Unfortunately some of the last few posts are based on points where the posters clearly do not understand the facts and the implication of the points they are making.
Nothing under 10 minute service? Let me share with you routes that have 10 minutes or better weekday rush hour frequency:
19 Hurontario - 6 minutes
107 Malton Express - 8 minutes
109 Meadowvale Express - 8 minutes
110 University Express - 9 minutes
3 Bloor - 10 minutes
5 Dixie - 10 minutes
35 Eglinton - 10 minutes
42 Derry - 10 minutes
66 McLaughlin - 10 minutes
101 Dundas Express - 10 minutes
103 Hurontario Express - 10 minutes
The generally accepted standard in transit for frequent service (not having to consult a schedule) is 15 minutes or better. Using that standard the list expands even more:
51 Tomken - 12 minutes
1 Dundas - 12 minutes
11 Westwood - 11-12 minutes
23 Lakeshore - 14 minutes
6 Credit Woodlands - 15 minutes
26 Burnhamthorpe - 15 minutes
28 Confederation - 15 minutes
44 Mississauga Road - 15 minutes
45 Winston Churchill - 15 minutes
61 Mavis - 15 minutes
76 City Centre-Subway - 15 minutes
By using the GTA as your benchmark for comparison you are suggesting that even systems like Milton, Oakville, Burlington, and Durham Region offer better frequency and service levels than MiWay. Your comment that MiWay has nothing under 10 minutes is also proven wrong and you could have spared the embarrassment of being completely wrong by taking a few minutes to consult the MiWay route schedules rather than just trying to pull stuff out of thin air.
How many times has it been discussed in this thread that the Eldorados are being retired beginning at the end of the year? It's quite obvious you haven't been paying attention.
Are you suggesting buses should be taken off the road to deal with minor issues such as stickers? Are you also suggesting that buses be taken off the road for repaints which can take weeks, therefore potentially impacting the level of service provided?
MiWay has generally always replaced their buses on a 12-15 year life cycle and has performed major preventative work on their buses when and as needed, even if the bus is close to retirement. For example, you have clearly noticed all the 2003 and 2005 D40LFs with body work over the past few years. There are costs associated with operating and maintaining a fleet of buses that go beyond just potentially refurbishing buses.
In what way? Are you aware that if transit was a regional responsibility, there would be obligation to serve places like Caledon, Bolton, and the huge swaths of rural area north of Brampton meaning potentially less service being offered in both Mississauga and Brampton Peel Region does not just consist of Mississauga and Brampton after all.
This is the first problem with your 2 posts which are more general rants not necessarily supported by actual facts. You are using GO Transit as the basis for your posts about MiWay. In fact, you even admit that there is a difference between the two systems later in your post (reference to mostly highway use) which would defeat a good chunk of the arguments you attempt to put forward.
Second, your anger is misplaced and in some cases you display a selfish, arrogant attitude which is getting in your way of not only presenting facts, but also understanding and accepting facts which I will break down below.
Another person making a statement without knowing the implication of it. Just like I mentioned to FlyerLFR, by making this statement you are suggesting that systems such as Milton, Oakville, Burlington, and Durham Region offer better frequency and service levels than MiWay.
There are many examples of your selfish and arrogant attitude in these 2 excerpts taken from your last 2 posts.
Are you a transit operator with experience driving a transit bus? If no, you have no credibility to judge the driving skills of transit operators.
Second, Your comments about drivers showing no sense of urgency is both a selfish display and misplacing your anger. If drivers are driving slow, it is in most cases to maintain schedule adherence and/or maintain safe operation of the bus. By suggesting they have no urgency and driving well below the speed limits, you are making the implication that buses should sometimes operate ahead of schedule, inconveniencing other passengers and/or in a unsafe manner so "people can get where they need to go". This is a very selfish viewpoint.
Clearly you do not know much because you continue to make inaccurate assumptions. Relief drivers coming off other buses is very common, they are called 'hook ups' by the way.
Do you even know what you are suggesting? First, you acknowledge that we need every bus we can get right now, then suggest that buses should be taken out of service to be repainted. Are you aware that to to body work such as repainting to a bus could take weeks to complete, therefore removing buses from service and impacting the level of service that can be delivered?
The buses you list are not all going to be 'kicking around for another 5-6 years'. The budgeted lifespan of a MiWay 40 foot bus right now is 14-15 years while an articulated bus is budgeted for a 12 year lifespan. Most of the buses you list will be in service for less than '5-6 years'. Take note of the word budgeted, this means that the buses in question could be replaced sooner if additional capital funding is obtained for bus replacement.
Another example of your arrogant tone, you clearly show no understanding of how the process works and once again your anger is misplaced. You mention newspapers, gum stuck on the floor, people putting feet up on the seats. Who is responsible for creating those conditions? MiWay passengers. Why don't you put some of the blame on passengers who are responsible for this (as you partly acknowledge by mentioning feet on seats). A bus can be in service up to 18-20 hours per day and there are almost 500 buses in the fleet.
Yes I will question this because you clearly know very little and your arrogance still shows. There is already another express service between South Common and UTM that operates 7 days a week and takes far less than 15 minutes. It is called route 110 University Express.
You wouldn't be wasting our time if your provided some suggestions on what you would like to see improved and how. Where are your suggestions anyways, after all you suggest we should all propose ways to improve MiWay yet I don't see a single suggestion from you.
By the way, service hours refers to the total amount of service provided. 1 bus in service for 6 hours = 6 service hours. 10 buses in service on route 19 for 12 hours = 120 service hours. So yes, it does matter how many service hours are provided as it shows how much is being invested in transit. Or were you just quick to dismiss it because you think you're right and it didn't fit your narrative?
All these have been lumped together because they make the same argument without any facts to back them up. There is clearly a need for the transitway and the service provided on it yet you all embarrass yourselves by knowing nothing about what you're talking about. If you had perhaps commented about some of the infrastructure such as stations and parking lots being overbuilt you may have found some agreement but to suggest the transitway is not used because the parking lots are empty couldn't be more wrong.
While all of you try to claim the transitway is empty and not used, let's look at some facts that demonstrate how wrong you all are:
In November 2014 when the transitway opened, the frequency of the 2 main routes (107 and 109) during weekday rush hour was 12 minutes each with a combined frequency of every 6 minutes. We are almost 3 years later and currently the weekday rush hour frequency is 8 minutes for each route with a combined frequency of 4 minutes. Add in route 21 and the current combined frequency is 3.4 minutes.
In early 2018, route 100 will be introduced with 15 minute frequency which will bring the combined frequency between routes 21, 100, 107, 109 down to 2.8 minutes. And that's not accounting in any further frequency increases to the 107 and 109.
Clearly if all this service is being added there must be demand. How is the current demand on the transitway? Is all this service wasteful?
Let's take a look at some of the comments sent into the MiWayHelps twitter feed. These are comments from people who use the transitway as part of their commute, not from people who sit in armchairs behind computer screens thinking they know everything. To these riders, the transitway is certainly not empty or poorly used.
The Transitway also helps speed up travel time and provides a more comfortable experience. See below:
And the worst comment for last....
Do you even understand what you're stating here? Basically you just implied that the 905 transit systems shouldn't even bother trying to improve service because "it isn't going to change overnight" and they're "too optimistic"
Seriously, consider what you just said, and then think about it again. Essentially the 905 systems should just give up according to you. If nothing's going to change we might as well just stop being improving transit.
How about the fact that Brampton Transit and Mississauga have seen ridership growth over the past few years by investing in better transit service, introducing rapid transit and all day express routes on major corridors?
This entire post was made to counter inaccurate posts or posts that were made without any fact or knowledge behind them, but this last comment takes the cake for pulling stuff out of one's ass and trying to sound right.
When people make these types of comments they can very well expect to be called out on their comments.
Suggested reading for all to get a better understanding of MiWay: 2017 MiWay Business Plan and Budget