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  1. MVTArider

    Metro Transit

    IIRC SWT already has or is getting two LE ones, so maybe they'll be for MVTA. Could be going to regional route contracts or expanded service at MGT or PML as well I suppose. It's good to see accessible coaches gaining in popularity.
  2. Thanks for the feedback! Book 10 months out, wow, good to know. If I do go someday I'm planning to do it for at least 3 weeks, ideally a month. I'd want travel insurance anyways for that sort of investment so that would at least cover me if something came up after 8 months or something.
  3. MVTArider

    Metro Transit

    3129 was on the 54 this morning. Metro Transit 3129 Ride by J. Mc., on Flickr
  4. Are these equipped with some sort of turbo super-duty HVAC or an advanced EMP? That mini pod on the roof has me curious.
  5. Around 10 AATA 2003 Low Floors are now part of Lorenz Bus Service's transit fleet. I'm assuming these are primarily for the MN State fair shuttles, but given that they're newer units I suppose they could pop up on some of their other contracts as well. Here's some pics from during the Fair:
  6. MVTArider

    Metro Transit

    Both 988 and 989 are still with Metro Transit from what I'm aware, so keep a close eye on the auctions as I'm guessing they'll be listed in the next batch or two they dispose of. I would assume the VINs and years will be listed. ---- Alright, for those who are interested here's some D60 and Phantom pics from two fanning trips during the Fair:
  7. Thanks for sharing some photos. Looks like they have the same livery as Winnipeg Transit now 😛 Yeesh that's a dull institutional look.
  8. Nice photos! Would love to know how it is fanning there. I would like to visit a couple cities in Australia and New Zealand myself sometime in the future.
  9. IIRC from the MBS visit there were a few C40LFR that had been involved in accidents, they may have decided to scrap vs. risk the tanks leaking. Otherwise I don't know how much mileage MARTA piles on their buses, but it could be they get 500,000 easily and can retire early.
  10. MVTArider

    Metro Transit

    I had the day off so I took full advantage of the wonderful weather and went fanning, observations: Spotted Phantoms in service on the 3, 5, 960, and one other route. Those seem to be relegated to local peak blocks as I suspected. I did not spot any on express duty along MARQ2. DT Minneapolis MARQ2 2nd Ave S is the best bet for D60 action during the PM weekday rush. In addition to the usual 32xx on the 850F and other MJ Ruter operated runs, I saw a number of 31xx as well. There almost seemed to be more D60 than D60LFR/XD60 when I got to 2nd Ave at first. I also saw one D60 on Marquette, probably a South unit, and 3125 was on the Bloomington SF park & ride express. With the exception of 3125 most of the Metro Transit buses at the Fair TC were D60LFR and XD60, plus Gilligs on the 960. Note, I was there during the early afternoon and not during the 3pm-6pm period, so the mix may be slightly different then, on the weekend or in the early morning. The Metro Transit loop is definitely quieter than a few years ago with all the service cuts from the operator shortages. Lorenz is still running everything in house for the SF free shuttles. They had a decent amount of Phantoms going ranging from ex-Metro Transit '94-'02 units. They have also added more secondhand Low Floors from a couple different systems. Additionally they continue to run their fleet of ex-Houston METRO, ex-Johnson County, ex-MVTA/PML/MTS D40LF, and ex-SCMB/IU/CATS LF. A Line was horribly bunched as usual due to the SF traffic jams, but still a pretty quick way to get there. It was all the 8000-8012 Gilligs, and a couple of 17xx. I was hoping they might pop an 81xx or two on the A for more capacity but no. We were leaving folks at the stops Northbound after University. I spotted one 87xx XE60 on the C Line, so I guess those are either getting back in action, or they are at least throwing them on for short assignments between charges at the garage. Also saw 8013, 8015, and 8102 on the C. I was disappointed there was no 87xx on display at the Eco Experience I'll add a follow up post with some pics from today, once I get them posted to my Flickr as time permits.
  11. 2003 GILLIG LF 31 15GGE221131090574 https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?fa=Main.Item&itemid=19&acctid=9543 2004 GILLIG LF 42 15GGE291541090925 https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?fa=Main.Item&itemid=20&acctid=9543 31 was still in service when I was there at the end of May, not sure if something came in to replace it or if they were just running it until it conked out. The mileage on both units is impressive, 42 has 508,248. I doubt either has been refurbed either.
  12. MVTArider

    Metro Transit

    Auctions closing in a few days FWIW. The two D60 are scrap: 3140 3149 7105 7106 7107 7108 7109
  13. If the wrap isn't planned to be used for too long, or it needs to go to some special events for a backdrop, a unit that would be retired soon would make sense. Wraps can leave minor paint damage that needs to be fixed when they are removed. Also if they were planning to have it attend a few events or press conferences an older unit works better logistically as it would be probably sitting around otherwise. The general public just sees a bus, they aren't going to notice it's a 2006 and wonder why it's not a 2019.
  14. MVTArider

    Metro Transit

    I didn't catch the number, but there was a Phantom on the 54 yesterday during the PM peak.
  15. MVTArider

    Metro Transit

    No, so far just those two from what I'm aware. I'm not sure if they plan to run them regularly for much longer. However if they fall under the new 14 year lifespan requirement then they should see service into 2020 barring any major mechanical or body corrosion issues. Actually here are some shots from back in the beginning of June I got while fanning with a fellow transitfan from out of town:
  16. MVTArider

    Metro Transit

    Was meaning to update that, edited From what I'm aware all 31xx D60 and 3207, 3209 are on reserve status now, so I'm guessing MN Surplus will have quite a few listings for them eventually in Sep/Oct or about.
  17. Agreed, exactly how it is. I've had that same 'missing' sense the past year in the Twin Cities as most of the D60, Phantoms, and D40LF are suddenly gone on a day-to-day basis, vs. seeing them regularly just a few years ago. Heck even now just thinking of MCTS with no D40LF seems strange to me, that was literally the entire fleet my first visit there just 9 years ago.
  18. MVTArider

    Metro Transit

    https://www.metrotransit.org/routes-will-change-aug-17
  19. From a transitfan perspective Gilligs everywhere can be boring, but from a general rider perspective they are a solid bus and fairly decent ride. AC usually kicks butt as well without deafening you with a fan motor like other models. Also very interesting to hear the drivers like the Proterras. I haven't really heard much feedback on them since it's still a new model. IMHO I agree on the Xcelsior, the _40LF and 40LFR were superior quality and ride to the X_40. Xcelsior is still a decent model, just not as solid as the ones it replaced.
  20. IIRC ~3-5 days to build from a stack of parts to complete drive-able unit. The additional time comes from lack of production slots, quality control inspections and sign-offs, spec changes, repairing anything that didn't pass inspection, etc. Plus in this case if they are shipping shells down to Crookston, (or getting the buses built in Alabama?) that adds time. A lack of worker motivation to apply such a bland boring looking livery may be a factor too 😛
  21. MVTArider

    Metro Transit

    For future reference, as I'm not paying $15 to download the doc, some biodiesel and electric bus bid details from a quick skim: Proposals due September 10th, 2019 Last date to exercise options on contract - five years from execution date. Pilot electric bus due January 29th, 2021 Base order diesel buses, 15 due by August 1st, 2021, 5 due by December 31st, 2021, 2 (for MTS or opt-out) due by August 12th, 2022. Base order electric buses, 18 in addition to pilot due by August 1st, 2021. (Ref 19P122 pg. 5) No electric units for MTS are included in the base order. They appear to be staying with the same American Seating InSight seat with padding (Thank goodness, was wondering if they would switch to solid ones like other TAs) Optional equipment specs, presumably to be available to add on the 159 option units, it looks like MVTA and other opt-outs will be using some of the options: Voith Transmission (instead of ZF) American Seating Co. Vision, KC548, 2005, seat models Suburban type luggage racks with reading lamps BRT Styling options, definitely intended for use on future ABRT and BRT: Widest rear door available, slide-glide or plug Exterior exit door activation button Luggage rack on curbside front housing info screens, and next stop visual for rear facing wheelchair position. BRT exterior faring and styling package Metro Transit and MVTA graphics package Stop request touch strips (these are standard on the ABRT units and MVTA 40' buses) Plan holders (so far) are the usual suspects, Gillig, NFI, Proterra. Interestingly, Nova, and BYD are not listed. It's still early though so we will see if they jump in. I'm guessing anyone who is really serious about bidding though would have officially downloaded the request for proper review by now. If I had to bet I would put my money on Gillig winning, they should easily rank high on qualifications. That said, NFI should also have a great shot. We'll see in September or October when it's awarded.
  22. 🤔 Selkirk Transit Flin Flon Transit GO Transit
  23. Some pics of 1909 on display at Train Day back in June: Also this is Jefferson Lines 100th year of service. I haven't heard of any special events, or maybe they've already had something, but it's cool to see them still going. https://www.jeffersonlines.com/100-years/
  24. That was just a demo test, final shield type they picked was a solid plexi door that provides pretty good coverage when shut, or it can be left open if the driver chooses not to use it. A farebox is not a problem, buses in the UK and other countries have a completely enclosed driver compartment with a locking door and sliding or solid window, the farebox just gets built into the bodywork with a little cut-around for customer access to the slots. Gillig, NFI, Nova, etc. just need to do a little engineering to get the right angles for some plexi and base walls, and they can get a completely enclosed compartment as well should agencies start demanding it. Any pics of the ones WT is using? I thought the ones MCTS had on their buses looked pretty solid, though again a good gap over the box however: Milwaukee County Transit System 5138 Driver Area by J. Mc., on Flickr
  25. MVTArider

    Metro Transit

    I see MTN on the 84 often, and occasionally the 16 when downtown or Midway. Haven't actually ridden one lately however. Exterior they look okay from what I've seen. It slightly annoys me they didn't get the 5 from East in the 60036-60044 range assigned though as those were originally MTS units. Also on moves I noticed one of the ex-RTS hybrids on 54 last week, so a few must be at East or South now. (Unless Hastus randomly plugged a 54 run in as part of a Nicollet run block.) A couple other observations, driver shields seem to be getting installed as the newer Gilligs are tuned up and deep cleaned. I've been noticing a lot more 16xx and 17xx with them lately. From my observations over the past month 98% of drivers keep them open. (At least on the routes I ride) South Phantoms are at least 6, 2-3 are the 900 series. I have not seen any in service yet this summer.
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