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  1. Alexander Dennis

    For HK, the first batch 2003 to 2013, is called E500 Trident, 2nd batch 2013 to 2016 called Enviro 500 MMC NG, 3rd batch 2016 to now called Enviro 500 facelift(Or E50D) For GO Transit(or North America), 14' tall's one (Go's 8000) is called Enviro 500, 13' 6" tall one (Go's 8100's) is called Enviro 500 Low Height(Go-Anywhere), 12' 10" tall one(Go's 8300's) are called Enviro 500 SuperLo
  2. Alexander Dennis

    TOTALLY incorrect! Enviro 500 was first introduced in HK back in 2003. The model(including chassis and body) didn't change until 2013, when the chassis was going over major change, which includes the placement of the engine and transmission. The old "Trident" specification chassis on the old E500 is gone and replaced by a new chassis configuration. Of course, the body was changed as well in 2013 which they adopted the Enviro 400 body(the same appearance as Go Transit's 8100's series), and ADL named these batch of E500 "MMC" NG. The body was redesigned in 2016 but the chassis remained unchanged, which is why it is called E500 FACELIFT now in HK (or E50D according to the builder plate) For North America, GO Transit's 8100's series chassis almost remain unchanged as 8000's, except for the placement of the fuel tank as they cannot be placed underneath the staircase anymore due to the drop of 6" in body heights. Hence there is no major model change at all except a new body style(note the placement of the fuel tank on this batch is located right above the 3rd axle and occupied a lot of interior space, which at least 9 seats space were wasted). They just called it "Enviro 500 Low Height Go-Anywhere" in North America but not MMC or anything, as those terms only applied to Asia's market for them to identify different batches out. Until SuperLo E500 is developed, it is actually a MMC redesigned chassis which is very similar to Asia's E500 chassis with similar placement of transmission and engine. However they just called it "E500 SuperLo" here instead of "E500 MMC Facelift" The "E500 Low Height Go-Anywhere" model were updated again as well, which the difference can be spotted between OC Transpo's 8000's and 8100's series buses, beside a different body style, the fuel tank was relocated on the OC's 8100's series which doesn't occupy as much interior space, especially on the last row of seats on the lower deck as OC's 8000's series, now the fuel tank is placed on the door side of the vehicle near the back, which helps to gain some seats back on the lower deck. Of course, these chassis adopted the MMC design which is similar to HK's newest batch too Why there is so many changes and update over years? Thank you to our height restriction here that ADL has to keep building a lower and lower bus which is a pain for them to design as there is no room to put all the stuffs in..............fuel tank, batteries, air tank, a/c duct, besides engine, transmission and a/c.............to design and build a LOW HEIGHT double decker is MUCH HARDER than regular height double decker bus
  3. Alexander Dennis

    Looks like Minnesota Valley Transit Authority (MVTA) of Minneapolis, is testing the new SuperLo Double Decker buses and have it wrapped nicely in the SuperBowl scheme for the SuperBowl shuttle, not sure if the testing is over as the schedule of the bus listed on MVTA website is only until Feb 4. http://www.swnewsmedia.com/shakopee_valley_news/news/local/minnesota-valley-transit-authority-to-use-double-decker-buses-special/article_92dae56e-a18d-5eba-93fd-69c5e2f9621c.html https://www.mvta.com/news/ride-the-double-decker-and-the-electric-bus/ not to mention they are testing a Proterra all electric bus at the same time
  4. TTC Orion VII Retirements

    wow great good to know, LUCKILY i did get some 74's last shot before they are all gone in early January when it was -20 degrees outside.................which is FINEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE and OKKKKKKKKKKK for now!
  5. TTC Orion VII Retirements

    it seems that all the 74's are done as of this moment and with only one 75's (7575) left in service, just wondering which is the last 74's being spotted in service and when was that? Thank you
  6. Welland Transit

    can't agree anymore, the new scheme is very boring comparing to the old one..................... Thx for sharing the great shots!
  7. 2017 Alexander Dennis Enviro 500 trial

    those energy absorbing bumper which extended out of the front was not street legal for some countries, which is the reason ADL has to replace them before sending them down as demonstrators, different regulations different rules across the world again, different regulations across countries, which those marker lights on top of the buses are not street legal for certain places
  8. 2017 Alexander Dennis Enviro 500 trial

    The two demos #1008 and #1009 have a very different career life from each other before they both served as demonstrators for Translink now, as follow: #1008 (SFET9K749EGN13476) pretty much stayed in North America as a demonstrator for most of its life (at least til now). It first shows up in Trans Expo 2014 show in Nigara Falls, ON and then it was on demonstration to a LOT of transit systems in North America since then, just to name a few: Feb 2015--AC Transit of Oakland, California March 2016--Western Contra Costa Transit Authority(WestCat), Pinole, California July 2016--MARTA of Atlanta, Georgia October 2016--Capital Metro of Austin, Texas October 2016--Foothill Transit, California November 2017--Toronto Transit Commission, Toronto, Ontario (never place in service) November 2017--RTC Quebec City(never place in service) #1009 (SFET9K748EGN13484) has quite a bit of history and did some "travelling" around the world. It started as an Altoona test bus down in PennState back in Oct 2014. The bus was sent back to UK (Falkirk) for full rebuilt after which I have seen a picture of it inside ADL facility at that time. The bus was then being sent to Berlin BVG of Germany in late 2015 for demonstration and lasted couple months there, before returning to UK again for some modification back to US spec. again.. After that, the bus was sent to Chile in South America for demonstration in Spring 2017, before returning to ADL North America facility in Napanee, Indiana for some modification again. Before coming up to Vancouver, it did attend the APTA expo in Atlanta back in Oct 2017 together with #1008 as a shuttle bus at the show. The noticeable difference between the two buses, besides the interior features, is the "Enviro 500" lettering rear engine cap. at the back of 1009 which 1008 is lack of.
  9. How do you compare the Dennis Darts with the Vicinity?
  10. GO Transit

    is this the demo that you saw?
  11. GO Transit

    no problem about that, that's what i thought too before that all the chassis are completely built up in UK before and shipped to Canada, guess it costs too much by doing so There is a way to identify those Guildford built chassis, check the VIN# for the first 10 or 15 buses, the one with SFGA starting are built in UK while the one starting with SFEA vin# are built by MJ in Mississauga
  12. GO Transit

    Yes only for the very first 5 chassis(not including another 5 that were completely BUILT UP with bodies in Guildford and shipped to Canada) before Vaughan's facility started production. All the chassis FRAME after the first 10 buses were actually made by MJ manufacturing in Mississauga, where they built all the body and chassis frames for Orion buses next door before. The completed chassis frame will then be shipped to Vaughan's ADL facility to install all the mechanical components like engines, transmission and axles, and then COMPLETED CHASSIS will be shipped to Napanee to put the bodies on.
  13. Barrie Transit

    Nice thx for the great shot! Have they decalled the bus before putting it in service or just running in white ghost scheme?
  14. yes there were 11 Dennis Trident being ordered but 1 was being damaged during delivery, I have seen photos of that one sitting at the back of Transbus facility(now ADL) being stripped for parts.
  15. Guelph Transit Commission

    259 was on delivery to Guelph today, around 10am at Oshawa westbound on Hwy 401