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    Canadian Transit, past and present, including what cities have or had transit, what companies and agencies operated transit, and what transit modes operated where and when. Interest spans transit buses, suburban and commuter buses, streetcars and light rail, trolley buses, subways, and commuter trains, and in fixed infrastructure like terminals, exchanges, shelters and stops.

    Also have a general interest in other modes of surface scheduled passenger transport, including Canadian and international long distance trains and buses, and ocean liners.

    I collect ephemera (maps, schedules, fare media) for any of the above.

    I belong to CPTdb, the Canadian Transit Heritage Foundation, the Manitoba Transit Heritage Assoc., the LRT Assoc., the Trolleybus Museum Co., the Canadian Railroad Historical Assoc., the Edmonton Radial Ry Soc., the Bus History Assoc., and the Toronto Transportation Soc.

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  1. I was more anticipating replacing the current suburban feeder services with the Belleville model, so not from Balmoral Station but from a fixed route service point on Portage Avenue [Grace Hospital?] to your front door in the "83 zone" (bounded by Portage, Whytewold, Saskatchewan, and Perimeter). Reverse journey would be you book a pickup on the app at your front door. You watch for the bus to arrive on your phone and the bus takes you to the transfer point where you catch the fixed-route service. The feeder bus doesn't go where it hasn't been called or sent.
  2. If I recall correctly one of the problems with the DART model was that while it worked well to take passengers from the mainline connection to their final destination, they were significantly less successful picking up passengers at their origins and taking them to the mainline transfer point. That was why the St. Norbert DART was cut back to later at night and the 91 fixed route feeder was re-introduced in the daytime and early evenings. I suppose it was some resistance to calling the bus driver to be picked up, and being told to wait up to an hour for the bus to "come back around". In the same conversation I recall Transit being surprised by the number of trips origin and destination within the dial-a-ride zone. Apparently it was useful to some parents for their kids to call Transit Tom for a ride home at night from their friend's house. [Before the pandemic] Belleville, Ontario, instituted evening dial-a-ride service using a phone app. Rides are booked on the app, and the bus is trackable on the app. The system accommodates more than one bus in the service if necessary. The back-end computer assembles the booked trips and dynamically feeds updated directions to the bus driver...
  3. These are the oldest copies I have of each of the DART route pamphlets...
  4. Lots of rumours circulating that Kasper's shutdown wasn't entirely Kasper's decision. It is alleged that creditors acted to seize assets. Hopefully an accurate story will come out eventually...
  5. When Winnipeg Transit abandoned printing system maps they largely gave up trying to keep the [pdf] map up-to-date or accurate. There just doesn't seem to be any priority left for the map. I was told, point blank, that "most people can't read a map" by one senior transit administrator. There is a kind of two dimensional dyslexia which some people have. When they look at a complex graphic such as a map they only see an indecipherable jumble of lines and shapes. I don't know how common it is but I've always surmised that the people making decisions about a Winnipeg Transit map believed their perceptions and experiences were "typical" rather than unusual.
  6. All three pictures posted are from my website! Note that the newspaper clipping photo is from a Regina Leader-Post article about transit in Yorkton.
  7. I saw that too. I think it's Ottawa 6316 / Winnipeg 980. It was never completed as a Winnipeg bus and instead was cannibalized for parts. It sat inside Fort Rouge Garage on track 36 for a long time. It was probably moved to permit asbestos remediation underway along the east side of FRG.
  8. I've always thought that whomever created the "160" page for the Book of Routes started with the "60" page and just made a few edits. Unfortunately they were not very thorough and there were several incorrect bits copied from the "60" unchanged. I believe the "60" has at least one late night trip that ends at confusion corner (or used to years ago) and that too was just left on the "160 'Pembina'" page erroneously.
  9. I've made two trips to Transit Information on Osborne Street to try and collect the new/changed route pamphlets. I was particularly interested in collecting all of them quickly since service cuts owing to the pandemic seemed inevitable. I think this may be the most extensive set of service changes in many, many years. It also appears that some mistakes have been made in preparing the new pamphlets... First, here is the change notice poster hanging in Transit Information: It lists 5 routes with schedule changes, 9 routes with route changes, and 16 new routes. There should also have been routine seasonal schedule change for route 75 but it's not listed on the poster. Here's the list of pamphlets I've gotten. Three pamphlets (marked "*") that should have been updated weren't. One pamphlet (marked "**") that probably should have been updated wasn't. It's worth noting that the 600-series route pamphlets also contain a map and frequency table for BLUE. It's also interesting that all the new routes have names as well as numbers, and some of the routes that officially lost their names about a decade ago got them back. Route 68, which was "68 Crescent" when it had a name, is now "68 Grosvenor" (which makes more sense). As with the previous "rt" pamphlets, the new BLUE feeder route pamphlets have a different date syntax (for no apparent reason). new BLUE no schedule/map pamphlet, instead an undated glossy frequency/diagram brochure sched 12 William 2012 11 18 * new 23 Broadway/William 2020 04 12 route 29 Sherbrook 2020 04 12 sched 42 Plessis Express / 92 2019 04 07 * sched 46 Transcona Express 2020 04 12 route 47 Transcona/Pembina 2020 04 12 sched 48 McMeans Express 2019 04 07 * route 60 Pembina 2020 04 12 route 65 Grant Express / 66 Grant 2020 04 12 route 68 Grosvenor 2020 04 12 route 74 Kenaston 2020 04 12 unlis 75 Crosstown East 2019 09 01 ** route 78 Waverley 2020 04 12 route 91 St. Norbert 2020 04 12 new 635 Osborne Village April 2020 new 641 Linden Woods West April 2020 new 642 Linden Woods East April 2020 new 649 Chevrier April 2020 new 650 McGillivray April 2020 new 662 Richmond April 2020 new 671 Dalhousie April 2020 new 672 Killarney April 2020 new 676 Bridgewater/River Rd April 2020 new 677 Wilkes April 2020 new 690 Industrial April 2020 new 691 Whyte Ridge April 2020 new 693 Waverley Heights April 2020 new 694 Wildwood April 2020
  10. DavidW


    Everything about Winnipeg Transit... The garage geometry, route headways, driver scheduling, and absolutely everything else strongly suggests that they chose saving ten cents over reliability, safety, courtesy, customer service, employee relations, resilience, flexibility, and/or any and every other goal known to man. It doesn't surprise me in the least that garages are so tight.
  11. The Manitoba Transit Heritage Association was very grateful to receive the restored GM "old look" from Regina. It has been repainted in Winnipeg colours and renumbered 188 (after Winnipeg's original 188, a similar GM "old look"). #188 was very popular at Winnipeg area "show and shine" cars shows last summer. The MTHA also decorated #188 for last year's Santa Claus Parade.
  12. DavidW


    It's my understanding that the bike racks increase the length of the buses which causes complications fitting them into the garages. In summer some buses can be parked outside overnight. The garages are laid out for 40-ft buses, typically several parked bumper to bumper, then a walking aisle, then several more buses, another aisle, and so on. It's so inflexible that 30 footers are usually parked with a ten-foot empty space behind them, and two artics are parked where three 40-footers would go. I am told that the XD40s (and some of the later D40LFRs) are closer to 41 feet than 40 feet long, which also causes space issues in the garage.
  13. The new City of Winnipeg Transportation Master Plan (currently in development) will almost certainly state that this kind of busway infrastructure (private road for buses with station-like stops) is too expensive for Winnipeg, and future "rapid transit" corridors will be developed more modestly, as bus-only lanes on existing streets, with curbside stops with the usual bus shelters. The Plan will be that the Southwest Transitway will be the first and last Winnipeg busway... One step forward... two steps back.
  14. First proposed in the mid 1970's, and today opened for service. Just 45ish years from conception to birth. Bravo Winnipeg! I was in high school at the beginning, and now Shoppers gives me the Seniors' Discount on Thursdays! Remarkably, it was proposed as a diesel bus busway from downtown to the University of Manitoba back in the 1970s, and in four and a half decades there's been zero technological change to the concept. Sure, the route was made longer, twistier, and avoided most of the intermediate high-use corridor along Pembina Highway, but in 40+ years the idea was never altered. No low emission or zero emission vehicles. For all the lobbying and even several politicians' attempts to replace it with light rail, Winnipeg Transit never budged. Congratulations Winnipeg! I can hear the narrator of the video of the Grand Opening... "Rapid Transit In The 1970s!" On to Transcona! (Opening Easter Sunday 2061).
  15. Since March 14th I've ridden the bus exactly once, and it was an XD60 at 8pm which carried me and three other people. We were well spread out in the bus. I boarded, sat, and exited with my hands firmly in my pockets so I wouldn't touch my face, or any hand-holds. In some other cities March monthly passes were extended to include April at no extra charge. I certainly didn't get value for the 28-day pass I bought March 2nd, and I won't be buying another period-pass for a while yet. Maybe I'll put some ecash on my peggo for emergencies. Note that Windsor, Ontario, has suspended all transit service indefinitely. Their mayor said if he was telling people no to touch playground structures he also had to stop people from touching bus interiors...
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