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  1. This thread is for tracking the TTC's CLRV/ALRV streetcars as they begin retiring. List of vehicles: Bolded units of all colours = MIA Bolded and crossed out units of all colours = retired Green = car that underwent life extension Blue = undergoing life extension Bolded and crossed out red = unit that entered or was prepared for the life extension program, but was retired prior to completion CLRV: 89/196 active 4000, 4001, 4002, 4003, 4004, 4005, 4010, 4011, 4012, 4013, 4014, 4015, 4016, 4017, 4018, 4019, 4020, 4021, 4022, 4023, 4024, 4025, 4026, 4027, 4028, 4029, 4030, 4031, 4032, 4033, 4034, 4035, 4036, 4037, 4038, 4039, 4040, 4041, 4042, 4043, 4044, 4045, 4046, 4047, 4048, 4049, 4050, 4051, 4052, 4053, 4054, 4055, 4056, 4057, 4058, 4059, 4060, 4061, 4062, 4063, 4064, 4065, 4066, 4067, 4068, 4069, 4070, 4071, 4072, 4073, 4074, 4075, 4076, 4077, 4078, 4079, 4080, 4081, 4082, 4083, 4084, 4085, 4086, 4087, 4088, 4089, 4090, 4091, 4092, 4093, 4094, 4095, 4096, 4097, 4098, 4099, 4100, 4101, 4102, 4103, 4104, 4105, 4106, 4107, 4108, 4109, 4110, 4111, 4112, 4113, 4114, 4115, 4116, 4117, 4118, 4119, 4120, 4121, 4122, 4123, 4124, 4125, 4126, 4127, 4128, 4129, 4130, 4131, 4132, 4133, 4134, 4135, 4136, 4137, 4138, 4139, 4140, 4141, 4142, 4143, 4144, 4145, 4146, 4147, 4148, 4149, 4150, 4151, 4152, 4153, 4154, 4155, 4156, 4157, 4158, 4159, 4160, 4161, 4162, 4163, 4164, 4165, 4166, 4167, 4168, 4169, 4170, 4171, 4172, 4173, 4174, 4175, 4176, 4177, 4178, 4179, 4180, 4181, 4182, 4183, 4184, 4185, 4186, 4187, 4188, 4189, 4190, 4191, 4192, 4193, 4194, 4195, 4196, 4197, 4198, 4199 ALRV: 10/52 active 4200, 4201, 4202, 4203, 4204, 4205, 4206, 4207, 4208, 4209, 4210, 4211, 4212, 4213, 4214, 4215, 4216, 4217, 4218, 4219, 4220, 4221, 4222, 4223, 4224, 4225, 4226, 4227, 4228, 4229, 4230, 4231, 4232, 4233, 4234, 4235, 4236, 4237, 4238, 4239, 4240, 4241, 4242, 4243, 4244, 4245, 4246, 4247, 4248, 4249, 4250, 4251 PLEASE NOTE: as we approach the end of the ALRV era, the tracking list on the front page can no longer be considered fully accurate with regards to the status of the fleet. There are many cars listed that have been retired that are not marked as such; the reason for this is that I await any official confirmation before striking the vehicle from the active list. In addition, the numbers of the ALRVs active varies day by day, so the active vs. MIA cars are not fully accurate, either. For a day to day outlook of how many ALRVs make it into service, please refer to TransSee: https://www.transsee.ca/fleetfind?a=ttc&q=4200-4251&Go=Go Feel free to post any sightings, pictures, notes or memories you have.
  2. PCC Guy

    Streetcar News

    No justification was provided, no. Some comments speculated that it might have been something similar to what they practiced at British Railways or at many transit agencies in the former communist bloc, whereby if they couldn't repair a vehicle in time to appease the brass, then they would swap the number, i.e. if 4126 was in need of repairs and required by a certain time period, but was not finished, they would renumber 4158 to 4126 in its place, and 4126 would presumably take 4158's identity. Somewhat conveniently, both cars are gone, so no one can check the builder's plates to verify if any skullduggery had taken place.
  3. PCC Guy

    Streetcar News

    Does anyone know if it was a practice, at any point in the history of the CLRV, for cars to swap numbers? A while back, in the Toronto Transit FB group, a TTC employee from Leslie Barns replied to a photo of 4126 by saying that that car used to be 4158. Now, this member was not known for posting trustworthy information (they previously claimed 4002 had been scrapped back in March, the day before the car returned to service, and when called out on it said that they were just messing with people), but I thought I'd ask here for a confirmation/denial of these claims. Thanks!
  4. W-30 usually comes out when the weather doesn't permit them to run 327.
  5. PCC Guy

    TTC 2252 GM Fishbowl Charter

    What is the preferred way to present your charter ticket - should we print it out, or would showing the image on one's phone be fine?
  6. Both are back at Russell now. Perhaps they were dropping off derelict cars?
  7. Where are you seeing that the only PCC they list as operational is 4000? If I go to their site I see all the usual suspects still listed. https://hcry.org/portfolio_category/streetcar/ I was told that 4000 is way too old, fragile, and lacks commonality with the post-war cars for it to run on any kind of regular basis, so it would be very strange if that was the only PCC they kept running.
  8. A TTC driver in the Toronto Transit FB group said that there are posted ALRV extras on the 511 for the June 23 board period. Of course, whether the cars actually end up running there is another question. We've all seen what just happened to 4221, and it looks like 4207 hasn't run in a few days either?
  9. On a less pleasant note, 4204 appears to have been shut off. Hopefully this isn't the end of the line for the car - I was personally hoping this one would be saved, being that it was the first one to run in service so many years ago.
  10. I last spotted in earlier in the week. It was parked in between a couple of refurbished ALRVs in the scrapping area. Still looked shiny.
  11. PCC Guy

    TTC Orion VII Movement List

    The Queensway rider persecution complex is mighty.
  12. 4147 has been in service.
  13. If you're lucky you may spot the last remaining Boston CLRV (4029) being shuffled around the Russell yard over at Queen and Greenwood, assuming that by the time you arrive it hasn't been scrapped yet. With the fleet being in a transitional state right now the yard is full of dead cars, so if that's something you're interested in I'd recommend a trip over.
  14. 4034 returned to service yesterday on the 506.
  15. No, I didn't see 4215. The lines at Russell were short enough that by walking around the perimeter of the property, I could photo every ALRV on the west side of the yard. If the car is still in Toronto, I didn't see it. In other news, 4103 is MIA. I witnessed it push 4094, looping around Russell, yesterday, and then about half an hour later I came back and their positions had been reversed and 4103 had its pole pulled down. Last ran May 9.
  16. As of yesterday, the scrap ALRVs that remain on property are 4247, 4240, 4214, 4217, and 4237.
  17. No one is owed the very newest buses in the fleet, and especially not when the replacement buses they are getting are only 3-4 years old at worst.
  18. Seems strange that both cars would be not signed in, unless one of these AM trippers have not yet had trip data uploaded onto NextBus yet. But I presume this is good news for the fleet either way. Meanwhile, here are a couple of photos of 4210 & 4251 in days gone by. Toronto Transit Commission 4210 - 01 by Andrew P., on Flickr Toronto Transit Commission 4251 - 02 by Andrew P., on Flickr
  19. PCC Guy

    Future TTC Bus Orders

    I'm sure there will be a media unveiling, but it will be to tout the environmental benefits of the bus, not to introduce a fringe group of oblivious clowns to quiet buses. Everyone survived when there were trolley buses.
  20. PCC Guy

    Today's Sightings

    A breakdown can be caused by a number of things, and not all of them are serious enough to cause the bus to be retired. Idle speculation is not helpful.
  21. PCC Guy

    TTC NovaBus LFS Movement List

    That cannot be. For one thing, it's been rainy/overcast all day, for another, those are not evergreen trees, so they wouldn't be green at this point, and finally, the grass in the photo is very dry, even though it's done very little except snow and rain all year. Have a look for yourself. How would Google have been able to capture the image today and get it uploaded in time, and why would they claim the image is from July 2018? https://www.google.com/maps/place/700+Arrow+Rd/@43.7467502,-79.5298242,3a,23.1y,272.9h,86.53t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1smKYfRCfL6msp8YD2QT8gWg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!4m5!3m4!1s0x882b3046ffad19a3:0x505a9b529c82e462!8m2!3d43.745728!4d-79.529601
  22. PCC Guy

    TTC NovaBus LFS Movement List

    That image is from Google Maps, dated July 2018...
  23. PCC Guy

    TTC Service Changes

    I believe it was the hybrids not equipped with VISION that were repurposed for training, so they should be.
  24. PCC Guy

    TTC Service Changes

    What does "not functioning properly" mean? There is nothing irregular happening to the streetcar fleet right now, it's just going through an immense shortage that is not going to ease up any time soon. the 7900 buses are being used on the streetcar shuttles because they're not equipped with VISION. They are instead using TETRA radios just like the streetcars are. What the 1600s are doing there I don't know. Maybe they've decided to use them in tandem with the 79s.
  25. It's also been done all over the former Czechoslovak countries, usually coupled with a full rebuild of the original body with new electronics. https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Tram_1751_(Brno)#/media/File%3ABrno%2C_Moravské_náměstí%2C_BMUE_2004%2C_Tatra_K3R-N_č._1751.jpg Of course, it also requires the base vehicle to be powerful enough. Considering that an ALRV has an unpowered center truck, and it already struggles with the Bathurst hill in unclear weather, it would likely require some major engineering work done to be able to haul around another section.
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