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  1. Just an thought for why the EZ Riders are not in service (too often): I presume it's to allow social distancing among passengers. Social distancing is not easy on small buses like the EZ Riders. Therefore I assume Cornwall is strategically using Orion VIs and Nova's for conventional service more often than the EZ Riders, due to our pandemic circumstances. I personally don't mind it, as it increases the chance of coming across one in service.
  2. It was 0359, and it is a privately owned bus. As my post directly above yours talks about it.
  3. Looking to get some information here, all regarding 0359: When was it put into service (as much of an exact date if possible) When was the wheelchair stickers removed (or when was the lift disabled, I've narrowed it down to 2015-2016 range based on people's photos) When was the exact date of retirement (I confirmed the January 10, 2018 report by SMS in this thread, I'd like to narrow it down to a exact last day of service, which clearly would have been between December 9, 2017 and January 10, 2018 when I got it confirmed) Not as critical, but primarily what services was 0359 assigned to throughout the years. I know after 8558 unfortunately retired, it took over the Eastern Industrial Services, but I would like a bit more information on that aspect of it. Any other interesting facts about 0359 (I believe they were the first accessible full sized conventional bus, which 0359 and 0360 were I believe the only conventional vehicles that were accessible up until the EZ-Rider's arrival in 2009, and the fact that they were unreliable for the most part. I know too they were joint ordered with Ajax-Pickering 2050-2055 (DRT 8050-8055), but I cannot think of anything else unique about the order. I did wonder if they were the last Orion Vs bought in Ontario, but GO Transit's Orion Vs were ordered after Cornwall's, so that is not a "claim to fame".) I'm writing a background story of 0359 for the person who now privately owns it which will be displayed on the interior of the bus for people to read, so any details that can be provided on those 4 points would be greatly appreciated. Also I'm sure if you can provide some information on 0360, I'm sure the owner of that unit would appreciate it as well.
  4. I realize it's been almost a year since you posted this, but I was the one who created that one for the Ottawa Transitway. Anyway, it was VERY (and I must emphasis VERY) complex to create, and it would be extremely more complex to explain how I did it. But I will say that it took be a lot of researching HTML/wiki codes and trial & error to create it. So if you'd like to do that, go right ahead. But also you could modify the transitway one to your liking. Just use trial & error like I did until you get it right.
  5. Different rules from the US (in regards to emergency exits). Our old rear engined pusher flatnoses used to have a side emergency exit but that was because it was impossible to put a rear exit on them. Now there is no more flatnoses, so that is no longer a concern. As for the amber lights, those are only on the Campeau C2s that they imported from Quebec (which Quebec has amber inner lights on their 8-way systems). They kinda made them legal for Ontario by painting them with red lens coating, but when activated, they still flash amber, which is technically illegal, but that's not my concern.
  6. oh nice!!!!! All those except 217 are definitely ex Ottawa units from my yard to be exact (Bantree). 202 got the nickname Chester, because it shakes violently at idle. It was one of the worst ones. So don't be afraid to continue that nickname there
  7. 244 eh? That's my old bus!!!!! Interesting to see they also took one of our flatnoses (which they told us that no one would take them as no one wanted flatnoses, but I guess Calgary has some, so that makes sense). Also all the flatnoses that had the bold "First Student" logo were Nepean and West Carleton buses, all the Cumberland flatnoses (which all 3 buses you mentioned were Cumberland buses) had the old normal First Student logo on them. So definitely any Thomas EF's you see with the normal First Student logo, please let us know the number of them (as I was never too familiar with Nepean and West Carleton's fleet). It's funny, when the Calgary First Student guys were checking out a bus beside mine during my morning circle check, I mentioned 244 was a rather good one (since he told me they were only looking at the Nova Scotia buses), so I guess that made him check out that particular bus. Which makes sense since they called the driver (who parked at home) and asked if he could come in because someone wants to check out that bus. What's also interesting is those two Nova Scotia's you spotted (244 was used as a spare at the end of last year), when 230 broke down on one of our driver's, 244 was his spare. Also as for our charter market in Ottawa, yes it is big, especially for non-school trips. First Student when we were doing charters, had the Department of National Defence contract (which you may wonder, what would they possibly need a school bus for?). Well the DND charters mainly consisted of cadet trips and other miscellaneous stuff that I am not able to talk about. But I can tell you DND gave us PLENTY of charter work. I haven't heard who got it yet, but I did hear a rumour that Roxborough got it. But DND alone would be enough to justify First Student staying in Ottawa.
  8. That'll be nice (for the charter division). But that's very interesting that First Student is only willing to lease out that yard, since they own it 100%, and they were willing to sell it to Voyageur (as they offered both Moodie and Carp for sale to Voyageur, but Voyageur took Carp). But then again, the same person who was running First Student Cumberland is now running Voyageur, so go figure. But I am starting to get the feeling that First Student's presence in Ottawa will not be coming to an end, since maybe First Student will also stick around like Stock did and maybe just do charters (not that they would be very successful imo). We were told that they wouldn't stick around, but also when Stock lost their routes to Campeau and Roxborough, Stock was saying they weren't going to stick around, but they ended up doing so anyway for charters. But it would make sense as Moodie has been the only branch that I've heard action on their radio (since I own a radio scanner) since our "termination date", which it sounds like drivers who were doing charters.
  9. Yeah apparently most of Cumberland's FS-65s are supposed to be brought out to Alberta (which those things were garbage anyway). Also I spotted 3 of our former buses in Toronto when I visited there last week. One of them in the Scarborough yard, one of them in the King City yard. I also spotted one of the former uOttawa buses in the Scarborough yard parked next to the former Cumberland bus that I spotted in the yard. (Which the uOttawa buses were operated by First Student Nepean, aka Moodie) Anyway, I did my rounds today to see how the First Student yards are doing, Bantree and Trim are completely empty (and they've removed the fuel tank at Trim, since last thing I heard, that yard was supposed to be developed, since the land it's sitting on is very valuable now that it's surrounded by suburban development), Jamie is still a Voyageur yard, and West Carleton (aka Carp) is now officially the home of Voyaguer. Their yard is full of brand new 2016 IC's. Nepean's yard (Moodie Drive) is right now the only yard left with buses remaining, and I noticed they have most of our Cumberland buses, as they got our two large wheelchair Corbeil buses sitting there (which were supposed to be retired two years ago, but they kept messing up the replacement bus order and they were 14 years old so they're definitely going to be retired now). Those are definitely the last remaining pieces of First Student in Ottawa is right now at Moodie. Also one interesting bus I noticed is a 2004 Corbeil sitting at Moodie Drive, which is very interesting since none of the First Student branches in Ottawa (except Cumberland's two large wheelchair Corbeil's) had any Corbeil's. As OSTA prohibits the use of "low visibility buses" (which Corbeil's fell under that classification). Only "high visibility buses" may be used, which consist of "sloped hood, stub-nose, or flatnose". So that 2004 Corbeil must have came from somewhere else, as it definitely was not an Ottawa bus originally, which leads me to believe that Moodie Drive will be used by First Student to store buses for Eastern Ontario.
  10. Oh nice!!!! Yeah they haven't sent me any emails yet except one to tell me that they haven't forgotten to schedule me for an interview, despite obviously you and two other people I know having gotten interviews. I already have my Z endorsement from when I first tried to get on with OC, so I'm all set in that department! And that definitely would be nice pay being a charter driver at Campeau!
  11. I might be starting at OC too, that is also why I am considering going spare, since I'm not going to rely on the fact I might be joining on OC, so just in case, I'd rather play it safe and go by the assumption that I am not going to be joining OC anytime soon.
  12. Oh nice! Glad to see a fellow Ottawa School Bus Driver is on here Ah ok! Well I guess it's up in the air what type of bus the two large wheelchair buses will be then! I know the two drivers who will be driving those large wheelchair buses (since they're ex-First Student drivers), and I think they'd definitely have a preference towards ICs. And glad you could shed some light on that rumour for Moodie Yard, as it was one of those large wheelchair bus drivers who told me about it. I did some Campeau buses entering/exiting Carleton University though during the last redblacks game. As when 417 did it, they were also running shuttles from Carleton. I live right outside of Carleton so it's not like it's too hard for me to see these things. I wasn't aware of that Snelgrove purchase! Though unfortunately those routes next year (with the OSTA routes that Snelgrove had) will be going up for RFP. As just because they were purchased by Campeau, doesn't mean they will be safe next year. And most likely Campeau will be gaining french board routes in the west end since I know First Student Nepean and West Carleton both had routes with the french boards. Given that Campeau was basically First Student's only competition in the west end for the french board, I can see Campeau benefiting from that loss. And that after prom stuff sounds like stuff that originally First Student used to do prior to us slowly losing charter customers before our complete shutdown. It's funny, I'm actually planning to apply to Campeau as a spare driver. But Judy told me she had enough former First Student drivers that I can only be a spare driver (because one can never have enough spare drivers). I was a spare driver at First Student because I was able to get a nice 2012 Thomas C2 with only half a year seniority (since First Student was seniority based). That and I actually made more money since the pay at First was by route, rather than by hour. So as a result, I had to cover some of the really high paying routes, that someone with my low seniority wouldn't be able to touch otherwise. After that, I liked being a spare since I liked the element of surprise that I'd get every morning, so I decided that wherever I end up, I will be a spare driver. I prefer driving the downtown school routes, and Campeau got all the downtown OSTA schools (except Immaculata), so that is how I made my decision. Being a spare, I think I may end up having to do some french board routes during my time. Yup! That Moodie Yard has no interest as far as being purchased, so First Student is using it to store most of the remaining buses in Ottawa until they're all picked up (since it's the receiving branches that are doing the pickups).
  13. Long time since there's been a post in this topic. But anyway, here's some updates on First Student's shutdown in Ottawa: Campeau has First Student's 8-hour wheelchair bus routes (2 of which are full size 40' buses, 1 is a small bus). First Student was the only ones to have large wheelchair buses in the Ottawa marketplace prior to this. Right now as these routes are also summer-school routes, Campeau's full size buses have not arrived, so for now they have small wheelchair buses going along with a full size bus until they arrive. Apparently they are going to be Blue Birds, like most of the Campeau fleet. Campeau also has a new yard on MacFarlane at the computer recycling place. Voyageur is taking over the First Student West Carleton yard (the one off of Carp Road). That will be their main location. They also took over the First Student yard on Jamie Avenue (which is so far the first Cumberland branch yard to transfer ownerships). So far no one has taken over the First Student Nepean yard on Moodie Drive, and apparently no one is interested in it either. It's interesting though as I think they might still be operating out of that yard since I've heard action on my radio scanner from the First Student Nepean channel. They might be doing what Stock has been doing which is sticking around for charters (I am not able to confirm this though). As for the other two former Cumberland yards (Trim and Bantree), Trim is being used to store buses now, and I doubt anyone will be buying it other than developers, as the land that yard is sitting on is worth ALOT of money, so they've been trying to shut down that yard for a while now. Bantree is also being used to store buses. Bantree will remain under First Student ownership since Greyhound is owned by First Student, and it's at the Greyhound yard. Also I hear Campeau is trying to shut down their yard off of Moodie Drive as well (which is immediately north of the First Student yard on Moodie Drive). But for now it will remain active. The other companies that is taking over First Student's routes, one of them is M.L. Bradley (the inventor of the Child-checkmate system used on First Student's buses), who is opening a new yard in the startop area, because they've won 23 new routes. They don't have enough space at their existing yard in Navan to park all those buses (and most of them are operating in the Startop area). Roxborough moved their buses from Trainyards to the Peterbilt dealership off of Hawthorne near Swansea. Stock (or National) won 10 routes, and I am not entirely sure of their plans. 417 has won 2 conventional 40' school bus routes, the rest are First Student's former wheelchair bus routes. Interesting enough, Campeau has won the Lansdowne Sports and Entertainment contract for the shuttle buses to Lansdowne from Carleton, Canada Post, and the R.A. Centre. So it seems like Campeau might be heading towards becoming the top company in Ottawa, since that title is up for grabs right now. In the end though, it's kind of sad that First Student is gone, as they held about 53% of the school routes in Ottawa. Lots of seniority was lost. Our driver at Cumberland with the highest seniority had 40 years with First Student (and obviously their predecessors, Laidlaw, and Capital Coach, or Travelways) Also next year, a lot of routes have "disappeared" because now most school routes will have 3 schools on their route, instead of just simply 2 schools (or in some cases, 1 school), so that's why not many school routes were awarded in the east end (since OSTA has 5-year contracts with Campeau and Roxborough, so any routes they lose through the additional schools have to be given to them). However First Student had a monopoly in the west end of Ottawa, so that's why Voyageur won 180 routes (which is OSTA's cap for any company). Here's how the routes were distributed (the new routes that is) Voyageur - 180 M.L. Bradley - 23 Campeau - 18 Roxborough - 15 Stock/National - 10 417 Bus Lines - 8 This is how it looked before the First Student shut down (which only the First Student routes were up for bid) First Student - 363 Campeau - 111 Roxborough - 50 M.L. Bradley - 45 Direct Transportation - 37 Premier - 22 Rideau Bus Lines - 17 Snelgrove - 6 Richard Barr - 2 Lalonde, Thompson, DC Bus Lines & Barr - 1/each All the other contractors except Campeau, Roxborough, Direct (who took over Stock's routes last year with a 5 year contract) and the contractors who won routes from First Student's RFP, will be going up for RFP next year.
  14. I heard that the rebranding will take place all over. But it makes sense since Stock was always owned by National Express (another British Company, like First Student). This topic is perfect btw, since I work for First Student (Cumberland Branch). And if you aren't aware, all 3 First Student locations are shutting down at the end of June. Also Stock or National Express (whatever you want to call them) will be getting school routes starting next year. They won some of the First Student routes that OSTA tendered out.
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