little. Also because they broke down on the last trip which I didn't attend unfortunately. True, the T1s are the last of the old style subway cars that everyone seems to be slowly phasing out in favour of these new gangway subway trains. Oh, I agree with you about the front of the Expo Express. That turbo 60s "space age" look. I always thought that the camshaft H cars' front design was reminiscent of NYC's "turtle back" cars with that design at the top. Those H6s in Ankara look interesting. They're like half H6/T1. I wonder if they are AC just like the T1s. It sure is weird seeing those classic TTC rounded windows in another country.
  22. Oh right, duh. I forgot about kinescopes. I would have just gone the scan route but boy that service isn't any cheaper. Especially if you have it done in 4k. The video itself on YouTube appears to be 1080p. Still that's some serious gate weave to make the credits wobble as they are. The audio sounds way better than the picture lets on that's for sure. I forgot about the fact that those NYC cars I mentioned used radio signals as well. It was the stationary control on the platforms that used film and then sent signals to the track that were picked up by the very same identra coil. I wonder why with all those years of practice why ATO never became a thing. Probably a union thing. I also noticed in the video that the train had proper A/C. I didn't realize that was an option at the time. I wonder why the TTC didn't get it for the H1s. They were getting a lot of funding back then from the provincial government. Nowhere near the joke funding they get today. So much so that the B-D line opened one year prematurely. I never really felt hot on the subway cars with fans but still it would have been nice. Expo 67 seemed to have a global impact. There were many famous band that played there. There's even a reggae song called "Last train to Expo 67". I still don't really know what they're about. Was it like the old CNE where they featured new technology? Or was it more like the current CNE as a giant industrial themed amusement park? Did they stop doing this? I only heard of the 1982 Expo and the 86 one after it and that's it. Damn. I used to have some slides taken during the construction of the 86 Expo with shots of the brand new Skytrain and ROW. Dunno what happened to those. Whatever it's purpose I'm sure it out Montreal on the map. They should have kept the train though. Or at least send em to Toronto for spare parts.
  23. LOL yeah I was confused about their description of how the car worked. There was one too many utterance of the word "manual". They didn't really go into detail on how the ATO worked either. In NYC when they tried out ATO on an R21 or 22 (I think) around the same time, it used punched film. How did the Expo Express work? It's crazy how similar the train was to an H1 and a shame they never kept the cars in a museum or used them for regular rapid transit somehow. As for the film itself, the damage is brutal and the colour makes it look more like 50s 16mm stuff. The worst were the end credits. Did you catch that? I dunno if the titles are wobbling intentionally or the film is so damaged that it's not completely flat. Either way it doesn't look like they scanned the film frame by frame but instead maybe recorded it off a screen. There is distortion in the picture. The sound effects however killed me. That and the shots of the 60s mod chicks had me waiting to see if Austin Powers was going to jump out in the middle of the car which transforms itself into a GoGo cage. Great find. Expo 67 must have been fun. I actually have a map of it that I found in a box of records I bought a couple years ago! Where is that PCC in your photo? Are you working on that in person? I really wish we had more PCCs in the city. They shouldn't have ended the 100% PCC operation on the 604. It would have been a nice tourist line. They can mix it up with the CLRVs and ALRV they saved. It's something ain't it. Streetcars I grew up with are now in a museum. The thing is for me, they don't look as old fashioned as the PCC or Peter Witt. They still have a contemporary look to them. I wasn't expecting them to last as long as they did either. But it was sure sad to see and hear them in their last days. Especially those couple of cars that made this really weird and extremely loud thumping noise that shook the entire car. It was time to go. I don't really mind the new cars. I think they look cool. I like that nice clean, neat and symmetrical appearance. And it is interesting to ride on a low floor rail vehicle. But that's the end of the really old school style of streetcar. I have a huge backlog of videos to upload. I am not even a third of the way through the stuff I shot in 2009. I then have my stuff from 2011 which is in HDV. It will be at least two or three years before I even get to sort out the CLRV video before editing. That's just one side project. I have some UNIX studying and goals I want to accomplish like learning basic C programming. This aside from my home business is enough to keep me busy. So I won't really be checking in here often. I kinds wanna take a break from anything transit though. The last day of the CLRVs renewed my aversion to foamers. I am still disgusted by the reckless behaviour I saw. The TTC was being very generous. Volunteer is the last thing I'd do based on similar treatment I got to yourself at certain places near Guelph that shall remain nameless. I won't join any groups either. After the days, night and hours of filming and the nearly five bills I've dropped on the project, my fondest memory of the first time in nearly a decade I went photographing /videotaping was sitting at the ex at a picnic table and just watching the cars with my lunch. No cameras. Just music. That's the way I started enjoying the hobby. That's the way I like it. Glad to hear you got some projects lined up. With a workshop like that I would be looking for stuff to fix just cause. I wish I had that equipment and knowhow. Solder and pray was my method. It will be years before I foam again. Maybe I'll shoot some current stuff for posterity because I learned long ago to always shoot the new stuff. Even if you don't like it. I suppose all that's left of the old TTC are the RT cars. But they ruined them with that hideous paint or wrap job. They're pretty extra with a little rinky dink, five stop train set that blew nearly 300 million in eighties dollars to demo the Skytrain tech.
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