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  1. 8142 was actually the first to get a new reader of the 8100-series, but it's been broken at Indy ever since it got them.
  2. Just as an FYI, the Hybridrive system on the OC Hybrids was maintained by an outside vendor. There were no inhouse mechanics certified to work on the hybrid components at OC (which is why they were suddenly pulled from the road on July 31, 2020, as that's when the vendor contract expired). However, this will be rectified in the future, as in our most recent collective agreement, we got a clause that prohibits future alternative propulsion technology from being outsourced (as our mechanics must be trained and certified to work on said technologies).
  3. Just as a point of clarification, Greely was originally planned to get both local service, AND a Rural Express route (similar to Manotick and Richmond). During the consultations, notably Osgoode Township residents and West Carleton residents voiced strong opinions against transit (and the levies that came with it). Areas that receive "Rural Transit" are in "Rural Transit Area A" (RTA-A), areas that don't receive "Rural Transit" are in "Rural Transit Area B" (RTA-B). RTA-B residents still pay a Transit Levy, but it only goes towards Para Transit service (which every resident in Ottawa pays for on their tax bill, regardless of location). This will be important in the next section. When they decided to introduce the shoppers buses in 2012, it was intended as a way to lessen the load on rural Para Transpo services by having people who require the service, to schedule their appointment and cores around the bus service (rather than providing multiple trips into town on different days). Residents in Osgoode Twp, and West Carleton did express fear of their taxes being changed into "RTA-A" levy rates, however, this service is being paid for by the Para Transpo budget, rather than the OC Transpo budget. Therefore, OC Transpo told them that they already pay for the service regardless under the current "RTA-B" levy, and there is no plan of transitioning the residents over to "RTA-A" levy rates. General note: You have to be a tax payer to fully understand what "Urban Transit Area, Rural Transit Area A and Rural Transit Area B" entails, as it shows up on your property tax bill. By renting, you do not get to witness this first hand. On the topic of amalgamation: Like Waiting for 30 Minutes stated above, it was not the City of Ottawa who wanted it. It was entirely the province that made that decision. As a resident of the former City of Ottawa, I've seen a downgrade in the level of services that we receive in the former city, while also seeing a doubling of my property tax bill over the last 20 years. No one benefitted from amalgamation, and I mean NO ONE. Urban, Suburban, Rural, all of us have suffered equally. The main loss that was caused by amalgamation was the ability for local municipalities to customize the service levels to their respective municipality, rather than applying an equal service level across the entire Ottawa-Carleton region. This is not only in respect to transit, but also to local roads (which lower tier municipalities were entirely responsible for). Also trying to apply a uniform bylaw standard across a vast area like the current City of Ottawa, may work on paper, but doesn't work in practice. Bylaws for urban areas, do not work in rural areas, and vice versa. I am under the general impression that amalgamation will never work, no cost savings were ever achieved (as promised), and it was just a huge failure that led to less local representation for all within the former Ottawa-Carleton Region.
  4. Negative. They are currently property of OC Transpo. I confirmed that a few months ago. Now, I've actually been working with a few other bus operators to try to pressure the City/OC Transpo to form a new Municipal Museum (similar to the Bytown, Nepean, Billings, Cumberland, etc) which are structured under the City, but separated from the "Transit Budget". The Museums operate under Culture and Heritage Budget, which would be more appropriate to the funding of the Heritage Buses. There seems to be support for this idea from many different important people within the city, however the main constraint we are facing is Covid financial constraints (as revenue for the City is down due to the closure of facilities like the Centrepointe Theater, which is under the same department as the Museums). But I feel in approximately a few years when things get back to normal (as I'm still staying positive), this idea will likely gain more traction. I wasn't planning on posting this yet, but obviously once this idea gains some traction, you guys can also help make this happen. But until then, right now it's just a waiting game for Covid to disappear. I was also planning to reach out to Streetcar 696 to see if they would be interesting in helping make this Museum happen, but I haven't yet talked to them because like I said before, until the budget returns to normal, this won't be happening. One revenue generating idea we have been proposing to fund restoring the historic fleet is opening a gift shop (similar to the TTC, STM, and Tranlink giftshops) and use proceeds from the sales to fund the restoration (that way us Transit Fans can help, while picking up some OC swag). But I've got bigger priorities going in on my life to worry about this idea at the moment. My fallback idea if the Museum push with the city falls flat, is to try to form a organization like the Bytown Railway Society, and see if we can gain enough members and revenue to operate the vehicles ourselves. But I can imagine the costs will be rather high, especially to start it up. Plus we'd need insurance (RIP), CVOR, semi-annual inspections, which isn't exactly the cheapest things. Not including try to maintain obsolete vehicles where part available is scarce. So this scenario is not my ideal solution, but it's one I am considering if all the others fail.
  5. Like Enviro_1203 stated, they got refurbed after the decision to change the livery to the Maple Leaf was finalized in 1999 (at a Council meeting). All refurbs usually receive a new coat of paint, so that's wy they got the new livery. Generally no buses (in more modern days) at any transit agency, are usually repainted unless there's a need to repaint them (e.g. accidents requiring body work, refurbs, etc). Reason being, paint costs money, plus you need to pay someone to apply that paint, so obviously you need to include that into your budget. Unnecessary repainting would be seen by the politicians and members of public as a "waste of money", and it would not go over very well at Council. Accidents costs are usually covered by insurance, so you'll only ever see repainting taking place during refurbishment (budget wise).
  6. 8222 came first. It was suggested/created by a bus operator, tested on 8222 (so 8222 was the first to receive the new Maple Leaf Livery), then implemented on all new buses (which were the Orion VIs).
  7. Westboro is actually a testament to how weakly built buses are now a days. Back on July 19, 2003, 1990 D40HF #9054 crashed into Lees Station (stop #1A) while on the 86 Elmvale at 7:50 AM. Shelter got destroyed and later demolished, 9054 got rebuilt (using parts from a TTC D40HF) and put back into service. This is why 9054 was the only D40HF to share the same style of windows that the TTC 1990 D40HF's had (which TTC prematurely retired). There was injuries, but no deaths. Considering we know the structures are built like tanks (given that the Westboro structure is still standing, and the struggle from the digger at Lincoln), and the fact a D40HF demolished one of those structures and returned to service after a rebuild, is a testament to how strongly built the D40HF's were. I've attached a photo from the Ottawa Citizen article that goes back on the history of OC Transpo crashes. It is tragic what happened at Westboro, and obviously OC Transpo itself has no control over bus durability, but it definitely doesn't look good on modern buses when comparing Westboro to the 2003 Lees accident.
  8. Just an thought for why the EZ Riders are not in service (too often): I presume it's to allow social distancing among passengers. Social distancing is not easy on small buses like the EZ Riders. Therefore I assume Cornwall is strategically using Orion VIs and Nova's for conventional service more often than the EZ Riders, due to our pandemic circumstances. I personally don't mind it, as it increases the chance of coming across one in service.
  9. That'd be the 98, not the 99. They started at Hawthorne and switched to a 97 at Greenboro, and carried on to Bells Corners during the PM Rush hour. This interline was discontinued when the 98 was routed via King Edward during the #ontrack2018 Transitway closure between Campus and Laurier in Spring 2016. However the trips on the 97 that started at Greenboro to Bells Corners (from the old 98 interline) continued until the 97 was chopped with the LRT opening. In 2017 they eliminated the destination sign code for the interline. During the 97 interline era, all 97 Bells Corners trips were 98 interlines during PM rush (which consisted of 5 trips). So if you wanted to go from the Airport to Bells Corners during that time, you would need to take a 97 Bayshore from the airport, and transfer between Greenboro and Bayshore. The only "proper" interlining that ever occurred on the 99 was the 189 and 245 trips ending at Riverview and continuing as 99 trips, and vice versa in the afternoon. This ended when the Strandherd-Armstrong Bridge (aka Vimy Bridge) opened and the 99 got extended to Barrhaven Center. By that point the 245 was merged with the 99 (later demerging and becoming the 299) so the only thing starting at Riverview was the 189 (now the 198). These trips were generally interlined with 94 runs that were terminating at Riverview (after a layover), and now generally interline with trips that finished either a 278 or a 74. Operator will NOT allow you stay onboard for those interlines. As for the 152 Bayshore trips, particularly on Sunday evenings. That would have been the wrong code used. I have first hand experience with that issue, as Code# "152" was the "152 Bayshore continues as 61" code, which to the operator on the ODK, it shows as just plain "152 Bayshore" making the operator think he typed in the proper code. However, the proper code was "52AA" for "152 Bayshore", which as you can see from the code, is something you would not guess when having to franticly enter the code manually because the Clever Device system decided it doesn't feel like signing your bus up properly. Another interline I feel that should be noted here is the 177 > 95 AM interline. This was eliminated when the 95 Cambrian extension took place (which effectively extended this interline to both directions, all day long). But it was the only 177 trips scheduled to go via Jockvale (instead of Longfields to Marketplace) to Barrhaven Centre Station. None that are advertised (right now at least) but there are a few unadvertised interlined. However I won't speak about them here in public realm, as I cannot recall them all right at this moment. Some of the "interlined trips" that I can recall right now are the ones that end mid-route to change directions (as technically that's an interline). Examples include the 24, 26, 28 (though you never usually have passengers at that point on the 28), 53 (as you no longer are scheduled to layup at Caldwell), 63, 64, and 81. Prior to post-rail, most of the 122 trips that went in the evenings from PDO to Trim were actually interlined off 95 trips (with very little scheduled time between the two), so they were a former non-advertised interline, operator dependent (as there was no policy requiring operators to keep passengers onboard for this interline). But the 38 replaced the 122 (at least in that section) and the 39 replaced the 95 (and 122 in the rest of the route that was not served by these interlines), so this non-advertised interline does not exist anymore. They essentially acted as a "95 Trim via Jeanne d'Arc North" trip except operated as a 122 for the last leg (as the 95 trips were advertised to the public as ending at Place d'Orleans). However the 95/122 interline was technically eliminated in 2018, I guess it caused too many issues. But those 3 trips to Trim prior to 2018 was the only real time you would catch a artic running the 122 (scheduled at least).
  10. At Stop 6694 (St-Laurent E Donald FS), there is a 304 Billings Bridge on the flag. 304 doesn't go anywhere near there. No photos due to the fact I was driving by that location.
  11. The issue with the 16 in relation to the 10 is the 10 Lyon arrives after the 16 has passed, and the 16 is not that frequent generally, so it's basically a non-factor when discussing the 10 issues (unless they were to revamp the scheduling, but knowing planning, they'll make it worse in some other aspect).
  12. 2018 was not free except for vets. The general public still had to pay. From: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/remembrance-day-2018-open-closed-1.4895781 It likely would have been mentioned in this press release, had it been free for the general public. Only mention is the free service for vets, which is how I remember it being prior to 2019. Also from 2019: https://www.ottawamatters.com/local-news/city-of-ottawa-to-offer-free-transit-on-remembrance-day-1738116 This article basically mentioned the intent of the free fare on remembrance day, which was supposed to be a day to test out the LRT (which was in fact suggested by River Ward Councillor Riley Brockington at the Transit Commission on many occasions prior to November 11, 2019) Therefore, it was introduced as a way to allow people to test out the LRT, but it appears to have continued as a free service day.
  13. Route 7: I honestly don't know why they didn't do that in the first place (as when they introduced the 17, that was a rumor that the 7X was being replaced, which did not occur) Route 10: There is also Sunday morning issues where the first 4 trips on the 10 DO NOT connect with any of the night services (missing two of the routes by minutes, or a 15 minute wait) I do believe the 10 should go to Rideau at all times, but definitely at least during LRT closure times.
  14. Yeah you're right, I see it under the contracts awarded section that they disclose to council every once in a while (I specifically see it at the May 15, 2019 meeting) But third party timetables are likely subject to the same social distancing regulations anyway, and I feel like both OC and the contractor probably mutually agreed that timetables are unessential material at this point of time, as if they are social distancing in the print shop, they are likely only printing urgent material only (due to lack of staff) UPDATE: Also after looking at who won the contract, and checking out their site, the contractor has shifted their priority to making medical masks and such (and less on printing materials for businesses) so they might have even dropped OC as a customer. As they proudly proclaim on their website that on the onset of the Covid-19 pandemic, they bought 3 mask making machines, and rejigged their warehouse to accommodate their new venture. (Plus mask making is probably a profitable venture at this point in time) So I feel it's safe to assume that OC has nobody right now to print the timetables. So unfortunately 2020 may just be a gap in everyone's collection. Luckily, like I said earlier, there has basically been no changes to require new material (unless we start seeing some cuts).
  15. That is correct. This is in NO WAY related to the Covid-19 shields. This item would have came to council regardless of Covid-19 or not. But they will be replacing the Covid-19 shower curtain regardless. The schedules were not printed because the office staff (including the print shop guys) are working from home. They work in close proximity when they print those pamphlets, so the task of actually printing them is on hold until Covid is gone. I will add this does NOT mean they are likely sitting at home doing nothing, as they likely got reassigned to other duties. So there will be a gap in timetables during this time in everyone's collection. Luckily nothing has really changed.
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