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  1. Yes, sorry about that... There was an issue starting on Sunday where the hosting server became completely unresponsive... The support team for the company that runs the hosting was disappointingly slow to respond and we weren't able to get it running again until yesterday evening. Everything should be functional now, though we're missing trip history for a couple days - I have it available from my dev server so might try to splice it in sometime. We're going to look at improving the hosting and backup alternatives to try avoid long outages like that in the future.
  2. Hello! Working on some updates to BC Transit Victoria, including dealing with some routes that have been renamed. Would like to get the pages moved, thanks! https://cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php/Victoria_Regional_Transit_System_route_24_'_Cedar_Hill_/_Admirals_Walk' is now 'Cedar Hill / Tillicum Centre' (if we could remove the space from before Cedar that would also be great) https://cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php/Victoria_Regional_Transit_System_route_25_'Maplewood_/_Admirals_Walk' is now 'Maplewood / Tillicum Centre' https://cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php/Victoria_Regional_Transit_System_route_53_'Colwood_Exchange_/_Langford_via_Atkins' is now 'Victoria General Hospital / Langford Exch'
  3. https://www.bctransit.com/nextride-faq NextRide FAQ has been updated to reflect the status of the NextRide 2.0 rollout over the summer, now available in 27 communities. A few interesting notes from the bottom section Is the NextRide project complete? Additional small systems will have NextRide installed in 2023 Also in 2023, current NextRide 1.0 systems will be updated to use 2.0 instead (I believe this was known/expected already) The NextRide website will become obsolete with the lack of 1.0 systems, in favour of mobile apps
  4. Unlikely, its GPS at the time placed it at Patterson Station which is also where it was lasted signed in, mid October. Likely a combination of incorrect login and broken tech. Based on SorryBusFull data, the block it was "on" was run by 9546, then 9522 for a brief period, then 9588 shortly after.
  5. Wiki has always been out of date, no one ever really seems sure what the exact fleet numbers are. 2020, 2021, and 2022 orders are missing entirely. I know the 2020 order covers at least 20751 - 20792 as I have seen those two numbers before. Not sure if any of those years have Girardin orders as well or if it's just Microbirds. If anyone happens to know the specifics and wants to add them in that'd be great, or if you don't have wiki editing access lemme know and I'm happy to update it
  6. It's been there for a long time I think. Assuming you noticed it "enter service" on BCTracker, that's just the first time it's logged in since we started recording Prince George data. I think it was in for maintenance or something since I remember seeing it logged in before we added PG to the public website
  7. The ones that are late are caused by a bug with the time calculation. It happens with blocks that start really early or end really late, so it gets confused about the service day. If you do the math, 60 minutes x 24 hours = 1440 minutes, which is close to the incorrect times shown - basically it's saying those buses are one day behind schedule. The last one is probably just signed in to the wrong trip or something.
  8. Hello! We use Compass here: https://www.compasscard.ca/ Available to buy at Skytrain stations and other select locations like London Drugs. Should be a full list somewhere on that website. Hope that helps!
  9. Creston isn't even the only one under the BCT umbrella! Fort St. John and Dawson Creek also fall into the same boat of being permanently on MST. But because they're more isolated, it isn't as noticeable from a GTFS perspective since all of their routes are contained within a single timezone. It gets a bit more complicated when you start having trips across multiple timezones at once. With Creston and the rest of East Kootenay, you have some trips in one timezone, some trips in another, and even some that cross the timezone boundary (looking at you, route 56 Creston/Cranbrook). The good news is, GTFS fully supports trips across multiple timezones (one example I remember seeing a while ago was the GTFS for Via Rail, which has trips going all the way across Canada), so there isn't really anything preventing BCT from merging Creston with East Kooteny. In fact there's plenty of arguments to be made for why they should do it. For one, with the current strategy they'll have to update the Creston GTFS every time DST starts or ends in order to set the correct timezone, because for some reason they're currently using America/Vancouver instead of America/Creston which would simply update automatically. For another, they don't currently include route 56 in the GTFS at all because it crosses the timezone boundary, which they don't seem interested in supporting (lazy developers, I tell ya). And of course it would help to unify everything a bit more overall, which isn't really related to the timezone stuff but it's still a reasonable point. So I honestly can't really say why they decided to keep them separate, aside from the fact that timezones are definitely a pretty big factor (because, of course, developers hate having to deal with them!) For anyone who is not interested in timezones or GTFS, I apologize that you had to be subjected to the above word wall!
  10. Came here to say that new systems are available, but looks like I've already been beat to it! I can provide some technical answers to the above questions though... I don't know why some systems were chosen over others to receive realtime initially, but there are two reasons why I wouldn't be surprised if more are added in the future. First a bit of background - unlike NextRide 1.0, in which systems were IDed by a name (victoria, comox, etc), NextRide 2.0 systems are IDed by a number. This is why we're able to show all these new systems before they've technically been fully released; we can simply plug in different numbers to see if anything shows up. The first reason I think more systems are coming is because some numbers were skipped, so it's absolutely possible more will be added in the future to fill in those gaps. The second reason is because a bonus system actually already exists that wasn't originally announced: Mount Waddington. If you look at realtime info for All Systems on BCTracker, you may occasionally see some of their shuttles online. Unlike other new systems there is no trip/block data available, only bus positions, which is why it only exists as a ghostly hidden system on the website. But given that it exists when it wasn't supposed to, I have high hopes that other systems will be added as well. Terrace and Kitimat are a bit weird, because there's actually separate system IDs for both of them - but they both have the exact same trip/block data, and buses only show up for the Kitimat ID. It certainly makes sense to have them combined, so I'm not entirely sure what that's all about. I'll definitely keep an eye on it to see if anything ends up changing about that. One other thing I'll mention - you may notice that Creston Valley is separate from the other East Kootenay systems, even though the routes there were renumbered so they could all be combined. The reason for that is every software developer's worst nightmare: timezones. Since Creston does not observe daylight savings, half the year its schedules are an hour behind the rest of East Kootenay, making it difficult to integrate them nicely. So it seems BC Transit decided to say screw it and keep it as a separate system.
  11. They're probably seeing the Novas on the 394 which is run by RTC now. No transfers afaik
  12. https://www.bctransit.com/whistler/news?nid=1529718160300 Service resuming on June 22nd, free until at least July 3rd
  13. I remember having that theory a while ago about the physical sign changes, but was met with skepticism from some folks... glad to see it's confirmed! The main reason is because unlike other routes that have received the new "<street name> to <terminus>" headsigns, the original names for the 3, 8, and 10 used the street name as the southbound destination, so for example SB stops on Granville say "10 Granville". With these headsign changes, ideally those stops should say "10 Marine Drive Station" instead, naming the terminus rather than the street. To avoid having to change the physical signs (which of course costs money that is hard to come by), Translink kept it so that the Main/Fraser/Granville names continue to imply southbound, and the Downtown name continues to imply northbound. It's also the reason why routes like 406 and 408 have been updated but 401, 402, 403, 404, and 405 haven't. The 406 bus stop signs already said "406 Steveston" and "406 Brighouse Station", so sticking on "Railway to ..." to the front of the headsigns didn't require any signage changes. But the 401 which also goes between Steveston and Brighouse would require changing the signs to say "401 Steveston" instead of "401 One Road" to avoid confusion.
  14. Welcome! Going in reverse order here... Fares: you can find all the info you need here: https://www.translink.ca/transit-fares/pricing-and-fare-zones. To summarize the basics, there's a single zone fare for buses, while skytrain and seabus are grouped into 3 zones. On weekends and after 6:30pm, everything is treated as a single zone. I'd definitely recommend getting a Compass card if you're going to be riding buses/trains a lot, it makes the fares cheaper and it makes stuff like transfers and day passes much easier. Fanning spots: I don't do much photography or spotting personally, so I'll let someone else cover this one Route/bus recommendations: you'll probably want to start in the core downtown area, there's a decent amount of variety there. It's a great place to see Vancouver's trolleys, and there's a decent chance of spotting one of the few remaining D40LFs. From Waterfront Station you can also take the Seabus to North Vancouver, which is a nice scenic trip. North Van is mostly dominated by Novas, but if you take the R2 RapidBus to Park Royal you'll find more variety there from West Vancouver's buses. A quick trip across the Lion's Gate Bridge will get you back downtown from there. Taking the Expo Line south-east from downtown, you'll find some good variety at places like Metrotown Station, which has stuff like XN40s and community shuttles which are less common downtown. At Commercial-Broadway Station you'll find the Millennium Line as well as the 99 B-Line, the busiest bus route in North America. That route is pretty slow at the moment because of the construction of the Broadway skytrain line. It also connects to the Canada Line, which runs between downtown and Richmond, as well as the airport. Along that line you might be able to find some of our battery buses at Marine Drive Station on route 100, the only route they currently do. They're pretty uncommon at the moment so I'd recommend checking ahead of time if any are out. Also along the Canada Line is Bridgeport Station, where you can find a bunch of suburban buses including double deckers and Orion Vs. Hope that's a somewhat helpful starting point! If you haven't seen them before there's some good websites that make tracking buses and viewing routes easier, including http://tcomm.bustrainferry.com/mobile/, https://sorrybusfull.com/, and Translink's own https://www.translink.ca/next-bus. Enjoy your trip!
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