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  1. There was recently a update to the MiWay Five page on the website including a new proposed map and timeline for 2020 changes. 2020 Timeline - Proposed Map (February 2020) Some things to note: The proposal to terminate route 20 at Mill Road has been dropped and the route will continue to connect to Islington (and later Kipling) Station. Originally scheduled to be cancelled in October, route 90 will remain in service. Originally, the plan called for the Copenhagen section of route 90 to be abandoned and the new route 50 cover service on the Terregar portion. Route 50 will still be introduced to replace route 9 on Churchill Meadows Blvd and route 39 on Lisgar. However, it won't serve Terregar and Rosehurst like originally proposed and instead use Derry. Unfortunately, this means the 50 and 90 will just duplicate each other on Derry west of Winston Churchill and the 90 being retained is probably at the expense of a more frequent 50. Route 8 will remain on it's current route serving Mineola, Cawthra, and Mississauga Valley. The proposal to have the 8 serve Lakeshore to Cawthra and then up Cawthra to the transitway station has been dropped. The trade off is that there is still no service on Cawthra north of Bloor, and Cawthra Station will still not have connecting bus service. Also, the map shows the 8 and 14 (see below) duplicating each other on Mineola and Atwater, a very low ridership part of the system. Route 14 is still shown as extending east of Port Credit, along Mineola and Atwater, up Ogden (replacing route 5 service) and then using South Service, Dixie, and Queensway to Sherway. However, no date is listed for implementation. Route 5 is still shown as using Dixie between Lakeshore and Dixie Mall, rather than Ogden, however no date is listed for implementation. Route 51 is still shown as extending to Dixie GO, however no date is listed for implementation. Both branches of the route 1 are shown deviating to UTM and South Common before one of the two continues on to Ridgeway. No date is listed for implementation and hopefully it never happens. When the MiWay Five plan first launched 5 years ago, one of the key selling points is that it would reduce duplication and allow for more frequent service across the board by simplifying routes. The MiWay network was referred to as looking like "a plate of sphagetti" and unfortunately that's still true today because they've turned back on so many of the original proposals that the system map doesn't look all that different than what it did in 2016. The city has already started marketing "MiWay Five 2.0" the next 5 year plan from 2021-2025. Hopefully it brings about better change than the first plan has but I'm not optimistic. At least they appear to be going through with the long overdue changes to the Eglinton corridor come April 27...
  2. Setra is a part of Daimler AG and sells the S407 and S417 models in North America. Both models are produced in Germany and imported for sale. After the closure of Daimler Buses North America (DBNA) in 2012, Setra coaches were sold through MCI and later REV Group as part of a distribution rights agreement. Daimler has recently announced that they have terminated the distribution agreement with REV Group by buying out the shares in the agreement and are now selling Setra coaches directly. Daimler Coaches North America (DCNA) was recently established to handle sales. The company is based in Fort Mill, South Carolina and it appears parts distribution will be through the Daimler Trucks (Freightliner/Western Star/Detroit) distribution network. Essentially, Daimler is taking over sales directly as they did prior to 2012. Prior to 2002 - Setra of North America 2002-2012 - Setra North American sales are part of DBNA 2012-2017 - Distribution rights agreement with MCI 2018-2020 - Distribution rights agreement with REV Group 2020 - Daimler Coaches North America Daimler Coaches North America assumes responsibility for Daimler Buses touring coach business in U.S. and Canada
  3. Replacement of the 2008 D60LFRs was deferred until the delivery of new buses in 2021 in order to take advantage of federal/provincial infrastructure funding. It looks like 2021 will be a big year with over 100 buses purchased and the remaining D40LF buses as well as the 2008 D60LFR being replaced. The tender for 11 MiExpress articulated buses was awarded to New Flyer. These buses will be hybrid (XDE60) with the BAE hybrid system. At this point these 11 buses will be expansion buses to help with overcrowding on the transitway. The city requested delivery of all 11 buses by September 30 but given how long the tender took to close and award that's a tight timeframe.
  4. The Malton Garage expansion project is nearing completion. This project included the construction of a second washbay, as well as site improvements for better capacity. This allows the service capacity for Malton to increase from 75 to 100 buses. Come the January 6 service changes, Malton will receive MiExpress buses and operate several blocks on both the 104 and 107. They will require a minimum of 8 MiExpress buses for service and factoring in spares, will probably get 10 or 11 MiExpress buses. The blocks Malton will operate are: 104 (3 AM buses and 3 PM buses) - 540a-1036a, 540a-938a, 555a-953a, 203p-716p, 235p-741p, 250p-755p 107 (5 all day buses and 2 evening buses) - 504a-802p, 524a-823p, 536a-715p, 711a-851p, 740a-836p, 841p-1103p, 901p-1123p Nothing major to note for the January 6 service changes. A bunch of routes are getting earlier and later trips on Saturdays and Sundays. Some GO shuttles will have low ridership trips cut - the 32 loses the 545a and 609a trips, 49A loses the 427p trip, 64 loses the 547a and 804p trips, and 67 loses the 552a, 616a, and 627a trips.
  5. The tender for the 11 60' MiExpress buses (hybrid-electric) closed today and both New Flyer and Nova submitted bids. The bid amounts were: New Flyer - $13,837,675.22 ($1,257,970.47 per bus) Nova - $14,803,907.00 ($1,345,809.73 per bus) With the New Flyer bid being lower by almost $1 million and $88,000 per bus it is likely they will be awarded the contract.
  6. The November 27 Commission meeting included a report awarding a new 3 year contract to New Flyer for bus purchases between 2020-2022 (delivery 2021-2023). The contract will include both 40' and 60' diesel buses. Pricing for the 40' bus was $565K per bus and for the 60' bus it was $879K per bus. 16 40' replacement buses are being purchased for delivery by October 23, 2020. Given the budget issues at the city of London currently, purchase of 4 expansion buses is not recommended until the 2020 budget is confirmed. http://www.londontransit.ca/staff-report-2-contract-award-2020-2022-replacement-and-expansion-buses/
  7. There is sufficient capital funding to replace buses on a 15 year lifespan for 40' buses and 12 years for 60' buses. The 2003 buses are a exception as there was a desire to replace the Eldorados and 2008 D60s earlier than planned. There are currently no plans to extend any other buses past the 15 year span as it has proven costly with the 2003 buses - additional engine, transmission and especially frame repair which also leads to significant downtime. There are 11 60' hybrid buses being purchased for 2020 which are currently out to tender. 2021 is the first year of the proposed 3 year tender for buses that will see approximately 250 buses being purchased between 2021 and 2023. In 2021, 109 buses are being projected. See this post for more detail as well as the chart below taken from the report. A minor correction. You compared the 2018 to 2020 service hour breakdown when you probably intended to compare 2019 to 2020. That said, the breakdown of service hours by service day as listed in the budget should be taken with a grain of salt. For example, the budget lists that only 1,880 Sunday hours were to be added in 2019. Yet the most recent service changes to Sunday service on the 68, 101, and 109 add up to almost 4,500 Sunday hours. What really matters at the end of the day is the total annual hours added, which in this case is 32,600 hours and is consistent with the 2-3% annual growth we have seen for most of the 2010s. The issues in Mississauga are not just limited to the growth of additional service each year, rather how those service hours are added. It is true that service spans on weekends, and especially on Sundays leaves a lot to be desired. There is also a lot of inconsistency in service spans which appear to be a legacy of old routing. For example, route 29 which is a local route has service from 7am-1am on Sundays, a legacy of when route 13 and 48 served much of the area as well. Meanwhile, route 23 which serves Lakeshore and 3 GO Stations has service from 8am-10pm.
  8. The tender for the full size buses was awarded to New Flyer for 4 35' buses and 2 40' buses. Of note, this is only the second order for XD35 buses in Canada after Welland Transit. Grande West and Nova Bus had lower bids for the all 35' and 40' bus categories but there was a desire for a mix of 35' and 40' buses.
  9. From the November 4 Committee of Whole meeting agenda: Burlington Transit Five Year Business Plan (2020-2024) Burlington Transit On-Demand Transit Strategy Some quick things pulled from Burlington's 2020 proposed budget: Revenue service hours: proposed increase to 214,000 service hours (projected increase of 34,000 hours over 2019) Conventional replacement buses: 4 in 2020, 7 in 2021, 8 in 2022, 7 in 2023, 5 in 2024. The budget notes that 2 40ft buses will be extended from 12 to 14 years, and the ARBOC buses will be extended to 2023. Conventional expansion buses: 4 in 2020, 4 in 2021, 4 in 2022, 4 in 2023, 4 in 2024. Specialized replacement buses: 3 in 2020, 2 in 2021, 1 in 2022. Specialized expansion buses: 1 in 2020, 1 in 2021, 1 in 2022, 1 in 2024. Burlington Transit facility expansion: proposed for 2022 and 2023.
  10. It remains to be seen how the final allocation will play out with only 4 in service and a lot of drivers still to be qualified on them, one of the main limiting factors right now. At least one of the Nova hybrids (1901) was operating out of CP the first week or two. With the Nova hybrids slowly entering service more 2003 D40LFs have been removed from service. 0309, 0311, 0328, 0331, 0339 have been retired. There will be a few more retired by year end and 24 2003 D40LFs will remain in service until 2021.
  11. @Gil The 38A will no longer serve Bancroft as well but the weekend variant serving Argentia is maintained. Credit Valley Hospital has direct access from both Eglinton and Erin Mills with signalized intersections on both for access to/from the 35, 46, and 48. There's no need to provide service into the hospital and I will point out that people have been taking the 19 or 103 to Queensway, and walking to Trillium Hospital or the various medical buildings for years. There have been quite a few transit service plans in Mississauga over the years with lots of proposals that were never implemented and the MiWay Five looks like another one of those sadly. Looking at the Toronto Reference Library catologue and they list a Mississauga service plan from 1989, perhaps that's the one you were thinking of? There was also a full service plan done in 1994 but unfortunately it doesn't look like a copy of that exists anywhere. Most interesting were the proposed October 1986 service changes, which had several major changes aas part of a move to a grid system but the vast majority were never implemented, likely due to public opinion. As for Kingsbridge Garden and Copenhagen losing service, I agree that in these areas some riders will face more than a 400m walk (the standard that seems to be used). On Kingsbridge Garden it isn't that bad as most of the riders in that area will still be within ~400m to one of Hurontario, McLaughlin, or Eglinton which all have pretty frequent service. On Copenhagen it's tougher because of the road layout and since the east end of the 90 has always been very quiet off peak perhaps a solution is to keep the 90 but running peak only Meadowvale TC - Glen Erin - Copenhagen and into Meadowvale GO. Would at least provide rush hour service to the area and let the new route 50 handle the higher ridership section to the west.
  12. Orion VII BRT 1209 which had a HVAC fire last December has had repairs completed by MTB and should re enter service shortly. MiWay will be hosting information sessions for their proposed 2020 service changes between October 15-19. The proposed service changes should be posted to the website shortly. October 15: City Centre Terminal 7am-7pm October 16 Meadowvale Town Centre 2pm-7pm October 17 Westwood Square 2pm-7pm October 18 Burnhamthorpe Library 2pm-7pm October 19 Erin Mills Town Centre 10am-6pm Speaking of service changes, the October 28 service changes will include major changes to routes 38 and 68 as outlined in the MiWay Five plan as well as improved weekend service on several routes. Route 37/38/68 Route 38 will be revised to no longer serve Britannia, Silken Laumann or Bancroft and will continue north/south along Creditview. Route 68 will be extended to loop via Britannia, Bancroft and Silken Laumann replacing route 38 service in the area. Route 37 will remain as is with no changes. Route 38 frequency: Weekday: 22-24 minutes peak (unchanged), 28-30 minutes midday (from 36 minutes), every 36 minutes evening (from 45 minutes) Saturday: 22-24 minutes all day (unchanged) Sunday: 36 minutes all day (from 40 minutes) Route 68 frequency: Weekday: 25 minutes peak, 30 minutes midday and evening. Route 68/91 will continue to interline. Saturday: Approximately 50 minute service all day with frequency varying depending on trip times. No longer interlining with route 8. NEW Sunday service with approximately 50 minute frequency. Span of service 855a to 512p, first trip from CCT at 855a, last trip 424p. Weekend service changes: 8 Cawthra Saturday frequency increased to 45 minutes (from 60 minutes) due to no longer interlining with route 68. 13 Glen Erin Saturday midday frequency increased to 27 minutes (from 33 minutes) 39 Britannia Saturday midday frequency increased to 27 minutes (from 33 minutes) 101 Dundas Express: Saturday midday frequency increased to 15-16 minutes (from 20 minutes) between 11:00am-7:00pm from South Common and 12:13pm-8:00pm from Islington. Service outside these hours will remain at 20 minutes frequency. NEW Sunday service every 20 minutes from 9:40am-7:16pm. First eastbound trip from South Common 9:40am, last westbound trip from Islington at 6:30pm. With these improvements route 1 will use 40' buses on weekends. 109 Meadowvale Express: Saturday midday frequency increased to 15 minutes (from 23 minutes) between 9:30am-5:00pm from Meadowvale and 10:22am-6:08pm from Islington. Service outside these hours will remain at 23 minutes frequency. Sunday midday frequency increased to 17 minutes (from 23 minutes) between 9:15am-4:35pm from Meadowvale and 10:05am-5:29pm from Islington. Service outside these hours will remain at 23 minutes frequency.
  13. The LFS hybrids started to arrive 3 weeks ago and all were delivered by the end of August. I understand that they are targeted to be in service by the end of the month, and that there are plans for a dog and pony show to show off the new hybrid buses.
  14. Asheville, North Carolina is purchasing 4 30' Vicinity buses for Spring 2020 delivery. these buses will be purchased off a contract with Oxford, Mississippi for Vicinity buses. Grande West has also agreed to lease Asheville 5 Vicinity buses from January 2020 until the production buses arrive, likely the former Calgary buses currently leased to Oxford until their 5 Vicinity buses are delivered by the end of the year. Link to City Council report
  15. The full report from what drum118 copied and pasted from can be viewed on page 10 of the September 4 general committee agenda https://www7.mississauga.ca/documents/committees/general/2019/2019_09_04_GC_Agenda.pdf I've summarized the key points here from the report and other sources: -The 10 Nova LFS hybrids were delivered in August which will be direct replacement for 10 2003 D40LF buses. There will be 24 2003 D40LFs left in service by year end. -A tender will soon go out for 11 60' hybrid MiExpress buses. There is a high need for additional capacity on express routes and funding has been reallocated. These buses will be expansion buses and will allow for evaluation of the BAE Hybridrive in a 60' bus. -All future bus procurement is planned to be hybrid buses using BAE's HybriDrive system. MiWay is under pressure to reduce greenhouse gas emissions with the city's "climate change action plan" and the newer hybrid technology is viewed as a bridge to fully electric buses. -The MiWay fleet plan has been revised and there will be a multi-year procurement in 2020 for buses to be delivered in 2021-2023. The procurement will consist of 251 buses which is broken down into 196 40' local buses, 30 60' local buses, and 25 60' express buses. The vast majority of these buses (238) will be replacements for the existing fleet, with a small amount of 40' buses being replaced by 60' buses. As mentioned, all of these buses are proposed to be hybrids. With the revised fleet plan and the city's budgeting the fleet replacement will likely work out like this: 2021: Replace 2003 and 2005 D40LF buses, replace 2008 D60LFR buses 2022: Replace 2006 and 2007 D40LFR buses, replace 2010 D60LFR buses 2023: Replace 2008 D40LFR buses The city is hoping to take advantage of the Investing in Canada Infrastructure Program funding and this has resulted in both the 2003 D40LFs and 2008 D60LFRs being deferred to 2021 rather than the planned 2020. Going forward the aim is a 15 year lifecycle for 40' buses and a 12 year lifecycle for 60' buses. Note: The information in this post is accurate as of the time it was written and is based on multiple sources. As with any proposed plans, things can change based on budget approval, service requirements, delivery timeframes, etc.
  16. I made a trip up to Simcoe County to observe the new LINX routes, after already riding route 1 in November. It really is impressive the scale at which Simcoe County is launching the LINX service and it will be a great improvement for mobility in the region. I started by riding route 2 and 4 from Barrie to Collingwood. Route 2 was a 30' 6006 and route 4 was a 35', 7003. Route 2 and route 4 are supposed to connect in Wasaga Beach but it does not always work out. Most people I observed were transferring between the 2 routes and it should really be a thorough service from Barrie-Collingwood via Wasaga or at least interline routes 2 or 4 when they both run so people don't get stuck waiting a hour for a connection (or miss the last bus of the day!) I rode 30' 6007 and 35' 7002 on route 3 to Orillia. The route is very tightly timed with a odd 50 minute frequency and both buses were running 10-15 minutes behind schedule. Unfortunately 6007 broke down and was replaced by a Vicinity for its last trip. It was my first ride on a Enviro 200 and I did like that they have Aries seats with padding which are comftorable for the long distances and the AC worked very well. I found the 35' version rode a lot better than the 30' and in talking to 2 drivers, they both preferred the Vicinity over the Enviro 200 due to the better handling and suspension. For the VIN collectors: 6007 SFEY14127KNN37329 03/2019 7002 SFEY24124KNN37396 05/2019
  17. Charlottetown has two separate tenders out for purchasing buses. The first tender is for 6 35 or 40' diesel buses in which the city is requesting pricing for the following options. 6 35' buses 6 40' buses 4 35' buses and 2 40' buses Replacement parts for the purchased buses Provide optional pricing for electric buses The original tender document had some specs that were written practically to NFI specs (specifically axles and suspension) however a updated spreadsheet of specifications has those requirements removed. Of note, a preference for stainless steel frame is noted in the specifications. Delivery is requested before February 2021 for the first 3 buses and April 2021 for the next 3. This tender reminds me of the tender Medicine Hat put out last year requesting a combination of 35' or 40' buses, which ended up purchasing all 35' buses from Grande West as the pricing was significantly cheaper than a Xcelsior. The same dynamic could play out here especially if Grande West or ADL decide to bid with their 35' buses. The second tender is for 2 Cutaway buses with delivery requested by February 2020. From https://www.charlottetown.ca/business___development/developers/tendering_and_rfp
  18. The actual projected increase for Presto Commissiom is $1.6 million (0.3%) and for the Provincial Gas Tax impact it is $1.5 million decrease. See screenshot below from next week's budget presentation, I'm not sure how you came up with the $6 million figure for both categories.
  19. Century Transportation has been awarded a new 3 year contract to operate both Cobourg Transit and the WHEELS paratransit service. The contract will begin January 1, 2020. Century was the lowest bidder, the other 2 bidders were Tokmakjian and 947465 Ontario Limited (Voyago). While Century currently operates Cobourg Transit, the WHEELS service has been operated by BTS Network. Tender Award for the Town of Cobourg Public Transit and Wheels Services (CO-19-08 ENG)
  20. There will be some changes to Malton routes effective July 1. Route 11 will have it's branch variants (11A, 11B) eliminated and will use Dundas in both directions to/from Islington. Route 30 will have peak service added so service will run all day Monday-Saturday. The route will also be extended east to Rexdale/Islington. With this change, route 12 will be eliminated.
  21. Grande West announced a manufacturing agreement with Spartan Motors, a leading specialty vehicle manufacturer in the US. Spartan manufactures bus and truck chassis, delivery vans, motorhomes, and emergency vehicles among other things. Spartan will fully manufacture the Grande West Vicinity for the US market, including the bus frame. Grande West did have a existing agreement with Alliance Bus Group (ABG) to perform final assembly of US market Vicinity buses at their facility in Atlanta, with the frame shipped from China and all other components assembled/installed in Atlanta to meet Buy America. Grande West determined that the capacity of this facility would likely not meet their needs within the next 2 years as sales ramp up in the US. Heaving the full bus manufactured in the US allows for a better production process and reduces exposure to potential tariffs. ABG will continue to be the exclusive US distributor of the Vicinity and Grande West has hired additional sales staff to assist ABG's sales efforts in the US. There is a lot more bid activity in 2019 and there should be additional US orders in the near future. The agreement with Weichai in China will remain in place and can be used to manufacture Canadian orders as well as US Private sector orders that don't need to meet Buy America. However it does seem like the goal is to eventually have all manufacturing done by Spartan. Even though Grande West is established in the Canadian market they do see potential for future orders especially in Quebec. Grande West is close to launching a electric powered Vicinity bus, it will be developed with a 'turnkey' partner that will provide the entire electric propulsion system. Spartan Motors Secures Vehicle Assembly Contract With Grande West Transportation Group
  22. I think the evolution of ridesharing (Uber, Lyft) and the TTC Subway extension to Vaughan really put the final nails in the coffin for any service to Canada's Wonderland by transit systems outside of York Region. Even GO Transit's route 60 Wonderland bus has been discontinued as of this year. Therefore the best option transit wise seems to be GO's Highway 407 east or west bus to Highway 407 Station and transferring to YRT route 20. As for the MiWay 88, it did have a high cost of operation and aside from that, the infrequent schedule and premium fare didn't help. You almost had to plan your day around the bus schedule and even at the $10 individual, $30 family rate for a group of 4 it was a steep price, plus regular fare if they had to take MiWay to City Centre to catch the 88. Meanwhile a Uber or Lyft from most areas of Mississauga to Wonderland is in the $40-50 range and if split between 3 or 4 people works out to almost the same cost per person as taking transit did. There's no need to plan around a bus schedule, you can go when you want and it's much faster. For families with kids it also takes out the hassle of using transit completely. The TTC subway extension to Vaughan makes the transfer to YRT route 20 a lot more convenient and there's also YRT route 760 from Finch. I have always felt that having GO buses serve all transitway stations would greatly improve accessibility to GO services without riders having to go to Square One and in some cases backtracking to get there.
  23. Levis and Trois Rivieres also have Vicinity buses on order in Quebec.
  24. To correct what was posted above, the overnight service is only available on Sunday-Thursday overnights. Because of the way the driver crewing is done the overnight crews report for work beginning at 1AM Monday-Friday thus the service day actually starts at 1AM on each weekday. To the general public it is Sunday-Thursday overnight service. There is no 24 hour weekend service on any of routes 1, 3, 7, 19 so I am not sure how Transit Toronto came to that conclusion. Perhaps confusion on what the service days actually are. It is true that the schedules could be better communicated to reflect how overnight service actually runs. It may appear like a cautious foray but another way of looking at it is they took routes that already had long service spans and simply filled the small gap between with additional trips to get 24 hour service. For example, route 1 only required 4.5 hours of additional service time (1.5 hours for each of the 3 buses). If there's one thing that I would offer an opinion on, it's that they should have picked the 26 rather than the 3 given the proximity to Dundas, and the fact that the 26 would serve City Centre as well as the South Common area. As for expansion, I think route 13 would probably be a logical route to add to overnight service (north/south route connecting Clarkson, Erin Mills, Meadowvale) as well as route 23 (serves 3 GO Stations and Port Credit) and 42 (Malton, service to the industrial areas). The city is currently out to tender for a consultant to help develop the next 5 year plan 2021-2025. It is being called 'MiWay Five 2.0' The city's budget documents over the last several years have never specifically mentioned what service changes would be implemented. It's up to staff to determine how best to use the service hours that are allocated in the budget each year. Between 1999 and 2006, Mississauga Transit did report to general committee each year with a detailed plan of what service changes would be implemented in a given year, these were called 'Transplans'. In 2007 there was the Ridership Growth Strategy proposal which outlined service improvements over a 5 year plan and now we have the MiWay Five which does the same (even if they keep changing their mind as to what will actually happen!) There is no financial support being provided by outside parties. Of course, there is the possibility both riders and businesses were requesting overnight service and MiWay decided to implement some overnight service.
  25. What a unnecessarily complicated policy. The current transfers already have the ability to be issued for a 6am expiry time so there is no need to issue fully uncut transfers if they're going to be viewed as expiring at 6am. Giving out uncut transfers means people will be able to modify them easily for a free ride home afterwards as well. As another poster mentioned, the potential for conflict between drivers/passengers with these uncut transfers is another issue. I know of at least 4 others that were still around as of a few months ago: 0738 Tedwyn/Cliff (4) 0733 Tedwyn/Felina (4) 0711 Cliff/Pathfinder (4) 0202 - Indian/Kane (14) There may be others still lurking in Homelands/Credit Woodlands (old route 1 routing in the early 70s) and around Malton as some of the streets have had service since the early 70s as well. It is interesting how even today, 40+ years later there is so much inconsistency in how bus stops are replaced that newer signs are being replaced before these old wooden ones.
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