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  1. 14 hours ago, cprted said:

    I'm going to need to go out for a smoke after watching that ... 


    All joking aside, I'm loving the new livery on those charges and really love the "Day 1" anniversary version. 


  2. On 3/16/2021 at 8:40 PM, Dane said:

    Please, join me in foaming hard: https://youtu.be/TOZdzbDpftI

    I'm going to need to go out for a smoke after watching that ... 


    All joking aside, I'm loving the new livery on those charges and really love the "Day 1" anniversary version. 

  3. I think if the withdrawal of intercity bus service was ever going to be a catalyst for improving passenger rail service in Canada, we would have seen it a few years ago when Greyhound Canada folded ... restoration of Vancouver-PG service over the former BCR, improved Skeena service levels, the return of Calgary-Edmonton trains could have all been good solutions to connect towns reliant on bus services ... but aside from a few op eds in local papers, there is no evidence that the powers that be even considered it as a solution. 


    While I'm completely in favour of restoring passenger service on Vancouver Island ... heck, lets go from broke and push for the line to be extended to Campbell River and run a twice daily service up and down the corridor ... but as cool as all that would be, it is a complete pipedream in the most favourable of economic climates ... which is not our present reality.

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  4. 22 hours ago, InfiNorth said:

    Rocky Mountaineer has confirmed that suspension of freight on the BCR corridor will not impact the operations of RMR trains. Ask and ye shall receive. 



    The question then becomes, but for how long? I have to believe that CN is downgrading the track maintenance regime along with the suspension of freight service. Only paying for the least amount of trackwork possible to keep the line technically in service. 

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  5. 3 hours ago, InfiNorth said:

    Yikes. I thought the Skeena was still running with the Park Car, though?

    The Skeena normally runs with a Park car, but I don't know if they have been this fall.  With no Prestige service and the Skyline cars not accessible to passengers, I suspect the Skyline and Park cars won't be in The Canadian's consist ... it'll be super weird seeing it with no domes. 

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  6. 3 hours ago, InfiNorth said:

    Did the Kamloops-Vernon-Kelowna train originate from Kamloops Jct. or Kamloops? If it were the latter, then perhaps you are right, it was was a transfer bus.

    Started at Kamloops Jct, then to Kamloops and onto CP line heading east out of Kamloops to Campbell Creek where the CN Okanagan Sub started. 

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  7. On 10/14/2020 at 7:09 PM, InfiNorth said:

    That is the downtown CN station, and that bus is likely a connecting bus to Kelowna (just a guess). Once the Super Continental was running and transcontinental trains no longer called at the CN station downtown, it saw no passenger trains as the only ones passing through downtown would be the Canadian and Dominion, both of which would stop at Kamloops CP. Thus it would be illogical for the bus to go to a station with no passenger services - though this shot looks like it's from the late 40s. Do you know a year on this?

    That's a great photo!  Even though transcontinental trains stopped servicing the downtown CN station by the early 50s, the Kamloops-Vernon-Kelowna train stopped there until it was discontinued in 1963.  The only bus service advertised in my 1957 CN timetable in the area has a twice daily Kelowna to Penticton run, but nothing out of Kamloops at that time (at least nothing advertised in the timetable). I'd certainly be interested to know what this bus service was, local within Kamloops or if it connected to elsewhere. 

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  8. 3 hours ago, Urban Sky said:

    Back in the 1930s, "The Continental Limited" served Kamloops' CN Station in between two separate stops at Kamloops North:
    Source: Canadian National Railways timetable (effective 1931-06-28)

    In westbound direction only, this practice survived until 1949 (and without a second stop at Kamloops North):

    Source: Canadian National timetable (effective 1949-04-24)

    One of the other interesting (at least to me) features of CN passenger service in Kamloops is the interchange between the transcontinental service and train 192/193 (Kamloops-Vernon-Kelowna).  Train 3 and 4 each had a sleeper designated for Kelowna and when the train arrived in Kamloops, the sleeper would be cut off the train and left at Kamloops Jct. to be picked up by the southbound #192, thus avoiding having to wakeup and detrain sleeper passengers bound for Kelowna in the wee hours of the morning. 

  9. 31 minutes ago, InfiNorth said:

    My question was how would a train make use of that station while on CP trackage - that station only has access to the connecting branch line between CP and CN trackage, not the mainline. A train eastbound would have to back into that station.

    The Kamloops CPR station is located on the CPR mainline.  I think you might be thinking of the old CN station that is currently used by RMR and KHR. It is a little odd as CN had 2 Kamloops stations, "Kamloops" (the old station downtown) and "Kamloops Junction" (near where Kamloops North currently is).


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    32 minutes ago, InfiNorth said:

    Back when the Canadian and Super Continental both served Kamloops, where did the Canadian stop? Neither the existing Kamloops North nor the old downtown station seem to be possible for a train without it backing into the station. 

    3/4 used the current Kamloops North on the CN route while 1/2 used the CP station off 3rd Ave. 

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    On 10/9/2020 at 6:39 PM, InfiNorth said:

    As a completely new question, what's with the spur tracks at Coquitlam Central? They don't really make sense for a future extension to PoCo as inbound (VCCC-bound) trains from PoCo would end up sharing a platform with the outbound (Douglas-bound) trains, which would be inconvenient to say the least. 

    While there are lots of things we can criticize translink for, one thing they do reasonably well is future-proofing new infrastructure.  Technically there is no PoCo extension on the books, but it's not inconceivable to see that another eastward Skytrain expansion could become a priority after the Broadway and Surrey/Langley extensions are built.  They did similar future-proofing for a Tri-Cities expansion when Lougheed Station was built.

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  12. 6 hours ago, InfiNorth said:

    VIA1 as in the Canadian? That seems like an odd decision - local travel is what makes sense these days, not transcontinental, predominantly unecessary tourist transportation.

    The VIA site still show The Canadian service cancelled until Nov 1. 

  13. VIA did trial RDCs on the PR-PR-Jasper route a number of years ago and ran them for the better part of a year, I believe, but they reverted back to conventional trains. I think it would be unlikely for them to try RDCs again in the near future.

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  14. On 5/4/2019 at 11:52 PM, Community Shuttle said:

    There's this beat up minibus being used as some sort of storage shed in the parking lot of a strip mall on Westminster Highway in Richmond, BC. Didn't think too much of it while passing by until I noticed the remnants of what is almost certainly the BC Ambulance livery on it so I stopped to grab a pic. Bits of the same livery are present on the other side of the bus. Does anyone know if BC Ambulance actually had minibuses like this and what they might have been used for?

    Someone in a Facebook group suggested it was a BC Transit bus but that's definitely not the BC Transit livery. Google isn't helping either.



    Used to operate out of East Van as part of the BCAS transfer fleet. I believe it could carry 3 or 4 wheelchair patients.

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  15. While I certainly stand to be corrected, but I believe service on Vancouver Island has never been operated directly by VIA.  Before service was suspended, SRY operated the Budd Cars under contract. 

  16. On 3/9/2020 at 10:21 AM, InfiNorth said:

    As recently as the 90s, Port Coquitlam was still a stop for The Canadian as it still ran on the tracks North of the river at that point.

    Under CP and the first year under VIA when the Canadian ran out of the CPR station on Cordova (now Waterfront), the Canadian stopped in Coquitlam.

    Even after the amalgamation of all VIA services out of Pacific Central, both The Canadian and The Supercontinental listed a stop at "Port Coquitlam (New Westminster)" which was off Kingsway Ave in Poco. 

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  17. 36 minutes ago, InfiNorth said:

    That's my idea. We need more than two Amtrak trains a day and more than just downtown Vancouver as a station. Right now the Amtrak service (understandably) only serves downtown Vancouver, which has little use to Canadians for local service. I feel like an Amtrak-VIA agreement like what we see on the Maple Leaf would be great, especially if we could see a stop in North Surrey near Scott Road so that people outside the Vancouver core area would be able to use it without dealing with the hell that is the Vancouver core area. We also need the island corridor reopened but that's a different can of worms for a different thread. 

    I think the most realistic scenario for another stop north of Bellingham would be to reactive the Blaine depot. Certainly easier for people in Surrey/Langley/Whiterock to cross at the border at Peace Arch and get on the train in Blaine than travelling all the way into Vancouver.  There is an active movement within Blaine to have this station reactivated as well. At one point VIA approached BNSF about using the former GN station in New West as a stop for The Canadian and it went over like a lead ballon ... 

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  18. On 3/4/2020 at 4:16 PM, smallspy said:

    Or maybe our deepest fantasies are coming true... we're getting a Western corridor... or not. 

    Well, considering that this has been a fairly regular occurrence since the launch of WCE in 1995......probably not.



    Yup. WCE has had an agreement with VIA to supply backup power since the beginning.


    Besides, where would a VIA Rail western corridor service go to?  Vancouver-Kamloops? I think Vancouver's best chance at corridor style rail service lies with the partnership between BC, Washington, and Oregon, for a faster and more frequent Cascade service. 

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  19. On 1/5/2020 at 5:56 PM, M. Parsons said:

    What you've heard is along what I've been able to find. 

    @Tom1122 posted something in reply to me, but, nothing shows up!?!?

    The UP "Steam Club" sent out an update today, including information about the retirement of 3985. This is the first official confirmation of the Challenger's retirement that I've seen.  While not surprising at all, sad that we won't get to see a 4-8-8-4 and a 4-6-6-4 running together ... c'est la vie



    The Challenger No. 3985 Will Remain Officially Retired

    Since work was completed on No. 4014 people have asked about the fate of The Challenger No. 3985.

    The short answer: There are no plans to restore No. 3985. Many years of hard operation have resulted in the locomotive requiring a complete frame-up restoration similar to what was needed to make No. 4014 operational. Historically, Union Pacific's steam program has had two steam locomotives on its roster, and that count will remain the same moving forward.

    No. 3985 last operated in "regular" train service in 1957. It was retired in 1962 and stored in the roundhouse in Cheyenne, Wyoming, until 1975 when it was placed on display near the Cheyenne depot. A group of Union Pacific employees volunteered their services to restore the locomotive to running condition in 1981. 

    Where No. 3985 will ultimately reside is still in question, but it's safe to say the locomotive will remain officially retired from service.

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