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    Canadian Transit, past and present, including what cities have or had transit, what companies and agencies operated transit, and what transit modes operated where and when. Interest spans transit buses, suburban and commuter buses, streetcars and light rail, trolley buses, subways, and commuter trains, and in fixed infrastructure like terminals, exchanges, shelters and stops.

    Also have a general interest in other modes of surface scheduled passenger transport, including Canadian and international long distance trains and buses, and ocean liners.

    I collect ephemera (maps, schedules, fare media) for any of the above.

    I belong to CPTdb, the Canadian Transit Heritage Foundation, the Manitoba Transit Heritage Assoc., the LRT Assoc., the Trolleybus Museum Co., the Canadian Railroad Historical Assoc., the Edmonton Radial Ry Soc., the Bus History Assoc., and the Toronto Transportation Soc.

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  1. Just observing the 2019 Folk Festival bus service. The operator this year is Tony's Team Transport. The 4pm Saturday departure from downtown was operated by a cut-away. It left at 4:04pm and there were more than 20 people left behind at the stop. Whomever decided on the capacity required and type of equipment to use did a very bad job. Since the departures are hourly it'll be a long wait for a seat on the next bus.
  2. I don't think Transit cared one way or another about other peoples' ideas. They were obviously stressed about their plans/change requests becoming known before they were a done deal (before Council approved them). Make all the suggestions you like... Transit just didn't want push back on their pending decisions. The new data openness may be a signal that things are slowly changing?
  3. It's been Winnipeg Transit's policy to try and keep service changes as secret as possible until the last possible minute. I've alway assumed they were trying to make it impossible for any public reaction to force them to back down. I was warned by someone in Transit that we (cptdb) were going to get in trouble for revealing Transit's secrets when you folks started reposting Transit change requests before Council had approved them. The official was shocked to learn the materials were public, from the City Council agenda documents posted on line.
  4. We are being told that beginning now this data will be released on a regular basis. It's a huge improvement in Transit's openness. Perhaps Transit finally calculated that actual data in public would support third-party efforts to lobby for better funding, and that would be worth whatever criticism gets directed at Winnipeg Transit themselves. It's a huge first step. Now to use the data to make the case for changes at the political levels.
  5. It's been about two months since 371 was delivered and no sign of 372 yet. I wonder if New Flyer is holding off on further deliveries until Winnipeg Transit signals they're happy with 371...
  6. I'm impressed by the transparency too. But you should know this transparency is less than 48 hours old. For the three-and-a-half decades before now Winnipeg Transit was excessively opaque about all aspects of their operations. You couldn't pry a performance statistic out of them with a crowbar!
  7. I understand it was to move the vehicle out of the dispatch-able range. It may also be to free up the number range for new deliveries some time in the next couple of years...
  8. I think the City of Winnipeg would have to think very carefully about the immediate and long term consequences of filing criminal charges against its drivers. Going that route might guarantee years of labour strife... It's my impression that the City is losing the public relations contest with the ATU. The City looks like the bad guys already. Laying criminal charges in a labour dispute would make them look like monsters.
  9. The Folk Festival service has, in recent years, been a charter operation paid for by the Folk Festival. As such I expect the Festival would solicit bids and pick the best response. I'd be curious to know if Winnipeg Transit was underbid, or if the possibility of labour action (strike or lockout or Union overtime ban) meant Transit Tom couldn't guarantee service... I wonder who else besides Winnipeg Transit can offer wheelchair accessible buses? (Or was that not a requirement?) It's my impression that the course of negotiations with ATU 1505 is largely being dictated by 510 Main Street, not 421 Osborne Street. I don't expect Winnipeg Transit management itself has much freedom of action. I do kind of agree with the general impression that Winnipeg Transit is not what it should be, and not what it used to be. From on time performance (buses are not on time 43% of the time according to just released data) to the decrepit state of bus stop signs (electronic and not) to overcrowding to network design to frequency to, well, everything else. It's like 40+ years of just scraping by and "making do" and "Robbing Peter to pay Paul" it's all collapsing slowly before our eyes.
  10. Halifax formally terminates commuter rail project... Halifax Star 19 June 2019
  11. Commuter rail project formally terminated... Halifax Star 19 June 2019
  12. The organizers of the weekly Pony Corral car shows have given the MTHA Sunday 25 August 2019 as our date. They've asked us to keep our display to four buses this time. We haven't decided which ones, but I'd guess #111 (1937 Twin 23R), #565 (1946 Ford), #188 (1954 GM), and maybe #20 (1956 WFC T36-2L). The MTHA has been quite busy so far this spring with movie/TV work. Various production companies have been looking to populate street scenes with appropriate-era traffic and nothing fills up a set quite like a bus or two. They generally apply pealable vinyl decals to mock-up the bus for someplace else (but nothing quite covers up all that bright Winnipeg orange). Bus #112 (1983 MCI MC-9) has been "Greyhounded" with vinyl decals...
  13. "Mostly". Thinking small is a civic obsession. The smaller the better. I'm sure if there wasn't commercial interests involved in the upgrade decisions we'd still have horse drawn omnibuses for transit. Of course I jest, mostly. 😊 Before construction began on phase 1 City Council passed a resolution requiring the design be convertible to light rail. Since no one set any standards for what that meant it has mostly been ignored. They should have adopted at least a set of geometry rules (maximum slopes, minimum curvatures, horizontal and vertical clearances, etc) but no one ever did. Obviously some of the corners on Phase 2 (SWT @ Markham, SWT @ South Park, Bohimer @ Stadium) are too tight for normal rail operation. Who knows if the overpasses were built to handle train weight...
  14. Last I knew operation outside the city on provincial highways requires PSV licence plates. Last I knew Winnipeg Transit licenced only about 10 buses with PSV plates (and none of the artics). With the PSV plates comes a highway safety kit including flares and (I think) a fire extinguisher.
  15. Managed to snap a picture of 371 on its apparent first day of service (Saturday 08 June 2019), in between the rain showers. And got my first ride on 371 today (Sunday 09 June 2019) on route 60 Pembina. The seating layout is different from the D60LFs. No seats on the turntable, and forward and backward facing seats on the middle wheels (instead of the aisle-facing seats there on the D60LF. The stripeless white exterior, not even a grey lower panel, seems like a new low for the Winnipeg livery. At least the side windows got black around them. (Maybe it'll be easier to paint it orange after the coming revolution!)
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