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    Canadian Transit, past and present, including what cities have or had transit, what companies and agencies operated transit, and what transit modes operated where and when. Interest spans transit buses, suburban and commuter buses, streetcars and light rail, trolley buses, subways, and commuter trains, and in fixed infrastructure like terminals, exchanges, shelters and stops.

    Also have a general interest in other modes of surface scheduled passenger transport, including Canadian and international long distance trains and buses, and ocean liners.

    I collect ephemera (maps, schedules, fare media) for any of the above.

    I belong to CPTdb, the Canadian Transit Heritage Foundation, the Manitoba Transit Heritage Assoc., the LRT Assoc., the Trolleybus Museum Co., the Canadian Railroad Historical Assoc., the Edmonton Radial Ry Soc., the Bus History Assoc., and the Toronto Transportation Soc.

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  1. Since March 14th I've ridden the bus exactly once, and it was an XD60 at 8pm which carried me and three other people. We were well spread out in the bus. I boarded, sat, and exited with my hands firmly in my pockets so I wouldn't touch my face, or any hand-holds. In some other cities March monthly passes were extended to include April at no extra charge. I certainly didn't get value for the 28-day pass I bought March 2nd, and I won't be buying another period-pass for a while yet. Maybe I'll put some ecash on my peggo for emergencies. Note that Windsor, Ontario, has suspended all transit service indefinitely. Their mayor said if he was telling people no to touch playground structures he also had to stop people from touching bus interiors...
  2. I thought the segment of The Canadian between Sioux Lookout and Winnipeg was a "remote service" for an area with little or no road access, and therefore needed to run. (I guess not...)
  3. The technology I'd like to see a pilot for small neighbourhood feeder routes is 12 to 16 seat driverless shuttles. At least a summertime trial. Imagine a fleet of electric driverless mini shuttles providing 10 minute frequency service between Aubrey loop and Arlington/Portage, connecting to the frequent eastbound and westbound Portage Avenue service. Better transit service than a 10 Wolseley that runs half hourly. It's not clear to me how close or far such technology is. There have been pilots here and there in Canada. I have questions about how navigation using cameras that follow the painted lines works after a snowfall, or how wheelchair passengers are served, and what about security for the passengers and the vehicle... Lots of interesting questions about the technology, but it may solve the problem of difficult-to-serve low demand neighbourhoods. Feeders to the Blue Line maybe?
  4. Cutaways such as Arbocs generally have short lifespans, so three or four cutaways can do what one heavy duty 40ft transit bus can do (lifespan-wise). Additionally Winnipeg Transit drivers get the same wage rate for driving a cutaway as an XD60, so no savings there. There is a savings in fuel consumption, but there's an extra cost to maintaining multiple vehicle types (in parts and training). Winnipeg Transit seems to have decided that any savings from cutaways in regular service are too small to be worth the trouble.
  5. How about #111, the MTHA's 1937 Twin Coach model 23R?😁
  6. Kasper has issues it would like to discuss about ONTC's expansion to Thunder Bay... https://www.ckdr.net/2020/02/18/kasper-transportation-seeking-answers/
  7. Perhaps the rail division might benefit from better management. The news stories (in North America) about problems with Bombardier's rail business, late deliveries and dissatisfaction with product quality, have been frequent in recent years. Frankly any supplier as incompetent as Bombardier is supposed to go out of business.
  8. Remember that Transit receives an operating subsidy every year, so an "operating surplus" wouldn't be left over cash so much as Transit needing less subsidy than budgeted. I would expect any Transit "operating surplus" in a given year would therefore go to general revenue (where the operating subsidy is coming from) to be redeployed in City spending that year or the next. It's not like there's a pile of several years worth of cash sitting around unspent. I think the problem is that Transit senior management is proud of squeezing service tighter and tighter to keep undershooting their operating budget year after year. Instead I think they should be embarrassed and ashamed by the terrible service they are delivering to the public. And not only should they be spending every budgeted dime on better service but they should be fighting for more. (This is what you get when people who wouldn't be caught dead on a bus [never mind depend on it daily] run the bus system...)
  9. Bartley's biases aside there is an overwhelming belief in Winnipeg and Manitoba that Winnipeg is very small town. The modern advances made in other cities are just not possible here. (Even though Edmonton was 450,000 in 1974 when the LRT decision was made there). The decision makers long ago decided LRT was crazy talk for Winnipeg, and it wouldn't surprise me if even busways are now being dismissed as more "crazy talk".
  10. The number of overlapping routes on Portage Avenue doesn't matter to whether or not it's an appropriate corridor for articulated buses. Transit would have to look at overloading across the whole service on the corridor, and make a determination whether or not additional capacity is appropriate. The complexity of the service pattern on Portage, with locals, expresses, and super-expresses, and buses that branch off or terminate at various points from Polo Park to St. Charles makes studying overcapacity problems significantly more multi-variable. The complexity also hides problems. Maybe they should just sweep it all away in favour of a frequent LRT on a traffic-free reservation. 😁
  11. How does the rear door open for entry? Does the driver open it? Winnipeg is a cold climate, too cold for the back door of a bus to sit open any longer than absolutely necessary. Maybe in Winnipeg a rear door a person outside at the stop can only open with their peggo card?
  12. That's an interesting development. I think that means Winnipeg is down to two intercity bus terminals... The airport for Brandin Dauphin Air Shuttle, NCN Thompson Bus, and Highway 6 Express; and 936 Sherbrook for Maple Bus Lines, Mahihkan, and now Kasper. If Rider Express (or someone else) ever opens a route to Winnipeg from Saskatchewan I hope they chose an existing Winnipeg terminal. (Rider previously announced the "Flying J" in Headingley, MB, as their "Winnipeg" terminal even though it's not in Winnipeg but as far as I know they never started running to Manitoba.)
  13. I was thinking or renaming this thread Blue Line / Southwest Transitway since it's about to enter regular service. Anyone object, or have a better title suggestion?
  14. I've been told the charging installation at the airport has been sold to Red River College...
  15. There's a lot to fix about the current service. In particular on-time performance seems to be getting worse instead of better. They seem to be concentrating on a "big picture" redesign (the Transit Master Plan) rather than putting any effort into fixing the current service. Maybe that's acknowledgement that the current service is so bad that starting over is the better path forward. I'm very sceptical about Hydrogen as a vehicle fuel. It appears to just move the carbon emissions from the tailpipe to the fuel extraction process. My basic understanding is that fuel hydrogen is often made by applying energy to break apart hydrocarbon molecules, capturing the hydrogen and exhausting the carbon. Hardly a gain for reducing carbon emissions. Even worse if the input energy is from burned fossil fuels...
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