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  1. The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    The Proterras are long gone already. It's been about a month and a half since its last run.
  2. The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    While some of the 700s are moving in for the replacement of the 300s, the Kalihi facility has acquired its next electric bus for testing. An operator friend of mine told me that it arrived just a few days ago. He took a photo of the new bus, and sure enough, it's a BYD K9. Right now, the new drivers are being conditioned for its general test drive just like they went through training with the Proterra Catalyst BE40. So far, I'm hoping for four things from the BYDs. 1. Made in the California plant. 2. Altoona inspected and certified. 3. Minimal breakdown of the electric motor. 4. Adequate charge to last throughout the day. Given the dodgy yet slightly infamous reputation of BYD in the states, I'm not going to feel too good about TheBus placing a bid on these buses at this point in time.
  3. After reading almost all of the posts here, I feel compelled to share my experience of riding the Honolulu C&C's TheBus in Hawaii. These experiences mostly span back to when I attended Honolulu Community College, and most of these occurred on the Route 1. Somewhere in the autumn of 2013 (I started community college on this year), I think I had one female bus driver make a rude comment about how I was cheap to use the bus pass I got from the cc. This was upon boarding on one of the D60LFs that she operated on and showing her the pass. I brushed it off anyways. The operator looked like she was formerly homeless. Somewhere in the spring of 2014, I boarded onto a crowded DE60LFR and sat at the near end to do some Calculus I homework. This one lady who sat at the end was super-pissed (looked like some sort of break-up in a relationship) and threw her phone down to the ground out of anger. One guy tried to pick it up for her, but she yelled at him not to. Another guy to my right tried to look back to see what the commotion was all about, and was also yelled at. I ignored all of it, but it made me slightly pissed off when I got to the cc. Thinking about it, I felt like having me and a group of people throw her out of the bus by force if she didn't behave. In the fall of 2014, I got on a DE60LF (Route 1 again) from Hawaii Kai towards home. Upon going to the back of the bus, I sensed a foul odor of feces. Turns out that an elderly man crapped himself during his travels. The smell was so strong that it engulfed the 2nd half of the bus. I moved back to the first half - just before the bellows area - and stayed there for the rest of the ride. Even to where I was sitting, the smell is able to reach a small portion of the 1st half of the area. Also in that timeline, I was on Gillig Phantom #853 that was on Route A (eastbound for UH Manoa). As the bus was nearing Ala Moana, I sensed a smell of something deathly. A young adolescent girl crapped herself as she and her mother was about to get off, and the operator had to clean it off with the tissues he had. This is the most recent instance I have with poop on the bus, and hopefully it stays that way. The spring of 2015 was where I witnessed a cop's stun gun in action for the very first time - in person. I was on DE60LF #140 on Route 1L (eastbound for Hawaii Kai) when a middle-age guy rushed himself into the bus. Operator had to get up to check if the guy had any bus passes on him. The operator had to anchor the bus at the King Street + University Avenue bus stop. Half a minute later, two officers boarded onto the bus to interrogate him. The man was emotionally distraught, and switched to three different areas of the bus. All passengers (including me) got off. The guy put up a bit of a fight, trying to get the cops off of him. He did an uppercut to one of the officers in the chin, but said officer quickly recovered. To conclude the struggle, the other officer deployed the stun gun on him while the suspect tried to flee southbound on University Avenue. Another operator that was nearby to the current operator's run was notified about the incident, and had to fill in from his regular run on Kahala Mall service as the replacement service for the Hawaii Kai run. I don't think anything in my experience can top that one off. It remains the most memorable as a flashbulb memory. One day somewhere in the fall of 2015/spring of 2016, I witnessed an aftermath of a car accident while on my way home on the Route 1 eastbound. One of the vehicles involved was a taxi. The rear of the taxi was totalled and the rear bumper looked like it was shredded off. This happened near the intersection of King Street + Isenberg Street. Lastly in the spring of 2017, I was onboard Gillig Advantage #20 on Route 414 (now discontinued) in Kapolei for the sake of getting some footage. A drunk guy had to delay the bus for a few minutes because of typical drunk behavior. The operator and some passengers had to plead him to get off, and so he did. No either incidents after that. Granted that this took place around 4:30 p.m., I think it's a bit early for him to get wasted after happy hour. I will update this post if I miss something.
  4. The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    Holiday schedule due to today being Good Friday.
  5. The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    As long as Proterra has those issues that I mentioned earlier fixed, as well has having both this and NovaBUS step up their build quality, then I'm fine with it. I haven't seen any other charging stations elsewhere on the island, so the Kalihi facility is the only likely location for charging. There are some roads here on the island that have some incline to them. If I can get a ride on the BE40, I would like to see how it performs on the H-2 Freeway, the Pali Highway, or the Likelike Highway. I would also like to see an XE40 on a test drive and make comparisons between the two in terms of ride and build quality. How much punishment can both of those take on Honolulu's condition-varied roads after a few weeks have past? It going to be interesting to find out.
  6. The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    The Spring 2018 hard-copy Newsletter I got from a friend in OTS states that the bus company is looking into Proterra, BYD, New Flyer, and possibly Gillig for battery-electric buses. While I do like to see a LFSe prototype out onto the streets, I think the company's interest with NovaBUS is drained. That ADA non-compliance with the 2010 LFS models was a dissatisfactory moment OTS had with the bus maker. The same issue may happen again with the electric ones. http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/14643314/new-city-buses-need-ada-retrofitting Speaking of ADA compliance, I'm hearing word from the same friend of mine that the Proterra Catalyst BE40 demo isn't doing so well with the elderly. According to him, there are no vertical grab bars, and the horizontal ones are too high for shorter people to reach. The only means for stable footing is limited to the grab handles on the seat frames.
  7. The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    Proterras eh? When I looked at the Division of Purchasing website, they mentioned a request of interest for 40ft battery-electric buses. I assumed that they were just going to survey the different bus builders for the bid. Didn't expect them to be on test drives. I can't wait to see how they perform on these roads.
  8. The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    The late 2013 Wikipedia article that I have as a bookmark lists the more recent Scanias as 501-595 in the historic fleet section.
  9. Maui Bus (Maui County. Hawaii)

    Did you spot MB301 anywhere on your trip?
  10. The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    For CPTDB Wiki Editor Detroit Diesel 6V92TA, this is going to be fantastic news for you. >< I am unable to see that Facebook post, but I decided to survey the North Shore area, and sure enough (near complete miss), I found it! I took a closer look and a photo of this relic from the 1980s, but I didn't bother to go closer since it is on private property and all. After 2.5 years, this is the result of what it looks like. Based on its current condition, it has seen better days. There's no specific fleet number present (no license plate and fleet number stickers). I'm not sure if it's wise to tell where the specific location is for this, so I'll just say that I found it somewhere in Kahalu'u. Later on, I made comparisons between the former 500-series Scanias and the former 800-series Scanias based on existing photos of the two. Below are the two images as examples. Fair enough, the specific unit mentioned in the Wiki is an ex-500 Scania. While comparing differences in window configurations was a no-go, the differences in head-sign design was the giveaway. The 1st batch of 1987 Scanias had them small, while the 2nd batch of 1988* Scanias had them big to accommodate for better view of the routes from afar. I can imagine that complaints were made about the head-sign size on the 87s. Also in Kahalu'u, I spotted a decommissioned Handi-Van in the same area, but it's on a different site. No pictures, sorry. *: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=TheBus_(Honolulu)&oldid=584647412#Fleet *While the CPTDB Wiki mentions the 500-series Scanias being 1985 models. This old revision of the Wikipedia article for TheBus says them being 1988 models.
  11. The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    Yeah, I'm not sure why the newer buses aren't out yet. My best guess is that they're in the garage collecting dust while waiting for furnishings. Even if that's the case for OTS to run short of buses, it makes me question on where the majority of the 1998 Gilligs went off to. I know those Phantoms aren't good for the elderly, at least they're adequate enough to fill in that quota (yeah I think I'm going to get a thrashing by Williamv for this). Plus, they still run fine. As for the 20-series Gillig shorties, only 20-23 are present in service. I'll need an opportunity to snapshot a bus builder plate to determine the year and the engine from the VINs.
  12. The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    How I see it, it's going to be around the start of next year. The rest of this year might see a period of stagnant activity in the fleet. For all I know, OTS is milking the mileage out of the old buses (even though the old Gilligs start their runs in the afternoon/evening). I almost forgot to mention that somewhere in 2018-2019, you might get some 40' battery-electric buses. Currently it's in the evaluation phase in the C&C's Division of Purchasing website.
  13. Own any bus

    For me, I always dream of owning the shorties. For my list... Gillig Phantom 30' TMC RTS-08 35' A vintage model Chance RT-52 Chance Opus 29' Gillig Spirit 29' Neoplan AN430
  14. The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    Occasional server maintenance? I'm still waiting on those pictures. How do I know that those exist even though I haven't seen them anywhere on O'ahu? In fact, has anyone else seen them running anywhere? We'd love to know.
  15. The Bus (Honolulu, HI)

    Just to chip in, 774-784 had the regular Cummins M11 coupled with the Allison B400R. Units 785-795 had the Detroit Diesel Series 50 also coupled with the Allison B400R. I'm not seeing the info for 774-784 in the retired fleet roster, probably due to a shoddy edit. Just for the sake of confirmation: https://cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php?title=Gillig_Phantom_'T_VINs'#T1087763