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  1. Note that Phoenix prior to ordering the 2014 New Flyer C40LFRs did put out an RFP for diesel and LNG buses. Only New Flyer submitted a bid and the bid was too high and was thus rejected, thus the city hired a fuel consultant, leading to the switch to CNG.
  2. Note that the RPTA was also planning on getting 52 additional Gilligs in FY 2018 as well (presumably to replace the 2006 New Flyer C40LFRs), and remember that Gillig generally doesn't publicly announce orders unlike New Flyer. Now one thing to wonder is once these Gilligs arrive, I wonder if the RPTA will send the 2008 C40LFRs back to the Mesa yard. Considering that the RPTA's current Gillig fleet is based at the Tempe yard and is a rather small fleet, it might make sense to keep all the Gilligs at Tempe to keep maintenance costs down. LNG is going the way of the dodo bird. Tempe's 2010 L40LFRs will probably be the last LNG buses produced for any U.S. transit agency. I presume Tempe purchased these as an experiment whether future bus purchases should be CNG or LNG, since it already operated some of the RPTA's 2008 New Flyer C40LFRs at the time these were ordered. All of Tempe's 40-foot bus purchases ever since have been for CNG buses. Note that the CNG at the Tempe yard as well as all of the Phoenix yards is actually produced from LNG. This is the reason why the 2006 New Flyer C40LFRs cannot be fueled at Tempe, since their John Deere engines require CNG from a utility (which only the Mesa yard has), which contain some impurities.
  3. I presume these are for the NABI 60-BRT replacement, and the previous RFP did state that 10 artics were expected in FY 2018 for the RPTA, so I think this was part of the previous contract. The 11 options may be for service expansion or to upgauge capacity on some routes. I wonder which manufacturers bid for the most recent RFP. I expect New Flyer, Gillig, and ElDorado probably did, but what about Nova Bus who was totally absent from the previous RFP?
  4. Looks like Houston METRO has awarded New Flyer an order for 100 XD40s: https://newflyer.com/rss/798-houston-awards-new-flyer-a-contract-for-100-xcelsior®-buses I wonder if they will be stainless steel.
  5. Looks like Houston METRO has awarded New Flyer an order for 100 XD40s: https://newflyer.com/rss/798-houston-awards-new-flyer-a-contract-for-100-xcelsior®-buses I wonder if they will be stainless steel.
  6. Really? I presumed that 6714-6733 were exclusively based at Tempe. I know this was the case initially when unification first started, unless some of these buses have been moved back to Mesa since then. If any of those buses are back at Mesa, are there any Tempe runs on the 535? What about the 533? I know 520, 521, and 541 are entirely out of Tempe. I think the 531 and 542 are mostly out of Tempe except for one or two trips out of Mesa on each route, and I do believe that the Mesa trips on these routes are almost always an artic.
  7. FYI, I can confirm that the 535 now also operates from both the Mesa and Tempe garages, since I recently saw a dedicated express C40LFR operating the route, which are based at Tempe. I presume this leaves the 514 to be the only express route that operates exclusively from the Mesa garage (which ironically was a Tempe route prior to unification). Initially 533 and 535 were Mesa-only due to them being artic-heavy routes, but now have a few Tempe runs.
  8. Speaking of Gilligs, I wonder when the next batch of RPTA Gilligs arrive in 2018, will the RPTA move the 2008/2009 New Flyer C40LFRs back to Mesa? Perhaps the RPTA may want to keep all of the Gilligs in Tempe to maintain a common fleet at a single garage.
  9. I know I should have answered this earlier, but here is what I know. 1. Yes, the 900s are back at Yale. 2. Not sure, but the 900s were a Yale fleet originally. 3. Probably to save on staffing costs by having only one yard open. 4. That seems about correct. Ironically the 51 used to be Yale-only. 5. I know the 1, 16, 36, 40, 50, and 97 are exclusively operated out of Yale on weekdays. Not sure about commuter routes. Also, I thought the 140/141 were only out of Yale on weekdays, although this might have changed. 6. I don't think frequency has anything to do with it. Some less frequent lines like the 2 and 31 also operate from both yards on weekdays. 7. The Daytona facility is newer, opening in 2004. 8. I heard rumors about it, although I can't confirm. Now, going to the subject on why I am bumping this thread, here are some rumors that I heard: There are rumors that there will be a new Rapid Ride route on San Mateo known as the Orange Line. According to the rumor, it should coincide with the opening of the ART. To accommodate for this service change, rumors say that ABQ RIDE will move the 6600-series DE60LFs to the Yale Transit Facility, while keeping the 6900-series DE60LFRs at Daytona for the Blue Line. The 6400-series DE60LFs will be retired and the Red and Green Lines will be discontinued. Rumors say ABQ RIDE plans to replace the 700-series DE40LFRs in 2019 or 2020 with CNG buses. ABQ RIDE still has unexercised options with New Flyer for more XN40s, which I think are good through 2020. There are rumors that ABQ RIDE may be considering the New Flyer XE60 instead of BYD artics. There was a report that ABQ RIDE actually recently privately tested an XE40. There are rumors of ABQ RIDE possibly contracting out some services, either some of its lesser used routes or the SunVan paratransit service.
  10. As far as I know, Luminator does not make blue-only destination signs. They would have to be Luminator Spectrum signs that are programmed to always display in blue, which would be a waste of multicolor signs and money. And why Aries seating and not Gemini? The Gemini is supposed to be the new and improved model. And I don't see Phoenix buying hybrids. The most recent RFP doesn't include any hybrids.
  11. They are Altoona tested for 12 years, however, it is true they are intended for lighter duty service than a full size bus. Now I wonder how does the Axess compare, since the Axess is meant to be a heavier duty model.
  12. Are they all out of Mesa, or is it like the 531 and 542 where only a few trips are out of Mesa? I know this was a Tempe route prior to unification, and when they first unified this route remained entirely out of Tempe. Perhaps this may have changed since then. The 533 remained entirely out of Mesa at first after unification due to being an artic-heavy route, but now has one or two trips out of Tempe. Interesting that they would have a run on the 514 out of Mesa; it doesn't seem like it would make geographic sense considering the entire route is closer to the Tempe yard. Could the D40LFAs now be at Tempe? As stated I saw one on the 156 this morning and the 156 is a split route.
  13. Most Express runs out of Mesa are on artics, while most out of Tempe are on 40-foot buses with some runs on the silver D60LFAs. As far as I know the 514, 520, 521, 522, and 541 are entirely out of Tempe, and the 531 and 542 only have one or two trips out of Mesa with the rest out of Tempe. Only the 533 and 535 are predominantly out of Mesa (the latter not having any runs out of Tempe as far as I know).
  14. Yep. The one I saw on the 533 yesterday still had the purple front. BTW, I saw one of the ex-LINK D40LFAs today on the 156. My guess is that the ex-LINK buses won't be dedicated to neither local nor express routes. I expect the D40LFAs will mostly operate local routes, while the D60LFAs will be shifted around between local and express like the NABI 60-BRTs are.
  15. It still had the purple front, except with the LINK decals removed. The ones that operate express routes from Tempe had their fronts repainted silver a long time ago. BTW the 533 is mostly out of Mesa and is normally operated using NABI 60-BRTs; and I think the few Tempe runs normally use the dedicated express C40LFRs.