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  1. 3 hours ago, Gil said:

    With the new Amazon plant opening up in Clarkson after being rejected from setting up shop in Oakville and given how both the TTC and DRT have diverted their overnight services to serve processing centres in their jurisdictions would MiWay be considering the same?  Granted the overnight service here isn't 7 days a week, but it'd certainly help with some of the employees.

    The new processing centre is on Avonhead Rd. southwest of Royal Windsor and Southdown.  It's about a 5 minute walk from Royal Windsor and 15-20 minutes to Clarkson GO.  I don't think the 45 WINSTON CHURCHILL has quite the right criteria for overnight service.  The 13 GLEN ERIN stops short of the processing centre ending at Clarkson GO unless an overnight extension is put in.  I don't know if the site has enough room to accommodate a bus loop seeing as there isn't an easy option for an on-street loop in the area.

    If a solution can be found to serve the Clarkson facility, a route running along Erin Mills might not be a bad idea.  I don't know what or if there is a demand for overnight service in the Financial Dr. area, but the route would likely terminate at Meadowvale Town Centre.  There's the Amazon YYZ1 facility at Erin Mills and Millcreek, the Peel Paramedic centre at Thomas, Credit Valley Hospital at Eglinton, the Erin Mills Transitway station if GO's 24-hour route 40 were to stop there, Peel Police 11 Division at Dundas and then the Amazon Clarkson facility at Lakeshore/Royal Windsor.  Granted, staying along Erin Mills/Southdown doesn't serve as many residences, but it should help speed up travel times along the corridor.  I guess the tradeoff is between getting people home overnight vs. hitting potential overnight high ridership nodes.

    Ideally, an Erin Mills route would be added in conjunction with another east-west route north of the 403.  Britannia seems a likely candidate since it runs through a lot of industrial areas on the eastern half of the route.  The eventual re-routing of the western terminus to Churchill Meadows Community Centre will cut down on having to run through residential streets overnight.  Derry also fits the same criteria as Britannia.  Eglinton would likely seen as another arterial connection with Credit Valley and Canada Post's Gateway facility being the biggest overnight draws and already has service on the east side with the 7 AIRPORT.

    When is the trial period for the overnight service supposed to end?  Or was it extended in light of the pandemic skewing the ridership numbers?  Once ridership recovers, I'd be interested to see where the overnight network expands to next.

    It's important not to treat all Amazon facilities as the same. As a matter of clarification, the new Amazon facility in Clarkson is a delivery station. These delivery stations are more a "last mile" for Amazon and is where orders are routed to be shipped directly to home, Canada Post locations, Amazon lockers, pick up counters, and the like. These delivery stations do not have the same employment levels as a fulfillment centre would have; the article you linked to references an employment complement of around 100 people while a typical fulfillment centre could have at least 1,500 employees or more. Not only is the employment complement lower it is possible that shift timings are not the same as a Amazon fulfillment centre.

    It is possible if there are enough requests that earlier or late trips on the 45 Winston Churchill could be implemented; MiWay has actually been quite proactive on adding earlier and later trips to routes that receive requests especially in employment areas and this practice has continued even during the pandemic. I think given the current employment levels talking about overnight service to this facility is a non-starter.

    The overnight service as introduced in April 2019 was never intended as a pilot or trial program and ridership was not the main factor in introducing overnight service, it was more about favorable driver crewing and freeing up storage capacity at the garage. I'm not suggesting that it won't be eliminated or modified in the future especially given the current financial conditions the city finds itself in, just that it shouldn't be viewed through the normal ridership/cost recovery lens as there were other factors in the decision. However, given the financial conditions I would be surprised to see any further expansion of overnight service for the time being. Prior to the pandemic, the overnight service as defined by the trips added in April 2019 were seeing approximately 275 boardings combined across the 4 routes (1, 3, 7, 19).

     

  2. On 9/29/2021 at 4:37 PM, MiExpress said:

    My understanding is while the 50 is still part of the plans, it will not be introduced with this round of service changes and the 39 will still go to Meadowvale Town Centre.

    The 9 and 35 will serve the community centre however, route 9 will use Churchill Meadows to Erin Centre and then up Ninth Line, this routing may be temporary until route 50 is eventually introduced. Route 35 will have the 35A branch eliminated and all trips will go to the community centre.

    In addition, route 49 won't have any routing changes but service is being cut back to only operate from 10am to 8pm rather than the current 530am to 1100pm span.

    Unrelated to the Churchill Meadows changes, the 66 will finally get improved weekend service with 20-22 minute service all day on both Saturdays and Sundays. Currently only Saturday midday service has 22 minute service with 30 minute service at all other times.

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    In other news, some interesting reports for next week's committee meetings:

    MiWay 2022 and 2023 Bus Procurement, Subject to ICIP-MIS-01 Funding Approval

    Approval is being requested for the city's portion of the bus replacement program funded through 2027 through the Investing in Canada Infrastructure Fund. This will allow the 2022 and 2023 buses to be procured as soon as the ICIP funding announcement is made without any delay. The city has been waiting two years for the funding to be confirmed.

    Included in the report is a updated fleet procurement/replacement schedule. A few takeaways:

    • 2022 and 2023 will be when all the 2003-2006 D40LF/R buses are replaced. 2024 looks like the 2008 D40LFRs being replaced and then from there, a more normal replacement cycle based on 15 years for 40' buses and 12 years for 60' buses.
    • The 2010 D60LFR buses will be replaced in 2023 rather than 2022 as planned to smooth out purchases. Given the lower mileage and usage profile on these buses compared to the 40' MiExpress buses, this is not a surprising move.
    • 16 MiLocal 60' buses are being purchased for 2022 replacing 40' buses, representing an expansion of the articulated bus fleet. 8 additional 60' MiLocal buses are being purchased in 2024.
    • The total amount of buses being purchased in 2022 and 2023 is 165 buses -  127 MiLocal 40' buses, 16 MiLocal 60' buses (143 total) and 22 MiExpress 60' buses (replacing 2010 D60LFRs). In addition there are 10 MiLocal 40' Fuel Cell buses being purchased for 2023 delivery (not covered in this update)
    • Of the 169 2003-2006 D40LF/R buses, 42 have already been decommissioned with most not being officially replaced due to reduced service requirements due to COVID-19.
    • All buses purchased from now until 2027-2028 will be hybrid buses. 2028 is the target year for the city to begin purchasing exclusively zero emission buses.

    The tender for the 165 hybrid buses was posted today with a closing date of November 16, so bus procurement is in full swing:

    PRC003192
    Bid Name:  Manufacture, Supply, Delivery of (165) 2nd Generation Hybrid-Electric Low Floor Buses

    https://mississauga.bidsandtenders.ca/Module/Tenders/en/Tender/Detail/58aa7346-c1b5-4f04-844b-4da905feab24

  3. 22 minutes ago, Seashore_518203 said:

    I had a quick stop at the Kings Transit garage in New Minas today.

    I was surprised to find a 35' El Dorado EZ Rider II BRT bus (#65). I thought they only had 30' El Dorados. Buses 63 and 64 (ex-Halifax 610 and 612) were both in service today. The only change is the new fleet number and the legal lettering on the side of the bus.

    Vicinities 49 and 50 have been deplated and had their bike racks removed. I was not able to confirm if they are retired or just temporarily out of service. Bus # 49 has been painted in the all white scheme.

    Ex-Halifax 1032 is still on the property in Halifax colors. I do not know if they are planning on putting it in service or not. There is one more Halifax bus on the property. I was not able to confirm the identity but it looked like ex-1039.

    All 3 Vicinity buses have been recently retired, replaced by 3 new ENC EZ Rider II BRT 35' buses numbered 65-67. 

     

    Screenshot from the application to NSURB to amend the operating license. 

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  4. MiWay has announced some mid-board period service changes to take effect tomorrow (October 4), ahead of the October 25 service changes. A summary:

    • Additional school trips on various MiLocal routes
    • Trip time adjustments on school routes 313, 314, 315 and 321
    • Trip adjustment on route 7 (4:21am SB trip from Westwood now departs at 4:16am)
    • Trip adjustments on route 71 (7:40am and 8:42am trips from Kipling now depart 10 minutes earlier at 7:30am and 8:32am)
    • Additional articulated buses will be assigned to specific trips on routes 42 (Saturdays), 51 (weekdays), and 103 (Weekdays)
    • Route 25 frequency is reduced to 26 minutes from 13 minutes, going from 2 buses to 1 in both rush hours.
    • Route 34 weekday late evening service is eliminated with service ending at approximately 10pm instead of 1:30am. Last trip EB from Erin Mills at 9:59pm, last trip WB from City Centre at 9:25pm)
    • Route 11 has it's pre-September runtime reinstated as the new schedule that went into effect on September 6 was completely unrealistic, cutting 12 minutes of round trip time in both rush hours and 9-10 minutes during the midday. As a result buses on the route were constantly falling behind schedule all day. However the 6th rush bus that was cut due to the schedule change is not being reinstated yet which means rush hour frequency will drop from 12 to 14 minutes.

    https://www.mississauga.ca/miway-transit/announcements/service-changes-take-effect-on-monday-oct-4-2021/

     

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    Service changes take effect on Monday, Oct. 4, 2021

    MiWay will be implementing service changes on October 4 – ahead of the planned service changes on October 25 – to ensure that our on-street service continues to adapt and respond to customer needs and evolving travel patterns.

    As students returned to in-person learning and traffic volumes increased in September, MiWay remains committed to monitoring ridership levels across the transit network.

    The following service changes will launch on Monday, October 4, 2021:

    1. Adding more service where demand has increased
    Trips have been added on the following routes in response to growing demand on routes serving Mississauga secondary schools:

    • 2 Hurontario (serving Port Credit Secondary School)
    • 3 Bloor (serving Applewood Heights Secondary School)
    • 8 Cawthra (serving Cawthra Park Secondary School)
    • 13 Glen Erin (serving St. Aloysius Gonzaga and John Fraser Secondary School)
    • 23 Lakeshore (additional connecting trip servicing Port Credit Secondary School)
    • 26 Burnhamthorpe (serving Glenforest Secondary School)
    • 29 Park Royal-Homelands (serving Clarkson Secondary School)
    • 36 Colonial Ridgeway (serving Loyola Secondary School)
    • 39 Britannia (additional connecting trip)
    • 61 Mavis (serving St. Marcellinus Secondary School)

    Please check for updated schedules.

    2. More passenger carrying capacity on busy corridors
    Due to an increase in customer demand, larger articulated buses will be used to provide some trips on these routes to reduce potential overcrowding:

    • 51 Tomken (Weekday)
    • 42 Derry (Saturday)
    • 103 Hurontario Express (Weekday)

    3. Trip adjustments will be made on the following routes:

    • 7 Airport – to provide earlier weekday AM trips
    • 71 Sheridan-Subway – to provide earlier weekday AM trips
    • 313 Streetsville Secondary-Meadowvale – to align with high school dismissal times
    • 314 Rick Hansen-Creditview – to align with high school dismissal times
    • 315 Rick Hansen-City Centre – to align with high school dismissal times
    • 321 Stephen Lewis-St. Joan of Arc – to align with high school arrival and dismissal times.

    4. Service reductions to match customer demand
    Schedules will be adjusted on the routes below; these routes will continue to be monitored for changes in customer demand.

    • Route 25 Traders Loop (weekday service frequency reduction)
    • Route 34 Credit Valley (weekday evening service cancelled after 8:30pm); customers can use alternate routes 35 Eglinton, Route 9 Rathburn Thomas, or Route 61 Mavis.

    Please check for updated schedules.

    5. Other schedule adjustments

    • Route 11 – Westwood (weekday) to improve service reliability.

    Please check for updated schedules.

    Next planned service change – Monday, October 25, 2021.

     

     

     
  5. On 9/16/2021 at 11:07 PM, Gil said:

    With the Churchill Meadows Community Centre finally set to open next week, will that get the route restructuring in the Lisgar and Churchill Meadows back on track?  Pre-pandemic it was originally slated for October 2020 (see the excerpt from the 2020 Annual Service Plan below as a refresher).  Currently there is no way to directly access the new community centre by transit once it opens.  It'll require a bit of a walk from the Ninth Line and Erin Centre stop to get to.

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    At the rate things are being planned along Ninth Line (and probably better to implement once all of the road improvements are completed) it might make some sense to have a route running down it from either Meadowvale Town Centre or Lisgar GO down to the proposed terminal in the Laird/Vega area.  It doesn't make much sense for Oakville Transit to service Ninth Line from a network connectivity standpoint unless it gets extended further south along Ford Dr. into Clarkson GO.  Peak period to start and increase service as ridership builds.

    My understanding is while the 50 is still part of the plans, it will not be introduced with this round of service changes and the 39 will still go to Meadowvale Town Centre.

    The 9 and 35 will serve the community centre however, route 9 will use Churchill Meadows to Erin Centre and then up Ninth Line, this routing may be temporary until route 50 is eventually introduced. Route 35 will have the 35A branch eliminated and all trips will go to the community centre.

    In addition, route 49 won't have any routing changes but service is being cut back to only operate from 10am to 8pm rather than the current 530am to 1100pm span.

    Unrelated to the Churchill Meadows changes, the 66 will finally get improved weekend service with 20-22 minute service all day on both Saturdays and Sundays. Currently only Saturday midday service has 22 minute service with 30 minute service at all other times.

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    In other news, some interesting reports for next week's committee meetings:

    MiWay 2022 and 2023 Bus Procurement, Subject to ICIP-MIS-01 Funding Approval

    Approval is being requested for the city's portion of the bus replacement program funded through 2027 through the Investing in Canada Infrastructure Fund. This will allow the 2022 and 2023 buses to be procured as soon as the ICIP funding announcement is made without any delay. The city has been waiting two years for the funding to be confirmed.

    Included in the report is a updated fleet procurement/replacement schedule. A few takeaways:

    • 2022 and 2023 will be when all the 2003-2006 D40LF/R buses are replaced. 2024 looks like the 2008 D40LFRs being replaced and then from there, a more normal replacement cycle based on 15 years for 40' buses and 12 years for 60' buses.
    • The 2010 D60LFR buses will be replaced in 2023 rather than 2022 as planned to smooth out purchases. Given the lower mileage and usage profile on these buses compared to the 40' MiExpress buses, this is not a surprising move.
    • 16 MiLocal 60' buses are being purchased for 2022 replacing 40' buses, representing an expansion of the articulated bus fleet. 8 additional 60' MiLocal buses are being purchased in 2024.
    • The total amount of buses being purchased in 2022 and 2023 is 165 buses -  127 MiLocal 40' buses, 16 MiLocal 60' buses (143 total) and 22 MiExpress 60' buses (replacing 2010 D60LFRs). In addition there are 10 MiLocal 40' Fuel Cell buses being purchased for 2023 delivery (not covered in this update)
    • Of the 169 2003-2006 D40LF/R buses, 42 have already been decommissioned with most not being officially replaced due to reduced service requirements due to COVID-19.
    • All buses purchased from now until 2027-2028 will be hybrid buses. 2028 is the target year for the city to begin purchasing exclusively zero emission buses.

    MiWay Fare Strategy - 2022

    MiWay's 2022 fare strategy will see no increases to fares (outside the UPass program and charter rates) to encourage ridership recovery. Adult monthly passes are proposed to be reduced by $4 from $135 to $131 to provide better value for adult passholders and also to move towards similar pricing as Brampton due to the upcoming Hurontario LRT launch.

    Also, the senior $1 off peak fare will be available on PRESTO beginning in spring 2022. 

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  6. Just now, sdgta2008 said:

    That makes sense....  I wonder if 107 and 100 will be restored in September with the return of international travel.

    The 107 will be restored in September (see summary below) however the 100 will not. As part of the city's 2021 budget, the 100 and 185 will remain cancelled in 2021.

    The following changes will occur for September 6, 2021, which are mostly additional service reductions:

    2: Saturday midday service reduced to 14 minutes from 12 minutes (-1 bus)

    4: Revised routing to Sherway Gardens via Dixie, Queensway, West Mall, Evans

    6: Weekday rush hour service reduced to 25 minutes from 18 minutes (-1 bus)

    7: Saturday service between 5am-10am and 7pm-end increased to 38 minutes from 60 minutes

    17: Saturday midday service reduced to 17 minutes from 13 minutes (-1 bus)

    23: Weekday rush hour service reduced to 20 minutes from 17 minutes (-1 bus)

    45: Weekday rush hour service reduced to 17-18 minutes from 14 minutes (-2 buses). Schedule adjustments to evening trips

    57: Detour routing via Derry due to Old Derry bridge construction

    61: Additional late evening trips on weekdays. Saturday/Sunday detour routing via Derry due to Old Derry bridge construction.

    68: Sunday service eliminated

    90: Saturday service eliminated

    107: Route reinstated on weekdays only, operating all day between City Centre and Humber with 20 minutes frequency

    109: Weekday midday service reduced to 20 minutes from 15 minutes (-2 buses)

  7. 45 minutes ago, sdgta2008 said:

    Route 11 Westwood has all Mi-Express buses assigned to it (2013s).  Do they do this often...?

    The 11 has had MiExpress buses assigned regularly for most of the Summer.

    Malton has 10 MiExpress buses (1301-1310) that are normally used on the 104 and 107, but with both routes currently suspended since December, it makes sense to still use the buses elsewhere rather than have them sitting in the garage collecting dust. There are also a number of Malton's 2006 local buses (0601-0653) either decommissioned or having to undergo major structural work which takes the bus out of service for 1-2 months.

     

     

  8. Joint federal, provincial and municipal funding through the Investing in Canada plan will support seven public transit projects in the City of Hamilton.

    The Government of Canada is investing over $201.8 million in these projects through the Public Transit Infrastructure Stream (PTIS) of the Investing in Canada infrastructure program, and the Government of Ontario is providing more than $168.2 million.

    Project information

    Project Name

    Project Description

    Federal Funding

    Provincial Funding

    Municipal Funding

    Replacement of Birch Avenue Bridge and Associated Road Work /Construction of Salt Management Facility

    Replacement of a rail bridge, the completion of associated road work, and the construction of a salt management facility. This includes the replacement of Birch Avenue bridge, the reconstruction of 800 metres of road, the installation of a storm water pump station and applicable pipe reconfiguration to manage road drainage, the installation of  approximately 97 metres of the water main, and the construction of a salt management facility.

    $15,986,000

    $13,320,335

    $10,658,666

    Dispatching and AVL Hardware and Software Replacement

    Installation of new dispatch and automatic vehicle location systems on buses in the transit fleet to provide automated real-time detour and service interruption information to transit users.

    $3,600,000

    $2,999,700

    $2,400,300

    Expansion of Transit Fleet to Support Service Growth

    Purchase of up to 85 forty-foot Compressed Natural Gas (CNG) buses, which will enable the City of Hamilton to expand its fleet and increase public transit service by an additional 300,000 service hours by 2026, in accordance with the city's 10-Year Transit Strategy.

    $29,333,600

    $24,442,222

    $19,558,178

    Construction of Active Transportation Connections

    Construction of an approximately 185 m active transportation bridge, 1.4 km of new bike paths, 420m of upgraded bike paths, 3.4 km of new multi-use connections to transit, and up to 500 new bike parking spaces (including sheltered and long-term secure parking). The project also includes 30 new bike-share stations, repairs to existing damaged bike-share stations, and approximately 17.8km of new sidewalks.

    $3,920,000

    $3,266,340

    $2,613,660

    Implement Priority Bus Measures along A-Line Corridor

    Implementation of priority bus movement on the 16 km-long A-Line rapid transit route. Work includes the construction of five new queue jump lanes, the implementation of transit signal priority measures at approximately 26 intersections, improvements to approximately 19 transit stops along the corridor, and approximately 17 km of new sidewalk construction along 12 different segments of rapid transit roadway to provide improved active transportation connection options to public transit users.

    $3,400,000

    $2,833,050

    $2,266,950

    Replacement of Transit Fleet

    Replacement of conventional buses in the Hamilton transit fleet. This involves the procurement of approximately 92 Compressed Natural Gas (CNG) buses to replace buses that have reached the end of their lifecycle. This will include 40' buses (approximately 72) and 60' buses (approximately 20).

    $45,630,800

    $38,021,864

    $30,424,336

    New Maintenance & Storage Facility

    Construction of a new 60,000 square metre public transit maintenance and storage facility. The facility will include a 30 bus maintenance area, two indoor compressed natural gas fueling lanes, 2 bus wash rack systems,  storage for 200 conventional size buses, approximately 4,000 sq. m of administration space, and a four-level parking structure to accommodate approximately 400 parking spaces for employees.

    $100,000,000

    $83,325,000

    $80,970,000

     
    Note that the Investing in Canada Infrastructure Program allows projects to be completed up to March 21, 2027, so these funds will be spent over the next 6 years, not immediately.
     
    Also, for the item "Replacement of Transit Fleet", the total funding amount of $114 million is correct as per Hamilton's original ICIP funding request. However the number of buses being purchased is incorrect as the request was for 146 replacement buses totaling $114 million between now and 2027.
  9. 4 hours ago, G.A said:

    Has anyone in Ontario ordered any 35 foot Enviro200s for this year? I spotted a brand new plain white unit at MTB.

    Leamington Transit has 2 on order for this year.

  10. Woodstock has ordered 2 Nova LFS to be delivered in Summer 2022: 

    Transit Expansion Bus Purchase Tender Award

    In addition preparations are being made to move to a 7 route system beginning Monday, August 30, 2021. A recent tender for bus stop installations included a map of the new 7 route system and proposed schedule. Route 7 will stop on-street on Dundas Street at the downtown terminal.

     

    Map of Proposed Bus Routes (1).pdf Bus Route Information (1).pdf

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  11. Route 6 (Orillia to Midland) will begin operation on Tuesday, August 2, 2021. Service for the first month of this route will be free with fares charged beginning in September 2021.

    No mention on whether the 4 Vicinity buses (3 30', 1 35') on order have been received however there was a interesting note about the county needing to consider the possibility of establishing their own bus storage facilities as the contractor facilities (First student) are nearing capacity and there are challenges finding suitable indoor storage space.

    Subject: County of Simcoe Transit – Status Update

  12. According to a report going to Mississauga council next week, MiWay and TTC are moving forward on a project to integrate service and fares within Etobicoke.

    The proposed project will see restrictions on MiWay buses within Etobicoke removed and MiWay will be allowed to pick up and discharge passengers, as well as collect fares. With changes to fare policy and PRESTO software changes, cross-boundary service integration (including to and from the subway system) will be possible.

    The first phase will consist of the Dundas, Bloor and Burnhamthorpe corridors, with a pilot phase being conducted starting in Fall 2021. MiWay's route 76 will be re-routed along Burnhamthorpe east to Islington Station and then to Kipling Terminal. With this change, routes 26 and 76 will provide all service on Burnhamthorpe within Etobicoke and TTC route 50 will be eliminated.

    MiWay will add 2 peak buses on route 76 to add capacity.

    In the future, service on Bloor Street within Etobicoke is proposed to be assumed fully by MiWay routes 3 Bloor and a re-routing of 20 Rathburn via Mill Road, allowing for TTC route 49 to be eliminated. 

    Service on Dundas in Etobicoke will also be integrated in the future with MiWay buses picking up and discharging passengers, but no removal of TTC service is proposed on this stretch.

    Report: https://pub-mississauga.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?DocumentId=13040&fbclid=IwAR3bm5nMb3wM_6DwxcmxIFD0xKruKBpSDGrOuQXq5ItSUeetPuJ2V2z4cyI

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  13. 2 hours ago, RailBus63 said:

    Given that both TTC and OC Transpo have also retired their Orion NG hybrids early, it does seem that there may have been an issue with the lithium-ion batteries in those buses.

    Many of the systems operating the 'legacy' (pre 2010/11) BAE hybrids have been having to deal with a large amount of component failures aside from the batteries - electric motor, generator, PCS. 

    Some systems such as Houston Metro purchase extended warranties/service contracts to try and help mitigate the costs but it's still a significant cost. PDF with some background info here: http://ridemetro.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=5&clip_id=957&meta_id=14389

    Even battery replacement alone at 10-12 years can make it uneconomical given all the additional work buses tend to require at that age, hybrid or not. 

  14. Having a look through the Phantom VIN pages and my personal view is that those will need to be done by serial number as well as there are lots of cases of things not being in any apparent order (especially as you get later into the model years) and we will end up with the same issue we ran into with testing the Gillig LF VINs pages by model year. It will also ensure consistency between all the Gillig pages.

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  15. Fort Erie will be transitioning from fixed route service to a fully on demand service effective October 1, 2021.

    As part of the transition a new transit service contract was required. The successful bidder was 1699225 Ontario Inc. (Regional Limousine) based in Fort Erie.

    On-Demand service will operate from 6am to 9pm Monday to Saturday, and Pantonium's app software will be used for booking. The fleet will consist of 6 Dodge Caravans with 4 in service and 2 as spare.

    The last day of fixed route service with the full size buses under Tokmakjian will be September 30, 2021.

    https://forterie.civicweb.net/FileStorage/98D82E44507443F896A748D052480A04-IS-21-2021 - On-Demand Transit RFP Award.pdf

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  16. Before the idea of still doing Gilligs by model year came about, I had been working offline on converting the page formats to a format based on serial range. To be honest I thought there was better consensus on going in that direction but after reading through this thread it doesn't look like much of a consensus developed. 

    If we do indeed move ahead with going with the Gillig VIN pages based on serials, I've already done 1070000-1079999 (35-40ft low floor) and was starting on 1090000 (29ft low floor) so I can handle getting those series up on the wiki easily sometime this week/by this weekend.

    I do agree that having the pages just set up that all serials in the same blocks of 10,000 are on the same page as it will make linking easier to do, however perhaps the tables themselves should be broken into blocks of 1,000 (not separate pages, just blocks the same as you would separate a active and  retired roster) as it will make the pages easy to edit and avoid really long tables. 

  17. Recently, there has been initiative to convert the Gillig VIN pages into the new format, as shown by the New Flyer, Nova and Eldorado pages.

    In previous discussions in this thread, the issue of Gillig's serial sequence was bought up. In short, Gillig does not assign their serials in any sequential order which makes having their VIN pages by model year is extremely difficult. However, there wasn't much consensus on what path to take with the Gillig page, whether it be by model year or serial range.

    Recently the Gillig 2020 VIN page was converted based on maintaining the model year format, with the 2019 page also being converted in this manner. Given that I also started working on the 2010 model year page based on this format. 

    Given the results of how the 2019 and 2020 Gillig VIN pages now look, as well as my experience trying to apply this format to the 2010 Gillig VIN page, I strongly believe that having the Gillig VIN pages by serial number range is the only effective way to have these pages. With the way Gillig serials are assigned, the end results of maintaining the model year format makes the Gillig VIN pages look broken up, take far too long to edit and based on my experience trying to edit the 2010 model year page, lead to a unaesthetic page.

    For example, here is the 2020 Gillig VIN page: https://cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php/Gillig_Low_Floor_'L_VINs'

    As one can see, due to Gillig not assigning serials in any particular sequence relative to model year, the page looks terrible and based on my unfinished version of the 2010 Gillig VIN page using this format, it will look even worse with all the links added in to the other model year pages when necessary.

    Given those concerns, I feel that having the Gillig VIN pages by serial year is the way to go, and I am posting so my thoughts are known and hopefully some consensus can be reached. In talking to some other editors, after seeing the results of trying Gillig VIN pages by sticking to the model year format, they agree that going by serial number range is likely better. Points that would need to be discussed include how exactly to title the pages and how to go in increments - 1000, 5000, or just put each of the serial sequences on their own pages (also keeping in mind the 29' models have their own serial sequence).

  18. According to a report on next weeks council agenda, Orangeville Transit is proposing to transition to a hybrid model of fixed routes and on demand service, using existing town buses. Two fixed routes will operate, in addition to an on-demand service. Orangeville has long planned to expand from three to four routes to cover new developments within the town, however the report indicates procuring additional buses will take 12-14 months and are proposing this service model as a way to quickly increase coverage without a need for additional buses. Although it is indicated as a 'pilot' project, given the success of on-demand service in other towns/cities it would not surprise me to see it become permanent and even expanded. 

    https://pub-orangeville.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?DocumentId=2218

    Also, it looks like design and construction on the long delayed transit terminal will finally go ahead. The proposed location is the Edelbrock Centre which is loacted off Centre Street, south of Broadway.

    https://pub-orangeville.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?DocumentId=2228

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