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  1. The survey has been updated with individual route maps that are much easier to compare. https://www.ttcannualplan.ca/survey Also the service summary for this board has been posted: http://ttc.ca/PDF/Transit_Planning/Service Summary 2021-06.pdf
  2. I thought with VISION they could update all the buses wirelessly and should have been done before each board period. Buses shouldn't have fallen through the cracks now.
  3. Seems more like that car was running a red at full speed smashing into the bus. Damage on that car look very serious.
  4. Yes this contract specifically.
  5. They can bid on only 40ft or (40ft plus artics). They can’t bid on artics only.
  6. They'll likely get the BRT roof styling like the current HEVs unlike theses ones.
  7. They got the 8100/8300s right now. There’s nothing saying Queensway can’t get ebuses. Eglinton is keeping them outside and they can’t get hybrids.
  8. This route is for those who live on Trethewey and those getting from somewhere on Weston Rd to Jane/Lawrence. If you want to go to Mt Dennis from Albion/Weston, the 89/989 is going to be faster. People also seem to board the 52 in mass at Weston and get off by Jane indicating some are coming from the 89. If they are coming from the 96/996, a transfer to the 35/935 would almost certain be faster too.
  9. Eg West opening date is still target for 2030/31. That's a decade away. An initial business report states the earliest opening date possible is 2028. The current tunnel contract is TBM only (2022-25). You will not see any station construction nor will the elevated guideway be built. Jane Station (Line 5) will not start till they award the system outfitting contract is 2024/25. Presumably they start in 2025/26, the station would be in 2028/29. The udnerground stations however probably won't finish till 2030 assuming no delays. If Metrolinx built the subway like everyone else does and start digging each station day, this line could open in 2026-28. Instead they do this dumb tunnel first, build later.
  10. The 935 is a huge issue if it doubles back like that. It's such a waste of time. Plus the Mt Dennis bus terminal is located at such a hard to reach place. Bypassing Line 5 would leave a network gap. My suggestion to the TTC is run two branches, one Mt Dennis station to Pioner Village Station. The other is keep the same 935 to Jane. This leaves the southern end with half as much service which they can either run a third branch of 935 between Jane and Mt Dennis or improve the 27. Once Line 5 and Line 6 opens, over 100 bus would be freed up. I'll expect more service improvement to many routes so route movements would likely be minimized. Mt Dennis and Eglinton would have a lot more bus once Line 5 opens and Arrow for Line 6. 34 Eglinton - Mt Dennis is more likely to operate the route, it is closest to the division and they are losing the most runs from the 32. This route at the best would operate with a 15 minute headway using 6-7 buses. 35 Jane - Probably stay with Mt Dennis with new artics. 52 Lawrence West - Arrow is having buses freed up from the 36. Losing the 52 too means 70+ runs being freed, ~25 are artics run. If they get the 35, that'll add 40-45 buses but a conversion to artics means 35-40 buses.
  11. The corridor is pretty local. Most people don't ride from Sheppard to Line 2. Pack jammed buses southbound empty out by Eglinton with seats. It'll slowly fill back up by Bloor. Half of those riders currently staying on are headed downtown and would utilize Line 5 instead. So the truly inconvenient ones are pretty low. The 935 dipping into Mt Dennis is going to be a major annoyance. It'll add at least 10 minute to the trip in rush hour. Might as well hop off at Jane/Eg and grab the next 35 or 935. Check the app first and see if there is one coming, so you don't end up on the same bus you got off 10 min ago. The 51 and 56 have similar evenings and weekends service. 56 is twice as frequent in rush hour (combined branches) and slightly more frequent during weekdays midday. The 51 could use a slightly better service. I don't think they are short turning the 51B at the right place. With the 54 rerouted onto Don Mills, they should bring back the temporary 51C routing to Lawrence/Don Mills that operated in summer 2019.
  12. He should be banned from viewing this thread or at least censored any post regarding movements to Queensway.
  13. Those changes are approved for this year. TTC usually implements new additions in the fall when people get back to school after the summer holiday season. We should see those new express those new express routes (938, 943 and 968), a new route to Stanley Greene neighbourhood, this 121 routing changes as well as the Scarborough East reorganization. http://ttc.ca/About_the_TTC/Commission_reports_and_information/Commission_meetings/2020/December_15/Reports/Decisions/2049_9_2021_Annual_Service_Plan_Decision.pdf The 172 won't reappear till next year so my guess is the 121 will stay the way it is till the 121 to Cherry Beach ends. The recommendations for all these changes won't reach the board till the end of the year. If approved, they will take 4 months to implement. Just in time for May 2022. I sent my comments in for the 172, they should loop around Union the same way as the 72B. All southbound service to the waterfront east should be at one bus stop (19, 72B and 172), not diagonally across the intersection. They either don't realize reality (which is probably true) or they really don't want the regular 19/72B riders taking the 172.
  14. To support lovely repainted Novas at Queensway!
  15. TTC has started the 2022 Annual Service Plan https://www.ttcannualplan.ca/, mostly on changes with routes connecting to Line 5 as well as a few routing changes. The changes to some routes are much more aggressive this time. After the last round, there has some new changes to the proposal. The 81/88 routing changes wasn't well received so they are modified again. 81 now goes to Sicence Centre Station while 88 pretty much maintains the current looping with a loop around Laird Station. Route number 18 is still held for Caledonia while the Castlefield route is now 179 and extended to Keelesdale Station instead of Caledonia Station. 58 Trethewey is now 158 Trethewey for whatever reason and is extended up Weston to Knob Hill Dr where the 73D loops. The 13 will be rerouting onto Avenue Rd instead or Oriole Parkway to connect to Avenue Station. The 74 will connect to Eglinton Station instead of using that loop under the building at Eg/Mt Pleasant. The 162 Lawrence-Donway will no longer loop on the Donway but instead terminate at Science Centre Station. An interesting proposal is the 332/334 will be somewhat merge with 2 branches that overlaps Line 5. This is similar to how the 300 operates. 334A Pearson to Kennedy and 334B Mt Dennis Station to Finch and Neilson. The toolkit PDF has all the changes listed without having to checkbox each route on the online survey: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5f31983105399b71d5495df1/t/60d597f42d735a64c8953397/1624610808602/2022+Annual+Service+Plan+Engagement+Toolkit.pdf Here I'll document the changes before they take it down after the survey: 13 Avenue Road This route will be adjusted to serve between Chaplin Crescent and Eglinton Avenue West to connect to the new Avenue Station on Line 5. Service will be removed from Oriole Parkway between Chaplin Crescent and Eglinton Avenue West. The route will continue to serve Eglinton Station to provide a direct connection to Line 1 for residents in the Yonge-Eglinton and Yonge-St Clair neighbourhoods. NOTE: I edited this map since to indicate the mistake on the survey. The description is correct, the 13 currently travels up Oriole Parkway to Eglinton missing Avenue Road Station. 18 Caledonia This will be a new route replacing the northern portion of the current 47 Lansdowne. The 18 Caledonia will serve Caledonia Road from the new Caledonia Station on Line 5 to Yorkdale Station on Line 1. Two branches will operate on this route: 18A via Bridgeland Avenue, and 18B via Orfus Road. By separating the 18 Caledonia from the 47 Lansdowne, customers can expect more reliable service on the route, and service levels better tailored to ridership demand. Customers travelling through Eglinton will have to transfer to 47 Lansdowne at Caledonia Station. 27 Jane South This will be a new route replacing the southern portion of the current 35 Jane. The 27 Jane South will serve Jane Street from the new Mount Dennis Station on Line 5 to Jane Station on Line 2. By separating the 27 Jane South from the 35 Jane, customers can expect more reliable service on the route, and service levels better tailored to ridership demand. Customers that are travelling through Eglinton Avenue can still make use of 935 Jane Express. 32 Eglinton West This route will terminate at the new Mount Dennis Station on Line 5, providing bus service west to Renforth Station. Customers can expect to transfer onto Line 5 to continue travelling on Eglinton Avenue. The many branches that currently operate under 32 Eglinton West will become unique routes serving different stations on Line 5. Bus service east of Mount Dennis Station will be operated as 34 Eglinton. 34 Eglinton This route will be adjusted to serve parallel the below-grade portion of Line 5, from Mount Dennis Station to Science Centre Station, serving all surface transit stops on the corridor. The purpose of 34 Eglinton is to provide local transit access to the portion of Line 5 where station spacing is wider than TTC coverage standards. The 34 Eglinton will not serve east of Science Centre Station on the at-grade portion of Line 5 as stop spacing on this portion is within TTC coverage standards. 35 Jane This route will be adjusted to terminate at the new Mount Dennis Station on Line 5, providing customers on Jane north of Eglinton with a direct connection to new rapid transit. By shortening the 35 Jane to Eglinton Avenue, customers can expect more reliable service on the route, and service levels better tailored to ridership demand. Customers that are travelling through Eglinton Avenue can still make use of 935 Jane Express. 47 Lansdowne This route will be adjusted to terminate at the new Caledonia Station on Line 5, with service north of Eglinton Avenue replaced by 18 Caledonia. The short-turn branch terminating at St Clair will also be eliminated, so that all services on 47 Lansdowne will run end to end, from Caledonia Station to Queen Street. Customers north of St Clair can expect higher service levels than today, and also greater service reliability as the route is shortened. Customers travelling through Eglinton will have to transfer to 18 Caledonia at Caledonia Station. 51 Leslie The 56 Leaside will be cancelled and replaced by an extended 51 Leslie to Donlands Station. With the introduction of Line 5 on Eglinton Avenue, the current routings on Eglinton by 51 Leslie and 56 Leaside will be made redundant. Customers currently travelling along Eglinton via 51 and 56 should expect to transfer at Sunnybrook Park Station or Laird Station. A short-turn branch from Donlands Station to Laird Station (51B) will operate during peak periods to provide additional service south of Eglinton Avenue. 54 Lawrence East This route will be adjusted to terminate at the new Science Centre Station on Line 5. With the introduction of Line 5 on Eglinton Avenue, the current routing on Eglinton by 54 Lawrence East will be made redundant. Customers currently travelling along Eglinton via 54 should expect to transfer at Science Centre Station. Additionally, service will be routed via Don Mills Road instead of Leslie Street. 71 Runnymede This route will be adjusted to divert into the new Mount Dennis Station on Line 5 in both directions, to connect the Mount Dennis and Rockcliffe-Smythe neighbourhoods, as well as TTC’s Mount Dennis Bus Division, to the new rapid transit. This route will continue to operate to Runnymede Station on Line 2. 74 Mt Pleasant With the completion of Line 5, the 74 Mt Pleasant will no longer serve north of Eglinton Avenue, and will instead terminate at Eglinton Station. Service north of Eglinton Avenue will be covered by 103 Mt Pleasant North. This route will provide a direct connection to Line 1 and Line 5 (at Mount Pleasant Station) from the Mount Pleasant neighbourhood. 81 Thorncliffe Park This route will be extended to the new Science Centre Station on Line 5, via Overlea Boulevard, Gateway Boulevard, and Don Mills Road. The 81 Thorncliffe Park will better serve customers in Thorncliffe Park, connecting them to destinations in the Flemingdon Park neighbourhood, such as shopping, schools, libraries, and parks. This proposal was adjusted based on community consultation in 2019, when members of the community provided feedback on the local destinations they wanted access to. 88 South Leaside Previously, the TTC had planned to consolidate all services on 88 South Leaside to terminate at Laird, but feedback received from community consultation in 2019 showed that the proposal did not suit the needs of transit customers in the area. Instead, 88 South Leaside will be adjusted to serve the new Laird Station on-route, but will continue to operate in a circular loop through the Leaside and Thorncliffe Park neighbourhoods. 89 Weston This route will be adjusted to serve the new Mount Dennis Station on Line 5 in both directions, connecting customers on Weston Road to the new rapid transit. Service will continue to operate from Keele Station on Line 2 to Albion Road. Also see 989 Weston Express. 100 Flemingdon Park This route will be adjusted to serve the new Science Centre Station on Line 5. Prior to Line 5 construction, 100 Flemingdon Park operated via Eglinton Avenue. With the completion of Line 5, 100 Flemingdon Park will not return to Eglinton Avenue, as Line 5 will make bus service redundant. Customers can expect to continue to transfer to Eglinton Avenue services at Wynford Station or Science Centre Station. Two branches will operate on this route: 100A via Grenoble Drive, and 100B via Linkwood Lane. 103 Mt Pleasant North This route will be reintroduced with the completion of Line 5, serving Mount Pleasant Road north of Eglinton Avenue, from Eglinton Station to Doncliffe Loop. This route will provide direct connection from the Lawrence Park neighbourhood to Line 1 and Line 5. Customers travelling through Eglinton will have to transfer to 74 Mt Pleasant at Mount Pleasant Station. 158 Trethewey This will be a new route replacing the current 32C Eglinton West branch when Line 5 is open. The 158 Trethewey will serve the new Keelesdale Station on Line 5, via Trethewey Drive. Instead of terminating at Lawrence Avenue as the 32C does today, the route will be extended northward via Weston Road to Knob Hill Drive, providing more transit options to the Weston neighbourhood and connecting the neighbourhoods along Trethewey Drive to new shopping destinations. 161 Rogers Rd This route will be adjusted to terminate at the new Mount Dennis Station on Line 5, via Black Creek Drive. This change will provide direct connection to rapid transit for customers in the Keelesdale and Caledonia neighbourhoods. Route 161 Rogers Rd will no longer serve Alliance Avenue, which will be replaced by an adjusted 171 Mt Dennis. Customers travelling along Rogers Road to Alliance Avenue will have to transfer to 171 Mt Dennis. 162 Lawrence-Donway This route will be adjusted to terminate at the new Science Centre Station on Line 5. This route will no longer loop via The Donway north of Lawrence Avenue and east of Don Mills Road. Customers on The Donway should expect to walk to Don Mills Road or Lawrence Avenue for transit service. Instead, two-way service will operate via Overland Drive and Barber Greene Road, and extend via Don Mills Road to Line 5 to connect customers directly to new rapid transit service. 168 Symington This route will be adjusted to terminate at the new Mount Dennis Station on Line 5. The route will be extended via Weston Road and Black Creek Drive, and will no longer serve Avon Loop (Weston Road & Rogers Road bus loop). 170 Emmett This will be a new route replacing the current 32D Eglinton West branch when Line 5 is open. The 170 Emmett will serve the new Mount Dennis Station on Line 5, via Eglinton Avenue and Emmett Avenue. Customers who are currently travelling east of Mount Dennis Station will need to transfer to Line 5 to continue their journey when the line opens. 171 Mt Dennis This route will be adjusted to serve the new Mount Dennis Station on Line 5. Additionally, 171 Mt Dennis will no longer serve Jane Street and Trethewey Drive. Instead, the route will be extended to Jane Street and Alliance Avenue to provide coverage on a previous portion of 161 Rogers Rd. The 171 Mt Dennis will directly connect customers on Alliance Avenue to new rapid transit service. 179 Castlefield This will be a new route operating on streets not currently served by transit directly, connecting Cedarvale Station and Keelesdale Station via Castlefield Avenue. This route will provide new service to employment uses along Castlefield Avenue, while also serving some medium-density housing on Roselawn Avenue, connecting these new customers directly to Line 1 and Line 5. 334 Eglinton Blue Night This will be a new route replacing the current 332 Eglinton West and 334 Eglinton East Blue Night routes. Two branches will operate on this route: 334A from Pearson Airport to Kennedy Station via Eglinton, and 334B from Mount Dennis Station to Finch and Neilson via Kingston Road and Morningside. This route will be the primary option for customers during the overnight period along the Eglinton corridor. Existing customers travelling through Yonge Street today will no longer be required to transfer between 332 and 334, unless travelling beyond Mt Dennis and Kennedy Stations. 935 Jane Express This route will be adjusted to serve the new Mount Dennis Station on Line 5. The 935 Jane Express will divert via Eglinton Avenue both ways to serve the new rapid transit station. This express service will be the primary option for customers travelling on Jane Street through Eglinton Avenue, as the local service will no longer be continuous through Eglinton. Also see 27 Jane South and 35 Jane. 954 Lawrence East Express This route will be extended to the new Science Centre Station on Line 5, via Lawrence Avenue and Don Mills Road. Express service will be extended from Lawrence East Station to provide customers west of Line 3 with new express service and connections to Line 5. Also see 54 Lawrence East. 989 Weston Express This route will be adjusted to serve the new Mount Dennis Station on Line 5 in both directions. The route will be rerouted to Black Creek Drive to provide quicker access to the new terminal. Service will continue to operate from Keele Station to Steeles Avenue. Also see 89 Weston. Other suggested changes: 8 Broadview – Extension to Coxwell Station Service will be removed between Lankin Blvd and Plains Rd. The route will continue to operate from Broadview Station via Broadview Avenue, O’Connor Drive, with a new connection to Coxwell Station via Coxwell Avenue. This will improve capacity on Coxwell Avenue and provide residents with another connection to Line 2. 65 Parliament - Extension to Dockside Drive The 65 Parliament will be extended to Dockside Drive via Queens Quay. This route extension will provide new service from Parliament Street to George Brown College and Queens Quay East, providing another connection from Line 2 to the lake. The 65 would no longer serve its current terminal looping around the St Lawrence neighbourhood, but is still within walking distance to customers on The Esplanade. 118 Thistle Down - Extension to Claireport Crescent The 118 Thistledown will be extended to Claireport Crescent via Albion Road during peaks. This route will provide a direct connection from Albion Road to Line 1 at Wilson Station, while also improving service levels along Albion Road to encourage local transit rides in the Rexdale neighbourhood. 172 Cherry Beach - New service along the eastern waterfront to Cherry Beach The 172 Cherry Beach will operate from Union Station to Cherry Beach. With the planned service extension to the 121 Fort York-Esplanade route onto River Street, the seasonal service to Cherry Beach will become a standalone route connecting Union Station to Cherry Beach via the Distillery District. This route will only operate in the summer, connecting all destinations along the eastern waterfront. 150 Eastern - New service on Eastern Avenue The 150 Eastern Ave will operate new local service between Woodbine Loop (Kingston Road and Queen Street) and King and University, via Eastern Avenue and the King Street Transit Priority Corridor. This route will serve new residential and employment developments along Eastern Avenue and high density development in the Corktown Commons neighbourhood, connecting these areas directly to the downtown core. The survey feedback deadline is Friday, July 16, 2021.
  16. These covers are designed by independent artists and selected by the TTC. The artist can choose whatever tool to use as there’s no requirement to use the most latest tool to create art.
  17. J stands for Jarvis, the previous east terminal till it was extended to broadview this period.
  18. 18 might still be reserved for the Caledonia/Lansdowne split once Line 5 opened.
  19. Interesting to see the TTC finally settle on giving Bay the number 19.
  20. Jane 35/935 doesn’t need 60 buses. So we should be happy to get wifi on other routes too. Well this service is aimed at low income people. People what might still be stuck with a BlackBerry. (Then again both Tory and Ford are still using them)
  21. Most if not all of them are suppose to be here by now. The target opening day was in 3 months.
  22. I really think they should give the 85J a new route number. Maybe 185. Those early 85 trips that runs from Sheppard-Yonge to Meadowvale could be signed 85C/185. Same with the internal 36B branch from Finch West to Finch Station. While the 36A branch is signed 36B westbound to Humberwood when it doesn't even operate on the internal 36B branch. The combined 36A/36B branch (the old 36A before TYSSE opened) is internally know was 36J. Then there is the 97F which they could just revive the 197 Yonge North.
  23. The point is to reduce the amount of money coming from Queen's Park, not expand spending. It has nothing to do with the Mississauga Transitway. The updated EA has already address that. Renforth Station would sit below grade, likely similar level as the transitway platform. The plans for the location of the Pearson Terminal isn't finalized, so no alignment can be finalized till later
  24. They don't get to choose. Someone at head office on the fleet planning team made the decision. Or in the S50 case, MoE decided TTC should dump them early.
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