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  1. The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    Good to see the roster section of the CPTDB wiki has been updated. However, it still lists 38 and 39 as being retired. Both were in service this week on route 503. In the Retired section, the 1985 order from Saab-Scania consisted of units 800-846. Not quite as sure of the 1987 units. 501-585? 501-594? 501-595? Gillig buses 774-784 from 1996 are still missing from the list. And there was no Gillig series 981-1004 in 1984.
  2. The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    Interesting that OTS put only four new buses (674-677) on the road in 2017. Especially since we have 21-year old vehicles (the lower 300s) still in service. The CPTDB wiki also lists 678-698 as part of our fleet. Have these buses been ordered, manufactured or delivered? In any case, this may be our last order of 40-foot diesel buses as the Division of Purchasing website lists a Request for Interest for 40-foot all electric transit buses: RFI-DTS-1157909.
  3. The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    185-194 and 870-879 are diesel buses.
  4. The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    Bus #677 was decorated for the annual City Lights Parade. Maybe next year it will be one of the new electric buses.
  5. The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    For those who haven’t heard, route 2 will offer 24/7 service starting Sunday. Until now, the only buses running all night were on route 40.
  6. The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    Buses 142-150 are diesel, not hybrids.
  7. The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    I have no problem with OTS running buses from the last century if nothing else is available. And I have no intention of giving Rotidua or anybody else a thrashing. But the fact remains that the newer buses are far superior, both ecologically and in passenger comfort. And if new buses are here, OTS is doing riders a disservice by keeping them on the sidelines. The only information we have that buses 678-689 and 24-27 even exist is from a post in this forum in September, 2016, stating they were parked at the Pearl City garage. A driver did tell me there are eight 29-foot buses, but I have learned that drivers are not as interested in this stuff as we are and are not necessarily a reliable source. In most cities, new bus purchases are proudly announced, but both OTS and Gillig like to be secretive for some reason. Hopefully there really are some new buses ready to go into service. That would mean I will no longer have to let a 300 go by and wait for a low floor bus. And maybe I can soon stop dreading a mid-day 800 on long, busy routes such as A, C, 52 and 55. With enough new buses, the 800s could be used primarily for rush hour service, as the 300s are now.
  8. The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    So does anyone have information on when we might see some more new buses out on the streets?
  9. The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    Nobody has posted for awhile so I’m going to bring up an old topic. In September, 2016, it was reported in this forum that new 40-foot buses up to #689 and new 29-foot buses up to #27 were parked at the Pearl City garage. As of October 7, 2017, the highest numbers in service were #677 and #23. If last year’s post is accurate, it means the remaining new buses have been gathering dust for more than a year. Is that even possible? If true, the reason must be that OTS wants to get as many miles as possible out of its 20-year-old high floor buses. That’s a fine goal, but I wish they would consider that riders (and the atmosphere) do not benefit from this policy. The old buses are anything but “green,” air conditioning is inconsistent at best, and the high floors are especially difficult for disabled seniors like me. Even with my walker, I can easily step on and off a low floor bus without even asking the driver to lower the ramp. With a high floor, I have to use the lift twice, surely annoying for both the driver and other passengers as many of my rides are short. I sincerely hope that cleaner, more accessible and more up to date buses will be on the streets soon. If anyone has information, please post it.
  10. The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    Can someone explain to me again why the HEA system often is unavailable on holiday mornings (like today)? With a different schedule from a usual Monday, it seems especially important to have the system up and running.
  11. The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    If I remember correctly, TMC 201 was supposed to be an early version of an electric bus, but TMC went out of business before the project was completed. Skipping #666 seems to be standard OTS procedure. And, you are correct, 181-184 do not have destination signs in the left front side window.
  12. The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    According to the HEA, 674 was on route A today, 675 and 677 were on route 55 and 676 was on the PH3 Express. Could the slowest rollout of new buses in the history of the world finally be resuming?
  13. The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    Whoever put together the historical roster for TheBus CPTDB Wiki did a great job. Lots of work and lots of interesting stuff. I'm a relative newcomer to Hawaii bus watching, but I wanted to offer a little information picked up during the few years I've lived here. Active buses 1. 20-23 are in service. I believe 24-27 have also been delivered. They are 29-foot Gilligs. 2. 32, 33, 34, 36, 38 and 39 are the only Optimas running recently. 3. 230-297 were delivered in 3 batches: 230-269, 270-279 and 280-297. The first group came in 2012 and the last group in 2013. Can't remember which year the middle group arrived. 4. 601-629 were delivered in 2014, 630-663 in 2015 and 664-6?? in 2016. 664-673 (x666) were the only new ones in service as of Memorial Day, 2017. No idea when higher numbered 600s will be on the road or how high the numbers will go. 5. 659 has a destination sign on the left side front window. Also, 185-194, 870-879 and the 20s. Looks like this is the new standard for OTS. Retired buses 1. In the 1993 TMC buses, 201 was never delivered. 2. Saab-Scania bus numbers delivered to Oahu were 800-846 in 1985 and 501-594 in 1987-88. There were actually two 556s. The first was damaged in transit , and a replacement was sent a few months later. 3. In the 1995 Gilligs, there was no 666 (same as in 2016). 4. In the 1996 Gilligs, the purchase included 774-784 as well as 785-795. Don't know whether they had the same specifications. 5. I never saw, nor have I ever met anyone who saw, 1984 Gilligs 981-1004. I have seen those numbers mentioned before but have no evidence they ever existed. Could they actually be 476-499?
  14. The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    194 has been sidelined for quite awhile now. Hopefully it's just routine maintenance. Before we get the new 300s or 700s, I'm expecting the remaining 200s (230-238) to be transferred to Middle Street and more 600s (up to 689) to go into service at Pearl City). Also, artics 70-79 are due to be replaced soon (by 880-889?). And more new small buses to replace the 40s and remaining 30s.
  15. The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    107 has finally been repainted. That leaves 102, 104, 105 and 106 as the only articulated buses in their original rainbow colors. As far as I know, 522 is still the only repainted bus among the 2003 Gilligs.