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  1. The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    If I remember correctly, TMC 201 was supposed to be an early version of an electric bus, but TMC went out of business before the project was completed. Skipping #666 seems to be standard OTS procedure. And, you are correct, 181-184 do not have destination signs in the left front side window.
  2. The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    According to the HEA, 674 was on route A today, 675 and 677 were on route 55 and 676 was on the PH3 Express. Could the slowest rollout of new buses in the history of the world finally be resuming?
  3. The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    Whoever put together the historical roster for TheBus CPTDB Wiki did a great job. Lots of work and lots of interesting stuff. I'm a relative newcomer to Hawaii bus watching, but I wanted to offer a little information picked up during the few years I've lived here. Active buses 1. 20-23 are in service. I believe 24-27 have also been delivered. They are 29-foot Gilligs. 2. 32, 33, 34, 36, 38 and 39 are the only Optimas running recently. 3. 230-297 were delivered in 3 batches: 230-269, 270-279 and 280-297. The first group came in 2012 and the last group in 2013. Can't remember which year the middle group arrived. 4. 601-629 were delivered in 2014, 630-663 in 2015 and 664-6?? in 2016. 664-673 (x666) were the only new ones in service as of Memorial Day, 2017. No idea when higher numbered 600s will be on the road or how high the numbers will go. 5. 659 has a destination sign on the left side front window. Also, 185-194, 870-879 and the 20s. Looks like this is the new standard for OTS. Retired buses 1. In the 1993 TMC buses, 201 was never delivered. 2. Saab-Scania bus numbers delivered to Oahu were 800-846 in 1985 and 501-594 in 1987-88. There were actually two 556s. The first was damaged in transit , and a replacement was sent a few months later. 3. In the 1995 Gilligs, there was no 666 (same as in 2016). 4. In the 1996 Gilligs, the purchase included 774-784 as well as 785-795. Don't know whether they had the same specifications. 5. I never saw, nor have I ever met anyone who saw, 1984 Gilligs 981-1004. I have seen those numbers mentioned before but have no evidence they ever existed. Could they actually be 476-499?
  4. The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    194 has been sidelined for quite awhile now. Hopefully it's just routine maintenance. Before we get the new 300s or 700s, I'm expecting the remaining 200s (230-238) to be transferred to Middle Street and more 600s (up to 689) to go into service at Pearl City). Also, artics 70-79 are due to be replaced soon (by 880-889?). And more new small buses to replace the 40s and remaining 30s.
  5. The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    107 has finally been repainted. That leaves 102, 104, 105 and 106 as the only articulated buses in their original rainbow colors. As far as I know, 522 is still the only repainted bus among the 2003 Gilligs.
  6. The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    Bus 187, out of service for about a year, is operating today on route 42.
  7. The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    Might also consider buying some Novabus artics instead of always New Flyer.
  8. The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    Bus #244 is in service on route 54 today. That means: 1. More 200s are being transferred to Middle Street (239-245?). 2. More 670s are about to hit the streets, possibly up to 680. 3. More 300s are heading for The Great Transit Center in the Sky.
  9. The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    Buses 23 (route 416) and 21 (route 71) are showing on the HEA today. 958-965 and 664-673 (x666) also appear to be coming on line. Hope that means we will be able to track the next rollout of new buses soon.
  10. The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    Another rough day for the HEA system. The only buses appearing this morning were 29-footers and 35-footers. As the hours passed, some 40-footers and 60-footers were added, but still many missing as of this post. I am wondering why this always seems to happen on Sundays and holidays. I also wonder if there is a more serious problem, preventing new buses from being added to the system. The latest HEVs started revenue service on December 1, more than 3 months ago. It has never taken this long before.
  11. The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    The HEA system was completely down this morning with all buses showing "No GPS." I often wonder whether the cleaning woman kicks the plug out overnight or if somebody just isn't paying attention. Could it be they are finally attempting to add the numbers of the new buses that went into service in December?
  12. The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    We should note that all 16 artics from 2003 have been repainted, along with 11 of the 16 2002 artics. 102 and 104-107 still show the rainbows. They stopped the work last summer, maybe because they were short of artics and didn't want to take any out of service. Or maybe the 2002 buses will be retired sooner than expected, and they decided it wasn't worth it.
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    Forgot to mention that the only forward-facing seats on the 29-footers are "upstairs" in the back. The front seats are all bowling alley style.
  14. The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    522 is on route 3 today, Feb. 2. Haven't seen any other repainted 500s but will keep watching.
  15. The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    Bus 249 has been on routes 57A and 43 today. So I'm guessing 246-254 are being transferred to Middle Street. That would leave only 16 of the 200-series buses at Pearl City, and they will likely be moved out as more new units go into service. It also means more of the 1997 Phantoms will soon be on their way to Bus Heaven.