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  1. Valley Metro (Phoenix)

    The RPTA Gilligs are now entering service. 6760-6762 will be in Tempe, while the rest will be in Mesa.
  2. Valley Metro (Phoenix)

    Looks like Valley Metro has recently posted their proposed April changes. What is interesting is that there is a proposal to extend Route 32 into Tempe. It has been a while since a Phoenix-operated route served a significant portion of a Southeast Valley city, the only Phoenix-operated routes that serve a portion of Tempe are Routes 1 and 52 (which only barely enter Tempe near the Phoenix-Tempe border; the I-10 East Rapid goes through Tempe but has no stops in Tempe). Also, it looks like there is a proposal to re-designate the GL as an Express route in terms of fare alongside an increase in frequency, making it the Grand Avenue Express. Also, there is a proposal to combine Routes 51 and 251, but eliminating the section on Baseline.
  3. Gillig product discussion

    As far as I know Nova doesn't even offer the LFS artic in CNG. Remember that the challenge of designing a CNG artic is that they require running a flexible fuel line through the accordion, since the CNG tanks won't fit entirely on the rear section of the roof. This was why New Flyer was initially reluctant to produce a CNG artic, which left the entire market to NABI (and prior to that, Neoplan).
  4. Valley Metro (Phoenix)

    Thanks. I didn't know that Transdev-Phoenix splits routes between garages, although it makes operational sense on certain routes, considering that First Transit in the East Valley does it with most of their east-west routes out of both Mesa and Tempe, with a few north-south and express routes also split (unless it has changed since then, I think the north-south and express routes that are split include 81, 96, 104, 112, 184, 531, and 542 - I know for a fact the 184 is split since it is interlined with the 156, although 81 and 96 only have a small number of buses from Mesa and 104 and 112 only have a small number of buses from Tempe).
  5. Gillig product discussion

    I wonder, which TAs have the mid-width slide-glide rear doors on their Gillig Low Floors or BRTs? It seems to be a rarely ordered option except if the TA is very picky about its bid specs. Even for Valley Metro Gillig specified the wide plug rear doors to accommodate the rear wheelchair ramps although I am pretty sure it would have fit just fine with the mid-width since it is similar in width to New Flyer's standard size rear doors.
  6. Valley Metro (Phoenix)

    Interesting. I wonder why would the 50 be operated by North while the 60 would be operated by South when the 60 is further north, unless the 50 has been moved to South as well.
  7. Valley Metro (Phoenix)

    FYI, someone on Wikipedia changed Route 60-Bethany Home as operated by the Transdev South Division. Can anyone confirm? As far as I know this was a North Division route.
  8. Valley Metro (Phoenix)

    As for the new contract with New Flyer, it appears that the RPTA plans on replacing the 2008 C40LFRs before the 2007 D40LFRs. I wouldn't be surprised if the 2008 C40LFRs have more mileage on them than most of the 2007 D40LFRs, especially compared to the semi-suburban D40LFRs.
  9. Valley Metro (Phoenix)

    Yes, I meant 6759. Sorry for the typo.
  10. Valley Metro (Phoenix)

    A photo of Gillig bus 6579 for the RPTA at the Gillig factory was posted on Facebook. According to the post, they should be delivered starting in December. One difference that these new Gilligs should have from the 2016 Gilligs is that these will have Voith transmissions instead of ZF. I wonder if the RPTA is dissatisfied with the ZF EcoLife.
  11. Valley Metro (Phoenix)

    Note that Phoenix didn't say deliveries will be this month, they said it will be in the coming months. That photo is from the New Flyer factory in Anniston, Alabama.
  12. Valley Metro (Phoenix)

    I think the buses for RAPID are from the BRT options.
  13. Valley Metro (Phoenix)

    The options that New Flyer announced in May were still from the 2013 contract, not the 2017 contract. Phoenix did not yet finalize the 2017 contract at the time they exercised those options.
  14. Valley Metro (Phoenix)

    The new XN40s for Phoenix are confirmed to be RAPID buses here:
  15. Valley Metro (Phoenix)

    Yes, because the artics are often rotated between local and express routes, and I'm guessing for the former LINK buses they wanted a nicer interior. The only RPTA-owned artics that do not have such seating are the NABI artics.