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  1. Also, SMART's main page lists the youth fare as $1.00, but it changed to 50¢ on May 1st, 2019 with the introduction of Dart.
  2. This looked a lot better in the editor. If the formatting continues to make it unreadable, I'm going to open the Google Doc that I was originally keeping. Route 261: The first 15 days of service (2018-01-01 to 2018-01-15), no fare is collected. 2018-02-09 - All FAST routes run local service for the day due to snow emergency. Service to Merriman / Flynn was added before 2018-06-01 - though the exact date is not known. The email about June service changes, sent on June 1st, says "There has been the addition of a new FAST stop just north of I-94 at Flynn which has already been installed for use and is currently serving all 261 trips." Service to the Amazon facility in Romulus was added to the schedule on 2018-06-18 - but because the road hadn't been constructed yet, such service didn't actually start until 2018-07-24. Service to Ecorse / Merriman added sometime before 2019-02-02. Service to Amazon at Vining is present in both directions, not northbound only. Routes 461/462: The first 15 days of service (2018-01-01 to 2018-01-15), no fare is collected. 2018-02-09 - All FAST routes run local service for the day due to snow emergency. 2018-02-08 - SB Woodward / 13 Mile stop removed; Woodward / Coolidge stops in both directions added The 461’s Civic Center Drive station already existed on 2019-03-05 (seen while mapping the 465 that day). Exact date of add is unknown. Routes 561/562/563: The first 15 days of service (2018-01-01 to 2018-01-15), no fare is collected. [563 only] 2018-01-09: NB Gratiot / Vergote and SB Gratiot / Meijer Gas Station were added to the route 2018-02-09 - All FAST routes run local service for the day due to snow emergency. [563 only] Service to Meijer Park & Ride was added to schedules on 2018-04-02; however, due to construction, service to the lot didn't actually begin until 2018-08-06 [562] The bus does not stop at SB Woodward / Warren. [561/562] North River Road is served only on weekdays and Thanksgiving. Route 255: 2019-06-17: Due to construction in the Dearborn Heights Target lot, the first westbound trip of the route is cut short to Dearborn Ice Skating Center. Route 330: 2019-06-17: Due to construction in the Dearborn Heights Target lot, all trips are cut short to Inkster/Ford. Route 400: 2019-06-17: Route resumes serving Northland Drive as DDOT prepares to cut the 16 back. Route 405: 2019-06-17: Route resumes serving Northland Drive as DDOT prepares to cut the 16 back. Route 420: 2014-10-13: Route begins serving Lathrup Village due to opt-in. Route 430: During detour between 2016-12-06 and 2017-06-19, route 430 served Royal Oak Meijer. School service: One northbound trip in the morning (third trip), one southbound trip in the afternoon (first trip) Route 445: 2016-06-06 - Woodward service in Downtown Detroit enters current "detour"; while new maps and schedules treat this routing as permanent, the detour remains as a service bulletin on the website (the oldest one still up, in fact). While the map shown is the current official map, it is inaccurate as the bus stays on Woodward bypassing downtown Royal Oak. Route 450: 2016-06-06 - Woodward service in Downtown Detroit enters current "detour"; while new maps and schedules treat this routing as permanent, the detour remains as a service bulletin on the website (the oldest one still up, in fact). Route 450 shares most, not all, of its length with the 462. The 462 doesn’t operate in downtown Birmingham nor north of Pike Street in Pontiac. Routes 460/465: 2016-06-06 - Woodward service in Downtown Detroit enters current "detour"; while new maps and schedules treat this routing as permanent, the detour remains as a service bulletin on the website (the oldest one still up, in fact). Route 530: The map shows a former routing of route 550. Route 550: 2014-04-07 - Service to Dalcoma Drive begins. While the map shown is the current official map (according to the website), it hasn’t been updated for the above change. Route 610: 2011-12-12: Route no longer serves Macomb Mall, instead ending (north end) at 15 Mile & Gratiot. 2016-06-06: Route 610 service in Downtown Detroit enters current "detour"; while new maps and schedules treat this routing as permanent, the detour remains as a service bulletin on the website (the oldest one still up, in fact). Route 710: 2017-09-05: Weekday peak trips serve Rutland and Northwestern to remain connected to route 851. 2018-01-01: With the introduction of what were then route 851 “Northland Loop” trips (which later became route 849), 710’s Rutland/Northwestern routing was eliminated. Route 730: 2019-01-07: Eastbound trips are rerouted at Royal Oak Transit Center to serve Lafayette side First weekday bus is 5:48am (the “a” is missing) On weekdays, only the Macomb terminal operates this route. Route 740: 2011-12-12: Route no longer serves Macomb Mall, instead ending at 12 Mile & Harper briefly before being extended to 13 Mile & Little Mack. Route 760: 2011-12-12: Route no longer serves Macomb Mall, instead ending at 13 Mile & Little Mack. 2015-09-05: Route no longer serves 14 Mile between Crooks and Delemere, instead using Meijer Drive to connect. While the map on the wiki page matches the one on the website, it is out-of-date due to the above change. Route 780: 2011-12-12: Route no longer serves Macomb Mall, instead ending at 15 Mile & Gratiot. 2016-12-26: Due to a sinkhole at 15 Mile and Hayes, route is put on a long-term detour for repairs. 2017-12-06: Above detour ends. The map shown on the page shows a former routing of the 760. Route 805: 2014-01-06: Service is detoured to 5 Mile & Telegraph due to then-pending long-term construction on I-96. 2014-09-29: Service to 5 Mile & Telegraph ends. 2018-09-03: Express trip that bypasses Fenton Park & Ride is eliminated. While the map shown on the wiki page matches the website, it is out-of-date due to the above change. Route 849: 2019-06-17: Northbound routing through WSU now uses Warren instead of Forest. The map shown on the page shows a former routing of the 805. Route 851: 2019-06-17: Northbound routing through WSU now uses Warren instead of Forest. The map shown on the page shows a former routing of the 805.
  3. Now on weekends, and permanently starting in March, the People Mover will run counter-clockwise again.
  4. I saw 1914 and 1960 for the first time today, welcoming the Detroit Youth Choir back to the city. The destination signs read, in full: CONGRATULATIONS WELCOME HOME! DETROIT YOUTH CHOIR
  5. Got a pic of 3806 while I was riding it for OpenStreetMap, during an eastbound 780 when it got a midroute break at Somerset. Speaking of "riding it for OpenStreetMap", I'm in the process of uploading this changeset, which contains all the (not already mapped) stops on the 780, including the ones that were missing from the 460 and 445 - thus completing the last two Woodward routes, and Project Woodward is done!
  6. Are you sure 1019 wasn't deadheading to the first trip of a run? The fact that the run number says 03F also makes me think that.\ Edit: As for the 38, nope! The 3:40 bus is a full-length (at least as far as off-peak goes) trip, from Gratiot/French to Millennium Park via Harrison. The 3:50 bus is the short-starter.
  7. Update to the picture of 3832 - it's the same picture, but for some reason the version above is at half res (my phone took the picture at full res), and I also used the opportunity to update the watermark.
  8. I've finally got some pictures I'm proud enough of to post here. I took pics of 3801 and 3834 laying over at the Phoenix Center on March 5th, and 3832 in service on southbound Woodward (doing a route that coach should not be assigned to) today.
  9. Just found a report from SMART that includes ridership numbers for 2018. http://smartpathplan.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/SMART_ExistingConditionsDraft-v12.pdf
  10. SMART has officially announced the April 2019 service changes, which will necessitate three changes to the wiki (those are listed first): Route 461: New stops added at Big Beaver / Crooks in both directions These stops are already part of routes 430 and 465, which both operate only during peak hours These stops are also stops 7 and 15 on the Big Beaver Shuttle Red Line These stops are also the closest any FAST route comes to a Flint MTA connection, being under half a mile from the Auburn Hills route's Wilshire Drive stop Route 849: A couple of changes here: The first southbound trip is no longer an express past WSU, but will serve the midtown area just like all other 849s. It has been assimilated. Northbound routes will now use the 8 Mile / Greenfield exit, just like the 851 does, to serve the park & ride lot at the beginning of the loop. Route 567: A new trip will now operate starting around 5am at Lenox Meijer. Route 510: The first peak-hour southbound trip will now continue to serve VA Hospital, and also runs 5-6 minutes later. Route 851: The final southbound trip now runs about five minutes later.
  11. Saw this on twitter - the worst part about it is that DDOT never had a route "8 Crosstown". It was formerly 14 Crosstown, but on September 1st of 2018, it became 8 Warren.
  12. Random fact: The first route to start the weekday schedule is not one of the 24-hour routes. Edit: It's also not the topmost trip on its own schedule.
  13. By the way, SMART is holding public hearings about proposed joint fare changes with DDOT.
  14. I'll pm you. Not sure what the advertising rules are on these forums and also don't have it set up to be a public server.
  15. @160 Downriver, I'd like to turn your attention to my above post, which I'm editing as I see more buses go live (since I can't edit the wiki directly). The information in that post is sourced by a tool that automatically checks certain bus numbers and posts in Discord when they go live - though on the day of launch it only had 3800-3809 (in addition to other buses not in the 3800 series - it was originally made to watch for 3001 and 3002) which is why my information is incomplete for '30 and '35. In theory, one could even find that driver on the trips I do have (say, the weekday 14:57 to 16:12 southbound 462) and ask what route the first trip of their run is to find out what route that bus started on. The source for the tool can be found here, made by @alisonc. As a result, I can verify that some information you added to the wiki is wrong, namely 3805, '07, and '12. If we want to discredit that tool and rely on sightings only, I can still personally verify that 3812 was live on the 17th - I rode it myself that night. Edit to add: The issues I mentioned in this post have been fixed. Thanks!
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