Kevin L

As a compromise, would anyone be in support of a separate section at the bottom of the VIN pages for unidentified/unverified VINs?

I'm fine with the unknown stuff as it can be useful later when you do find out. Same with the temporary stuff, but often I've found things that hasn't been removed or duplicated/added for no reason in the notes. This topic has been up since August 3. Aside from the moderators and a few others there has been little response. Sadly, this isn't the first time there has been a lack of interest. I've added info after I created the new pages and it takes 1/4 to 1/3 of the previous time and far less painful. Nothing on the pages I've changed has been deleted. If its not relevant to the VIN page I've moved it the the fleet page. A lot of that was happening recently, either not adding them to the VIN page at all or worse linking to the VIN page but not adding the VINs.

This was seen as a big deterrent to adding information to the pages for several editors. Anyone with more time/less work is welcome to create a page for those CT XD40s. They were only there temporarily until a page was created, otherwise they would have been deleted and gone from the wiki.

Switched the Nova Bus K and L VINs page to the new format. Seems easy to do and I like the result.

Nova Bus might be a good one to try out.

Should we go forward with the changes (like in the test pages)? We could do it gradually by manufacturer and figure out what works best for each case.

Done

The reason I did the GM ones like that was to avoid the possibility of duplicate IDs since all models start off at 001. The two sample pages have been modified based on the feedback above. To summarize what's been discussed above: No alternating colours. No longer have the cutaway/chassis lists. When we convert the pages, I think we will need to chose the best format for the manufacturer. Most (New Flyer, NovaBus, MCI, Prevost) could be done by year, some (like Orion, Gillig) would need more separation by model or serial range. The Gillig one will be tricky. Grouping them by serial number range (possibly in groups of 5000 or 10000?) may be the best way. It's been a good constructive discussion, so I'll let it continue for a bit longer and then we can agree/disagree to go forward with this.

All above are moved/renamed.

Removed.

I created some test/demo pages based on the discussion above: First one - Removed the alternating blue and combined the serials. Second one - Condensed all NFI Xcelsior models into a year (2020) page.

1) Agreed. It would save time while still containing the necessary information. 2) In hindsight, I can see that it is kinda pointless to create a list for them. 3) The Gillig Low Floor and BRT pages would be a good start and others that follow a sequence. I'm in support of this if people feel these would be positive changes.

Info added.

Corrected

Done