I'am very surprised that with the introduction of the Low Floor bus.That there is still a lot of Gillig fans. I thought all the models up to the Phantoms were Gilligs best. The Low Floors are just plain garbage. The suspension sucks,the seating sucks,drivers area is somewhat ok,but needs major improvements.The whole bus needs a total make over. The only reason the BRT style came out is because they copied off the Van Hools was getting back in 2003 in hoping AC Transit would probably get them,and look they got Gillig's now but not with the BRT front. The only good thing I would compliment Gillig on with the Low Floor is that you don't have to down size on the tires.